Elisheva Free wrote:

I can't write in a character without knowing all their "why"s and once I start on the "why", my imagination takes over and before I know it, there's a whole plot centered around them.

Well, near the end of =Perelandra= (book before =That Hideous Strength=) there is a chapter on The Great Dance.  Read that chapter.  It's very relevant to your 'threads in the tapestry' dilemma.

To the latter point, I agree.

Your story pace is measured.  Some will find it a bit slow, but I would be careful about cutting too much.  You could be a little more economical with words, but not with events and setting that the words make up.

I'm the opposite.

K's Formula of Threes lends itself to a certain pacing.  It doesn't seem to lend itself to the accumulation of different influences, or to multifaceted relationships, or to the sort of slow build that you've been doing.  In other words, it's likely to shape your style.  If your build is too leisurely for you taste, K's approach may speed it so much that you'll lose the color and flavor that makes your story and your telling special.

Sorry, K.

Your stories have a style very different from Elisheva's, or Amy's--or mine.

Not everything in someone's life is relevant to that life's greater meaning, or to any one story about the person.  You can, for instance, write good accounts and analyses of U.S.Grant's life without ever noting that his one ambition in life--never achieved--was to teach mathematics.  Yet the man as a whole is incomplete without that.  (Before The War Between the States, Harvard and Yale turned to West Point grads for their math faculties.)

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Some other news.

My legs are improving a bit faster than I expected.  I'm going to have to be careful not to overextend things like last time.  I also need to buy some elastic exercise bands because there are muscles that have to be stronger than walking alone will soon get them, muscles that have to be strong enough to deal with sudden overload--notably the muscles that keep the ankles from rolling inward.  (Supinating?)  I'm also making a point of getting more protein in my diet.

If I have reason for a multi-day drive, I'll probably be ready by late July.

I just did a quick pass through Self Editing for Fiction Writers, which I bought based on a recommendation from Sarah Hoyt at Mad Genius.  Most of what's in there you could learn on this site, but they have high standards.  Amy, you won't like this: they say ixnay on 'answered', 'asked', 'replied', etc.  Their advice is to treat 'said' as punctuation.  They also say about what I say on participles and 'as' representing true simultaneity ((grin)).

Hoyt's recommendation is to put the MS down for a couple of weeks, then pick it up along with the book.  Those of us who are swimming upstream on one MS probably won't want to do that.

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Merran and Jamen have spent a day (and a night) with Maurand's very extended household.  They will leave on the morning of Day Seven (and Merran will get her first lesson driving horses--which will help Momma to realize that she over-sheltered her daughter).  In between I've got far too much material.  Even trimmed, I think Days 2 through Six will need two chapters.  I've got to set some character stuff up.  I think the not-quite-outline will take me into Sunday, and then I can finally start on a preliminary version of Day 2, and maybe Day 3.

=The Master is Dying= is a solid title.  It's not super-inspired, but at the head of a good list it will do just fine.

Put the Post-Its on the dragon.  Just make sure it stands still. smile

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Find it on GooGroups wrote:

``May we come in?'' said Officer Fiona.

``Of course,'' said Freylinghausen Minkminder, stepping back from the doorway.  His knees were at different heights, too.  ``Would you like to go upstairs?''

``Actually, I'd like to talk a little first.''

``Ah.  Have we been introduced?''  He said this as he slipped in front of the Old Man.

``No, son, I don't think we have.  You are?''

``I ... why, I am Freylinghausen Augustus Polycroneus Minkminder.  And you?''

The Old Man looked down on Freylinghuasen Augustus Polycroneus Minkminder.  It's a good trick, because Minkminder was at least three inches taller than him.  Someday I'll get him to tell me how he does it.  ``I'm the Old Man.''

``Well, yes.  You are.''  Minkminder looked defeated.  He stepped aside.  ``Shall we sit down?''  He waved us into the living room.

``I was wonderin' when you were going to get to that,'' said the Old Man, taking the chair that was obviously Minkminder's own.  Minkminder grabbed his second choice before Fiona could sit down in it.

Math is about patterns. Patterns are the only thing that all its branches and twigs have in common: grade school arithmetic and theory of computation, set theory and Euclidean Geometry, calculus and number theory, Cantor transfinites and game theory.

Oh, and I have used sticky notes and will surely do so again, on ledger paper folded to extend nortebook pages.

I have a broad roadmap for the extended story and I'm fitting bits in as I go, with dozens of little notes about possibilities and Very Nice Desirable Ideas.  I don't have a full roadmap on B2 now because I'm trying to to get part of Merran's storyline out of my head before I loose it.  It's taking forever because I've got a few chapters that have to be very closely written with plot and character, and this is my first time, so I'm putting bits down and arranging them into a coherent storyline chapter by chapter.  It's hard to get started, but once I'm started four hours flies by like nothing at all, and what I've laid out is good for maybe 1800 to 2400  words.

My story, in case you've not noticed, is built around themes, so I need to plan adventures and story (and character) arcs with those in mind.  If I get these next five to eight chapters right, Pausonallie will have a major ... and unpleasant ... learning experience.  Merran and Jamen will learn, too.

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I've had a troublesome mobility problem for the last few weeks, and it will take at least six or eight to resolve it, and probably more to resolve it completely.

Why does this matter?

I work best away from home, but right now I cannot carry my heavy computer-and-writing bags, or the other impedimentia that I find helpful.  So I'm working away from home with paper, pen(cil), and a smartphone on which a serious review is a Sisyphean task.

I'll do a couple of particularly well-owed reviews tonight, but I'll be catching up for a while, one or two at a time.

rhiannon wrote:

I was over-using bosoms, so I used a number of archaic synoyms, like 'centers," and thought 'milk-givers,' would fit the culture.  And right.  The plural is for breasts, the singular is for the chest.

Strunk and White have bad things to say about synonymaphilia/synonymamania.

Thank you.

We managed to run the previous thread way off topic.  It's fun, but it destroys the value of the thread for reference.  I'm opening this one ...

... with a link to a wide ranging comparison between Ingram's self-publishing platform and Amazon's CreateSpace (second of two linked articles).  Even if you don't want to go down that road, the economics may be useful.

Okay, this thread has been sidetracked and run, like the train in Fleming's Diamond's Are Forever, into a colliery.  I'm starting a new one.

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My next chapter (I hope it's just one!) has to bridge several days and get Merran and Jamen moving again, bridging into a new ensemble that will lead Merran to stand on the wrong side of a conflict--and move her into a really ugly situation.  (At least I hope it will be.)

Current thinking is that Momma/Kirsey are reunited with daughter after the Book 3 cliffhanger, as Merran is trying to return from The Observatory.

I've got a lot to do first.

It's only legal because of a Depression-Era Amendment to the Constitution.  Blame the Big-Government movement.  (Big back then meant a quarter-horse, not a pod of sperm whales.)

"Ameriica has no native criminal class except Congress." ---Mark Twain

And if businesses did their accounting the way governments do (including pension contributions) their owners/executives would do serious jail time.

You understand why some people would like to rip the whole thing down and replace it.  It has metastatized (did I spell tha tight, Amy?)  We spend several =BILLION= a year in payments and time just to complete the forms.  We could buy off half of Congress for that.

Behira's own Standard?

I thought I saw 'milk-givers'.

So long as you use plural for one individual, attention will go to the pair.  Use singular, and attention will go to the pectoral region.

'emblem' instead of 'stanchion'?  Or did you mean 'Standard'?

Unless you want the lurid (and possibly titillating) image, you might make 'breasts' into the singular, to move attention from the organs to the area.