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No, it's not.  And this is in my smartphone.  Browsers on the flaptop have the same slowdown-to-stop, and other web pages still get through, as on the smartphone, but the flaptop doesn't have 3G or 4G.

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Sol, would you ask your network gurus if TNBW uses jumbo frames, and if it knows when to back off and not use them?  I sometime use a wifi network that stops delivering a page in the  middle at certain times of the day, when 4G gets them through.  Other pages come across fine on wifi, so it's some interaction between tNBW and the network and jumbo frames (I know, they have a newer name) come to mind because if they are broken into small frames along the way, congestion control just kills the flow.   Sorry, I don't remember the RFCs, and they would be obsolete if I did.

Okay, here goes.  I'm going to go back to the Chapter 3 scene with Mayor Nolathreal and Tern, because it is vivid and memorable.  Hold that in your mind.

It is a principle taught to instructors that you Tell Them What You Are Going To Tell Them, then you Tell Them, then you Tell Them What You've Told Them.  The magician's version is that you Tell Them That You Are Going To Amaze Them, then you Amaze Them, then you Tell Them That You've Amazed Them.

This doesn't work for storytelling, except in very limited cases and ways, and it is more and more frowned upon.  The reflective preludes and prologues that novelists wrote before the 1930s are long out of fashion.  (In fairness, the best writers could still do it, and don't need to.  The others probably never should have done it.  Hindsight is a bear.)

The analysis that follows has come to me over the last few months, so it's far from settled dogma.

When we write a story, we're not simply telling a story.  We're writing a story that engages the reader by telling the story that we really mean to tell.  Hence "Show, don't tell," which means to stay in that outer-story frame.  (It can be applied too far.  Some things are better told by the narrator, except possibly in Russian novels.)  There's another level: the story that the reader takes away from the story, which is where the theme and thesis business comes in.

Here's the harsh criticism.  In this framework, I would say that you aren't telling a story that tells a story.  You're telling us a story about a story that's telling a story.  You're showing and telling, and providing a commentary on the process.

By way of example, let me take a section from that confrontation between Nolathreal and Tern, with Talmas the thing at stake:

Tern showed only a face of calm towards the Mayor. He had earlier been dismayed at the loss of his valuable magical construct. The sense of victory, now in his grasp, did much to calm him. Within himself, Tern silently cackled. If this chief of peasants were foolish enough to accompany him to the royal court, it was certain Cardakas would be in need of a new mayor, he thought. They would be continuing this contest at the royal court within his center of power.  He had no doubts at all who would come out on top as the winner.

Let's take this much.

Tern showed only a face of calm towards the Mayor.  If you wrote "Tern's expression was steady," or "Tern faced the mayor with a calm superiority," you would be showing us what Tern is doing.  But you're telling us that Tern is putting the expression on, as well as what the expression is.

The modern reader expects to be trusted to draw that conclusion, or miss it, in order that the events flow at a speed that feels lifelike.

The Mayor sighed heavily and looked over at a now visibly shaken Talmas.

When you tell us that Talmas is "now visibly" shaken, you open the possibility that you might talk about another time--in other words, you remind us of the distance between the narrator-recounting and the events-recounted.  And unless we're in Talmas's PoV or maintaining a true omniscient PoV, we won't see anything that our PoV doesn't show us.  Telling us that Talmas is "visibly" shaken opens the possibily that you would tell us something not visible, again reminding us that the narrator chooses to tell us this but might have chosen to tell us something else.  You're showing the narrator telling, rather than using the narrator to show.

Walking a short distance away to one side of the road, the Mayor beckoned to Tern to join him with a raised hand.

Okay, this is a different issue.  You have two verbs here, one in the predicate ('beckoned') and one in a participle clause ('walking').  Both are gravid with modifiers.  You're painting the scene in exquisite detail, and sometimes that's called for.  (C. S. Lewis's Perelandra, the chapters detailing Ransom's arrival up to the meeting with the Queen.)  But when you do that, you slow the action; you pay a price.  What are you buying with that payment?  (Lewis immersed the reader in Ransom's experience and showed us the nascent world, in ways that would pay back later thematically.  We discovered the world through Ransom's eyes, fingers, skin, and ears.)

What if we had instead

The Mayor stepped to the edge of the road and waved Tern over to join him.'  -- ?

You have twenty-four words.  I have sixteen.  I trust the reader to interpret 'stepped' as 'walked a short distance', and 'the edge' as 'one side of'.  The latter change doesn't quite match the meanings perfectly, but I suspect you mean 'near the edge' rather than 'on one side of the centerline'.  Likewise 'waved' for 'beckoned with a raised hand'.

Vigorous writing is concise, and when conciseness is achieved by well-chosen verbs it can be more exact and more evocative, even if only by keeping the reader in the moment.

And that too hides the seam between the narrator-recalling and the event-recalled, because the reader does less work with a single verb than with a verb heavily modified.

I also chose two coordinate, conjunction-joined predicates on the subject, rather than making one of the actions a participle phrase.  It's hard to express why I chose that; the nearest I can say is that they actions seem balanced in their weight, both in words and in importance.  It cost me a word, but I saved nine by choosing more exact verbs.

Filled with anticipation, he walked over to that side of the road thinking perhaps the Mayor wanted to make a deal or was about to admit defeat. He likely did not want the boy to hear in an attempt to stave off damage to his reputation. Any deal that the mayor was willing to offer was going to be rejected, as Tern had already decided nothing he heard would sway him from prey.

Tern approached the Mayor, hoping that Nolathreal would admit defeat or try offering a deal, out of the boy's hearing.  Tern had no intention of accepting.  Talmas was his.

Compare "Filled with anticipation ... hoping" with "expecting".  In the first, the narrator spells out affect and cause.  In the second, the narrator gives us a verb, 'hoping (that)' which covers the link from cause to affect.  (Yes, Affect, not Effect; the Affect here is an effect.)

"Talmas was his" gives us Tern's planned outcome without explicitly repeating the predator-prey relationship.  It can reinforce the relationship, and it expresses Tern's certainty, justifying (in his inner logic) his attitude toward the offer he expects from Nolathreal.

And because these connections are implicit in the statements, and especially in the verbs chosen, the reader does not have to paint-by-numbers in the outlines provided by the narrator.  The narrator disappears, and the reader has the story the narrator presents, rather than the (story of the) narrator presenting a story.


I've labored and belabored here, and I'm sure that reading this has been rough, since it goes to the way the story flows from you.  But I think it explains most of why your narrative is sluggish in spite of good action, fair-to-strong character writing, and a vivid and imaginative world filled with terrific power moments.

I hope it helps you.

KH is known for a willingness to kill off characters.  He and his readers like that.  But it's far from universal.  In particular, his approach precludes any kind of ensemble story, any story that is bigger than a single character.

As to Tolkien and all that 'extra' story: Orson Scott Card explains this in one of his (Writers Digest?) books.  MICE--Milieu, Idea, Character, and Event are the four kinds of story 'cores'.  LoTR is a Milieu story, and it doesn't end until the last denizen of the Third Age dies or leaves Middle-Earth.

I've got a harsher take of my own for you, but I want to think about it and be sure I'm saying just what is necessary and correct. I'll try to do it this afternoon.

The virtue of doing short stories is that you're forced to work economically, so you develop that skill.  You're forced to begin, develop, and end a story all in arm's reach, and you deal with problems in the small so you learn to identify them and deal with them on the small scale before going onto the large scale.

Don't worry about the number of chapters or word count.  Your genre is more flexible than most.  Worry instead about the story on its own terms: on how it pulls the reader, on how the reader can grasp the characters and scenes and connections, how the large plot unfolds from the series of power moments.

Incidentally, have you considered taking time off to join the MF/M group and enter the Power Moment contest?  You have lots of inventive power moments; your difficulty will be the 1000 word short-short limit.  But in the ten days left you might be able to get a very nice entry in.  (Of the seven entries as of a few moments ago, I'd say four of them are in the running.)

Edit:  I'm thinking of Mayor Nolathreal's little duel with Tern on the road.  The contest wants a new submission, but except for that the Nolathreal/Tern conflict would have been a perfect episode to submit.  I don't know how much tightening it would need to fit the 1000 words, but it would still have been recognizable.  If you can equal or better that scene in 1000 words, you have a very good chance to win.  (Says someone who thinks his own entry is still one of the best.)

And it can be a scene you plan to use in a future chapter.  That's encouraged, actually.

I'm wrangling now with a chapter of dialogue that has to reveal background and create a drastic character realignment.

I have a number of far-ahead chapters that serve as studies and point to reach for.  Feel free to reach forward for those.  They're in both books of the story.  Then anything after the chapter now numbered 9 is fair game.  I knw already that the chapters involving Merran's training need rework, but reviews are still welcome.

A further thought on the tapestry here.  One way to handle too much story is to take some out.  Another way is to fit it in properly, so that it carries the reader rather than burdening the reader.

Smoothing the flow within paragraphs and from paragraph to paragraph will help considerably.

Organing the paragraphs to carry the flow will help.  Arranging them so there are natural scene breaks will help as well.  Sometimes a scene break occurs not because the place changes or the ensemble changes, but because the action or the jeopardy changes with the same ensemble and place.

Finally, there is the question of tension and release, movement and rest.  I used David Bellavia's House to House as my example.  It's a battle history, and that's not to everyone's taste.  Staff Sgt. Bellavia brought the history and his co-author, I suspect, brought the pacing and structure, which are symphonic in their alternation of rising tension and release.  If you don't mind the read and you can give it the time, this might be a useful exemplar.

House to House is a very skillful example, and it will take time to learn that skill.  (I don't have it yet.)  But your story could make good use of it, even if you don't achieve instant mastery.

Actually, we'v been talking about it the story complexity, mostly in reviews.  I think making the text more economical and smoother flowing would go a long way here, but your other points are well taken.  This is an ensemble story, though, so it's important to make the characters distinctive, including in how they play against each other.

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I just made a small edit in Battle with Cott and the Beaast.  It's in the final approach to the climax.  It took one of my two remaining words, but I think it adds a little more Zing.

Incidentally, a certain reviewer TW is an absolute stickler on certain points of style.  Most of these 'rules' aren't, and I disagree with her at least half the time.

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'Skirmish' maybe?  Though I suspect they are cognates.

On the heater shield: the Wikipedia article asserts that the term is a neologism and properly refers to a small shield, not a full-body shield.  I can see that Tazar would not want to carry a scutum himself, but those holding the line probably need larger shields to hold the line.

If, on the other had, we view Tazar as two-legged cavalry, a concentration-shock element, the smaller shield makes sense.

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Well, when your battle starts, you still have the line.

I attended the U of Iowa summer program a couple of times.  Even in a week, you learn an awful lot.   Of course learning what you need to do it and learning to make it work yourself are different things.  But it's still a big jump.

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Ceridwen wrote:

One thousand words by 22 April? In fantasy and/or magic. Okay, I'm in. If it works, the piece (modified) will be incorporated into my next chapter.
Do I post here? Ceridwen

One thousand max.

No, you go through the normal publish-as-short-story sequence.  In the last of the {button} --arrow--> {button} operations (... content, publish ...) you have the chance to enter contests.

Yes, it violates the Principle of Least Surprise.  No, I wasn't consulted in its design.  This website design is heavily task-sequence oriented; it takes you there but makes it hard to see where you are going.

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njc wrote:

Two shield walls held fast,

'opposed each other, holding fast'?

'each pressed hard, holding fast against the enemy'?

Three more started maneuvering his way at the signal. Another was too focused, failing to see anything but the melee in front of him. No matter. Five was a lucky number.

Okay, I missed this.  Techincally, a melee is what you have after the line of battle (or other proper order) has broken down.

Sorry about that.

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I found this on Roman tactical doctrine against the phalanx and Alexandrian echelon formations.

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I have the pigeon-flasher working as intended, but I've disturbed some things in my testbed detector.  I need to set them back to be sure everything is working as planned.  Then I need to set up another breadboard prototype to check the major (and minor)  layout revisions I have planned.  Before I start placing parts, I want to do a new master wiring/parts layout diagram.

And I need to work on Physical Design, and to order more parts.

Jube wrote:

Looking at rule 14 for example, I haven't run across any type of writing aids that go into this area. The aids I've seen stay on a more fundamental building block basis such as explaining why using split infinitives is allowable and the origin of the complaint against them.

Split infinitives are grammar.  Strunk is going on to the use of grammar for composition.

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Okay, let me give this a try.

amy s wrote:

Bristling spears tangled and vied for position. Tazar lunged to the side, avoiding a point that jabbed for his right eye.

'jabbed for' suggests that the point itself had intent.  'jabbed towards' or 'jabbed at' woud avoid this.

The line of combat was chaos incarnate, looking more like a jumble of knitting needles than an organized front.

Good image, though 'jumble' is a mild word.  'tangle' might be better, but I suggest a session with Mister Thesaurus.

You could drop 'looking' and 'like', speeding the flow a bit.

Two shield walls held fast,

'opposed each other, holding fast'?

So they are using linear tactics, never having had Roman Legions whose movements within their line would break the opposing line?  (We still don't know just how they did it.)

leaving soldiers on either side to reach over their protective barriers, trying to score a hit. Spears thrust through any opening as the opposing side tried to grab the weapons and pull them out enemy hands.

This is in the past tense, but 'thrust' is present tense.

Both men and women shoved, grunted and howled insults or encouragement to each other.

You don't need 'both'.

On the side of the good guys, the shields interlocked, protecting the braced priests from the stabbing melee above and in front of them.

Instead of specifying 'good guys', why not just name that side and let the reader make the usual assumption: that until further notice, the protagonist(s) are the good guys?

The first comma suggests a parenthetical-effect match with the second comma.  Since that's not the structure, I suggest dropping the first comma.  The second is the more necessary, and provides a more balanced break of the sentence.  Everything after the comma modifies not the immediately preceeding predicate but the more remote subect of the sentence, 'the shields'.

Instead of 'in front of', 'before'.  Its length matches 'above', creating symmetrical brevity around the conjunction.

The bad guys had a distinct advantage. Two layers deep, their shield wall wore so much armor they looked like iron-clad barrels. All the spears behind them had to do was flail until they scored.

'bad guys'=>'Their opponents, {name},'

An enemy weapon scored a hit on the priest next to Tazar, denting the man's leather armor and taking him off his feet. The gold bracelet on the other fighter’s wrist popped like breaking glass.

'other fighter' == 'fallen fighter'?  Otherwise I might thing that the other fighter is the enemy who struck the blow.

Without the magical bracer keeping him protected from the shield,

'keeping him protected'=>'protecting'.

What shield?

The fallen priest's magical bracer?  Charmed bracer?  The magic of the fallen priest's bracer?

Tazar could see the strain in the other man's eyes.

In the priest's eyes?  Why is Tazar looking away from the threat?  Doesn't he know better?  I suggest leaving Tazar's PoV for a couple of paragraphs to cover this, and letting him concentrate on the battle.

Shaking his head like a dog, the downed fighter let his brothers pick him up by the armpits and made a shaky path away from the front line. The chosen weapon of their Order lay in the dirt, abandoned like a piece of firewood.

These Games were anything but.

This asserts a negative with an oblique expression.  'The City called this a game.  It was battle, staking Tos G'Swa's future on wooden weapons wielded.'  Okay, that last bit is frumpery.

The weapons might be made out of wood, but the stakes were real.

The long-armed fighter aiming for Tazar’s face used the distraction to tap his helmet. The curved skullcap deflected the blow. Tazar’s bracelet didn’t break.

The spear goaded him, jabbing closer to his face.

He grabbed the spear’s tip and gave it a heave, yanking it out of the enemy’s hands. Swinging the weapon through the tangle of knitting needles, Tazar pulled his arm back, grateful that the soldier-priests behind him were short.

Drawing his arm back, he aimed, using the spear as a javelin.

Tazar grunted and lunged, releasing the weapon into a low arc.

The oversized lance flew into the air.

The weapon made contact with head of the man who enjoyed taunting Tazar.

'struck the head of the enemy soldier taunting Tazar.  The man's head flew back and his body followed, to the ground.' ?


'The oversized lance flew across the fighting lines and struck ... .  His head flew back ...' ?

The enemy soldier’s head flew back, taking the rest of the body to the ground. Two or three others fell alongside their comrade in a healthy pile.

The sound of shattering glass followed.

Satisfied, Tazar was willing to go back to keeping the shield wall from being shoved off their feet, but someone pressed another wooden spear into his hand. The tip of this spear had a blunt tip, but the point wore barbs and was carved in a wide base to prevent the point from accidentally piercing through someone’s armor. The other team didn’t use any similar caution.

'was willing'=>'was ready'?

'keeping the shield wall from being shoved off their feet' => 'holding the shield wall together on its feet'?

The tip had a blunt tip, or the spear's tip was blunt and wide, with hooks?  In which case it's not really a spear.  Not exactly a halberd either, but hooked weapons were used to pull down mounted fighters.  A paging tour of Wikipedia, starting perhaps with 'halberd', should turn up some suitable words.

Yet another reason they were the bad guys.

That is what made {x} the bad guys.

Tazar aimed at the shouting leader of the barrel-armored shield wall.

The javelin hit with full force, but the well-armored soldier stayed standing. Tazar heard a muffled but mocking laugh that made him want to grind his teeth.

'A muffled, mocking laugh made Tazar ...'

This was going nowhere.

They were getting nowhere?

He tapped the helmet of the soldier behind him. Eyes turned toward Tazar, darting back to the fray soon after.

Exchange 'He' and 'Tazar'.

“What?” demanded a woman’s voice.

There was a lady in there? Tazar made sure to include her in his bubble of things-to-be-protected.

Can you remove the question, and adjust the second sentence to match?

“Change the rules. We’re going low!” he ordered. Letting out a piercing whistle that would have made Airen proud, Tazar caught the attention of another over-sized fighter a few places down. “You! Over here!”

In this press, it was going to take time before anyone could join up. Tazar looked to his other side.

A spear nearly caught him in the nose.

Grabbing it on the thrust, Tazar jammed the weapon back at the user and heard a satisfying yelp of pain. He used a brief respite to whistle at another couple soldiers making shade for the little people around them.

Three more started maneuvering his way at the signal. Another was too focused, failing to see anything but the melee in front of him. No matter. Five was a lucky number.

Tazar waited until all five of them were together. “Grab a shield and give a shove!” He tapped the helmet of the woman with her hooked spear.

Try without 'of them'.  Instead of 'Tazar waited ...', try 'When all five ... Tazar ...'

“Now!” he roared.

Behira’s priests pulled their spears back, stabbing under the pointed edge of the heater shields. The weapons darted forward, using the flat edge of the blade to hook the ankles of the over-armored fighters.

Have you defined 'heater shield'?  You use it more than once, so I assume it's not a typo.

“Heave!” he shouted to his Lucky Five. Grabbing one of the shield-wall fighters by the waist, he used the man as a ram on the bad-guy’s torso.

'The' bad guy?  Which one?  There are a lot of them.  You mean the taunter, the loudmouth?

Why hyphenate 'bad-guy'?

Catching the hint, the other tall men followed suit, knocking down a row of armored soldiers like players on a board.

You don't need the first phrase.

'other tall men followed suit'=>'four tall fighters pushed/pressed forward/ with Tazar'?

'knocking down ... armored soldiers'=>toppling ((seven or eight)) armored enemies out of their line', and you can drop the simile.

There was no sound of glass breaking but Tazar didn’t care. These overdone suits were too heavy for the wearers to sit up. Just to make sure, Tazar stepped on the enemy’s helmet to keep him down.

'Tazar didn't care'=>'it didn't matter'.

Try 'be' instead of 'make'.  It's a little shorter, but also a little less vivid.

Taking short stomps to keep his footing, Tazar advanced, using the good-guy and his shield as protection. He punched the heater shield into the next layer of metal-barrel armor.

The shield wall began to fall.

'The enemy shield wall was falling'?


Overall, the description, flow, and logic are good and feel true to linear tactics as I understand them.

A followup thought on Strunk's nr. 16 and a few of the other rules: they have the greatest force for things like essays and instruction. where there is no need to guide the eye of the reader's mind.  (Nr. 13 is in full force, always!)  That doesn't mean they can be disregarded, only that there may be a need to satisfy multiple demands at once, and thus to balance Strunk's principles against others.

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amy s wrote:

What other think of as a 'power moment'. I'm coming up with a rubric so that I can give a point value for each point that defines a great action/ power scene.

I would REALLY like help with this part. Here's what I have in my head so far. ...
Any other thoughts? What do you guys think

Does the character have to choose the moment (Katerin's display) or can the moment choose the character (an unexpected assailant in battle)?

For me, a use of power gains strength by its immediate connection to action, plot, and character.  It loses strength if it is scene-setting or milieu

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Linda Lee wrote:

Others may not find your genre to their liking.

A good reason to start your reviews in genres you plan to write in.  It can also keep you in more comfortable waters.

2. When writing a review, never assume anything. Just review to the best of your ability and hope it's helpful to the writer.

But do read the author's note at the top to see if there's a request to reviewers.  If a writer says "please check my pronouns and antecedents" you shouldn't fear to be picky about the pronouns and antecedents.  Just remain constructive and respectful.

Finally, or maybe first: take a moment to notice what you like or admire about the work, and say it.  Not just to sugar the medicine; the author might not realize that something works well for the reader.

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Good luck on the test.  Remember the little stuff and stay 5 mph below all the speed limits.

Yes, the power budget is about battery life.  I'm using C cells.  Depending on how fast you draw the current and where your low voltage cutoff is, good alkaline C's can give you between two and ten amp-hours.  My low-voltage cutoff is about 3.6 volts for four or 0.9 volts per cell.  With very low current, I'm on the longest curve, so I'm hoping for 7.7 amp-hours.  When it's off-hook or flashing it will draw more current, so I need a little margin.  If I figure 7.5 amp-hours and 52560 hours.  Divide 7.4 amp-hours by 52560 hours and you get 0.000136 amps, or 136 microamps.  Might as well call it 135.

The most important operations in High School Algebra are adding zero and multiplying by one.

Here are the relevant sections from an older edition of Strunk and White.  Some spellings have changed and a few commas would be omitted from the text (but not from the examples) were it to be written today.  I point you particularly to items 3, 7 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 16, and 18.  You might also want to take a gander at page 3 of the group.

Polish at this level first.  Well, not so much polish as smooth out.  If you don't you won't see clearly what you're chom#pping.

I need sleep now.