I watched the ACW movie 'Free State of Jones' last night and found it intriguing; not least because it is purported to be based upon true events. How accurately the facts are represented I don't know, but I found myself very interested in the story all the same.

I sat there thinking that with the (up until now, for me) unknown existence 'real' stories like this -- huge stories -- why is so much attention and notoriety placed upon narrow-minded, wobbly, sentimental claptrap like 'to kill a mocking bird?' (But that's another story, smile and I am up for a Newton Knight V Atticus Finch comparison discussion one day if you have the energy. wink

Anyway, the movie  'Free State of Jones' has sparked enough interest within me to seek out and buy the novel, The Free State of Jones by Victoria E. Bynum.

...which in turn led me to add the following to my Amazon basket;

The State of Jones: The Small Southern County That Seceded from the Confederacy by Sally Jenkins

The Free State of Jones and the Echo of the Black Horn: Two Sides of the Life and Activities of Captain Newt Knight by Thomas Jefferson Knight & Ethel Knight

Free State of Jones and Parallels by Kathleen Shelby Boyett

&

Legend of the Free State of Jones by Rudy H. Leverett



What are you reading right now? ...for the next month or so, the above. smile

corra wrote:

"I had known General Lee in the old army, and had served with him ....

Fascinating... who is the narrator here?

corra wrote:

Charlotte's Web was my favorite...

It is indeed, a finely written piece.

Out of appreciation I placed an excerpt from that book into the shred-thread for analysis.

Here's a excerpt from Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White it's a book that I loved to read to my daughter when she was a tot. It is (IMO) an extremely nicely written story for the narrator. A pleasure to read aloud. The story captivates because (IMO) the prose captivates. No sophisticated word-play or play on words but simple clarity composed with rhythm. The descriptive text in tempo seems to match the action of the rope ride?

I think the passage  below is worthy of some analysis in order to understand how it swings so beautifully.


Mr. Zuckerman had the best swing in the county.  It was a single long piece of heavy rope tied to the beam over the north doorway.  At the bottom end of the rope was a fat knot to sit on.  It was arranged so that you could swing without being pushed.  you climbed a ladder to the hayloft. Then, holding the rope, you stood at the edge and looked down, and were scared and dizzy.  Then you straddled the knot, so that it acted as a seat.  Then you got up all your nerve, took a deep breath, and jumped.  For a second you seemed to be falling to the barn floor far below, but then suddenly the rope would begin to catch you and you would sail through the barn door going a mile a minute, with the wind whistling in your eyes and ears and hair.  Then you would zoom upward into the sky, and look up at the clouds, and the rope would twist and you would twist and turn with the rope.  Then you would drop down, down, down, out of the sky and come sailing back into the barn almost into the hayloft, then sail out again (not quite so far this time), then in again (not quite so  high), then out again, then in again, then out, then in; and then you’d jump off and fall down and let somebody else try it.

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The reason that I never noticed (or took notice of) 'Sophie's Choice' is because of a bizarre brain freeze ailment that I have.  I used to read to my eldest daughter when she was a tot (she loved/loves books so much more than her younger sister who lived/lives for music). Anyway one of the books she was very fond of is E. B. White’s ‘Charlotte’s Web’ and I read it to her two or maybe three times.

Somehow -- and I don’t know why -- if ‘Sophie’s Choice is mentioned, within the back of my mind (an automatic subliminal substitution) I was hearing ‘Charlotte’s Web’ and in the front of my mind I was visualising that children’s story.

This has happened to me a few times now; where I hear the name of one thing and seamlessly associate that thing with something else. Usually it is movies rather than books, but in the case of 'Sophie's Choice' V ‘Charlotte’s Web’ I think it is both. Yes, I know that I’m an idiot smile

Two stories about as far apart as can be… but then again as I think upon it, maybe not.

corra wrote:

Beautiful clip. They had courage... yes.

I've seen Sophie's Choice several times, but you have me wanting to watch it again. The book is on my to- read list. Meryl Streep is my favorite actress. I think she is phenomenal in Sophie's Choice as well as Out of Africa.

I know 'Out of Africa' well. I've seen the film a couple of times over the years and read the novel. I've also read 'Winter's Tales' by Isak Dinesen (Karen Blixen's pen name); but I've never come across 'Sophie's Choice' in book or film. Weird that I've never encountered it before, but wonderful now that I have. It is a real thrill to know that there is more out there for me to discover.

I like Meryl Streep too. Within that Sophie's Choice clip she is so utterly believable. As I mentioned before, I found it compelling. She can spellbind her audience.

Good stuff!

Someone pointed me toward the old movie, 'Sophie's Choice' the other week. I'd never seen it. I found Meryl Streep's - 'They Had Courage' monologue to be  compelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_1MW46G9I

corra wrote:

I'm about halfway though Grant's memoirs now. I just finished the Seige of Vicksburg. Apparently when the Confederates surrendered, the soldiers hadn't eaten in quite some time. The Union soldiers remained silent as the Confederate soldiers passed, rather than cheering victory, then began reaching into their bags and sharing bread with the defeated Confederates...

By coincidence and in extreme contrast I was also just reading some passages that caused me to wonder deeply about the treatment of prisoners of war by the victors of the conflict.

'On Paths of Ash' by Robert Holman is a factual account by Australian servicemen and medical staff that documents the invasion and occupation of Singapore by the Imperial Japanese Army in World War Two.

It is a catalogue of atrocities and outrages so barbarous and brutal that it almost beggars belief. 

Within the incident I’m currently reading about, Japanese soldiers stormed the Alexandra, British Military Hospital and slaughtered fifty of the medical staff and patients alike in a frenzy of killing, mostly with swords, bayonets and clubs. Even those undergoing surgery and the bed-ridden were summarily executed. Following the first massacre. The Japanese forced the 150 survivors to clean up the mess before they herded them into a cramped room overnight. Those who didn’t die of suffocation or weren’t selected to be raped to death were released into the courtyard the next morning in groups of eight at time, where they were killed by being used for bayonet practice. Only five souls survived the second massacre (by hiding in a storm drain).

Respect and the sharing of bread, or being hacked to death for fun. The human condition; different sides of the coin.

corra wrote:

I'm a third through Grant's memoirs. Piping good.

I assume this is 'Ulysses S. Grant' the ACW General rather than Hugh Grant the fop actor? (available in hardback for one penny, and no takers smile )

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hugh-Grant-Una … +biography

Starting Master Of War by David Gilman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKyuzXw … JwwJbQu7xs

Field Grey, By Philip Kerr (just finished)

corra wrote:

I love a book that can make me sink into it like that! It's rare with me: I'm extremely aware. And when I try to read on the train, I inevitably sit next to someone whose phone won't stop ringing. lol

A couple of years ago I was driving from London to Birmingham, the motorway is dull and straight, no turns or distractions and it was night, so the traffic was sparse.  As I drove I listened to a John le Carré novel on audio, unabridged and narrated by the man himself. I was so totally absorbed that by the time I came to and recovered self awareness, I was way north of Manchester having overshot Birmingham by over a hundred miles.

City of Gold by Len Deighton.

I'm liking the look of the 'Genius' movie. All those Brits and Aussies doing American accents is a bit odd though. I have a soft spot for Kidman. Ever since the Cold Mountain film (which is one of my favorite movies - and she's paired with Jude Law in that one too). The Siege of Petersburg sequence is fantastic cinematography IMO.

corra wrote:

Hello! smile

- The Portrait of a Lady by Henry James (LOVELY, so far. Although I've only just begun.)
- Victoria by Daisy Goodwin (The miniseries is just airing here in America. I'm quite addicted.)

Just finished a reread of The Tempest for a class. I see more in Shakespeare every time.

The Girl With All The Gifts by M. R. Carey

That one has some good reviews!

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Girl with all the Gifts? It's okay... Zombie apocalypse and all that. I'm not over-keen upon that sub-genre but it was a gift and it read okay on the commute and in a departure lounge.

I've moved on to;

SS-GB by Len Deighton, and it is so much more 'me.'  It's the difference between a novel that I select and one that is selected for me.

Funny thing, I feel like I'm reading a novel like 'The Girl with all the Gifts,' from the outside. An outsider looking in... I observe the story. Although, when I read a novel like SS-GB, I'm inside it. Totally immersed A different kind of reading experience.  I'm terrible when totally engaged within a novel; I can miss a station on the train journey or the call for a flight at the airport. Yesterday a lady on the train out of London had to nudge me with her elbow because my phone within my coat pocket was ringing and I was totally oblivious to it, my nose firmly within the book.

Norm d'Plume wrote:

Aren't you a pleasant little fellow....

I've never professed to be pleasant. Actually I am still disgusted by your vile 'WTF' and 'LMAO' responses on page 37 of this thread.

Aren't you a thoroughly unpleasant big fellow.

Memphis Trace wrote:

In my case it is the arrogance that comes from knowing my audience. I know I can save a few disremembered keystrokes and have a proper picture of what I am communicating flash up for colonists. When there is even the slightest chance it will also render apoplectic a Brit—or preferably a Frenchman— spellchecking hall monitor, I consider it a triumph of wordsmithery.

Yup Memfis. Thatz jus wunnerful. Wordsmiferry.   

I understand; it's the 11th amendment to the Amerrycan bill of rights. 'The right to write any old bollocks and still be right.

Brule it is then.

I suppose that'd be crème brûlée?

Why do North Americans feel a compulsion and the sense of entitlement to hijack bastardise and dumb-down every word they find personally inconvenient? 

Ignorance, arrogance or both?

I'm afraid that is what first comes to mind when I read...

Norm d'Plume wrote:

creme brule

Sorry, but it just is.

The Girl With All The Gifts by M. R. Carey   

The last of my Xmas presents

I'm finding it much better than I'd expected. Never judge a book by it's giver. smile

Now I'll have to get back into the habit of buying my own books.

jack the knife wrote:

Anyone who has read Child's Jack Reacher books knows he uses "was" A LOT! Sometimes 5 or 6 times in one paragraph. Somehow he managed to get past the agent, publisher, and editor hurdles with his writing style.

I think that maybe his writing style matches the reading style of his readers. Within their daily language they probably use the word 'was' as readily, often and in the same places as it is written within the prose they are reading.

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

I was just told this is telling.

Dill Carver wrote:
Norm d'Plume wrote:

I was just told this is telling.

In my opinion (interpretation) it is reportage. Yes that is technically 'telling' but "from the POV of someone outside the scene who is watching this on video." It is always going to be. But why does it matter, if it is in context, what is the worry?

Some scenes require to be 'shown' and others require to be 'told'.

The $20 writing course mantra  'Show don't tell!' is not a strict law which dictates that everything written needs to be 'shown'. It merely means that if an action, emotive response, scene or sentiment is appropriate for 'showing' then show it rather than tell it.

However, if an action, emotive response, scene or sentiment needs to be recounted by a character or narrator rather than experienced in context by a character, then it has to be told.

The author of the simplistic glib $20 writing course does not understand what they are misinterpreting. It is just as valid to invent a bullet-point law that states, 'Tell, don't show!'  Either mantra is as true as the other dependent upon the context.

Writing that is written with strict adherence to these 'idiots guides to writing rules' often stinks.

njc wrote:
Dill Carver wrote:

The best books that I've ever read about writing are not about writing they are simply the best books that I've ever read.

True, and brilliantly said.  Do you mind if I insert the sentence break when I quote it?

Use the quote any way that you want to.
It is a simple truth. The answers are within what we read and admire. Learn from those  titles.

Learning from 'Writing for Dummies?' Well, as hip as that title is, the clue is within it.