If I choose a different pen name, rename my characters (a process that I dread), rename all of my locations, and change my titles, this information shouldn't be easily found. However, I've decided on names that I like and they are distinctive enough that they pop to the top on an internet search. Part of the disadvantages of trying to write fantasy.

Three words, Linda. I can find my forum in three words.

And I don't that public forums are an upside. Your example had his information stolen because of a public forum, requiring massive time and emotional wear-and-tear as he fought to benefit from his ideas. The stored archived and timed information let him win the case, but if it hadn't been public, the whole thing wouldn't have happened. He might have won money for his effort, but how much of it went to lawyers? Will he ever have a career in Hollywood for writing this blockbuster?

Our site is dark now. I can google those same words, and get the same hit to my info popping up at the top. However, the site blocks access now because it is private and requires a password.

I don't find your suggestion helpful of doing plot specific conversations over private messaging. How can you have a forum and not talk about plot? I've found a writers group here. A real group. They know my work and keep track of continuity. This is in large part because we aren't passing notes back and forth under the table. Instead, my experience is like talking over a table with a group of friends. There aren't a whole lot of barriers and we can speak what is on our mind.

And here is an example where things could get uncomfortable for the writer who is 'exposed' by a casual google that reaches the forum. Think of the Romance group, where anatomical questions are debated and sexual positions are discussed.  One of our members is in this group. I googled the name of her characters and the title. Boom. Right at the top of a search. Then I added the search word: Romance. That got me to the Romance page. A quick link got me to the forum list of conversations and straight to the 'adult content' link. Five clicks and I was reading up on p***s sizes. This was done while I was NOT signed in, yet I had full access to this forum.

That much access is inappropriate. If our writing is protected by TNBW, then the forums can be protected. Note that my search didn't reveal my books or the text involved. It also didn't reveal the old information from the forums that Sol took down on the old site.

I discussed deleting the site entirely and starting fresh so that the material wasn't so easy to find. Instead, we're going dark. That will continue until this problem is resolved. I'm doing it to protect friends. I'm also protecting their time and life's work. They have reason to be proud of what they are creating.

A

Elisheva,

I used to write a chapter every month to two months. I didn't want to write something that wasn't correct and I wasn't sure on the plot at that time.

So an example of what I'm dealing with right now…

I'm stuck with the characters in a place where they can talk, have time, and at least one character is aware of something 'not quite right'. I have to get the conversation to make sense. In other words, it's time to pass out some clues. So I'm going to write the second half of the chapter and get that over with. I have that part in my head and it is action, so it should flow pretty easily.

Another way that I get my writing faster is to write future scenes that will tie in with the story later. If a battle or encounter is really strong in my imagination, I find that I replay that part of the story in my head.  I have to write it out to move on. This is how I used to write all the time. The disadvantage is that you have to connect the dramatic parts with less-interesting moments that don't hold attention as much. 

The contribution of this site to my writing is that it made me write/publish in sequence. Now that I see the value of linear story, my piecemeal storytelling can come out of the closet and get thrown back into play…it isn't a disadvantage any more. I just don't publish those chapter until they are linked into the linear storytelling.

So anyway, consider writing ahead of where you are in your book. It really helps you with the overall plot. Even better? Write the ending. Having a destination for your story is a HUGE mental leap. It gives you somewhere to aim your arrows instead of just writing onto a blank wall.

You are so twenty year old, sweetie. Pretty is pretty. The guys in 300 were hot and lumpy in all the right places. How many years ago did that come out? Wasn't it 4 years ago? Or five?

It might be worth a re-watch to see if they can change your mind :-) It's like Daniel Craig as 007 in Spectre. Is he uninteresting because he's as old as your father? Hmmmm?

879

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Calorie free as well. Just not as fun if the chocolates aren't in front of your face.

880

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(Virtual wine glass appears)

Clink!

I agree that the film was rife with inaccuracies, but the beefcake was nice to watch. I found it thought-provoking to learn about Thermopylae. Our entire civilization would be a very different place if the Persians hadn't chosen 1) that site to land, 2) that pass as a choke point, and 3) 300 men hadn't been standing in the way. As far as significant-globe-changing-battles, that one is certainly near the top of the list. That, and the battle of Marathon.

Here is a site I liked. http://ancientgreekbattles.net/Pages/48 … opylae.htm 

Don't know how much more accurate it is than others, but still an entertaining read.

Oh, and '300' also let Lena Headey get a meaty role (Cercei Lannister from Game of Thrones)

Rebecca, you said, "The archers are not shooting because the soldiers are fighting hand to hand. They could not risk shooting their own men in such a mess. This is why Drech picks the one archer whom he knows is a marksman. I'll try to explain that better."

Here is my issue. You have a shield wall with locked shields and spears/ swords poking above and through the breaks in the wall. You have organized ranks of fighters...like eight deep...adding reinforcement to the front line. So far, the lines are intact, so the rival is bunched in even ranks.

This is not hand-to-hand in the strict definition. It isn't a melee where everything is just chaos and archers can't shoot without risking hitting their own.

So...

The opposing shield wall is locked and pressing against Drech's shield wall. How can this archer shoot through eight-thick ranks of men, penetrating through a break in the shield wall, and then hitting the opposing side? While standing on ground level and without elevation? Unless the fighters in the back ranks are using their shields to cover their heads (like the Greeks did in the movie 300), then the back ranks are both vulnerable and accessible because the archer has to elevate his bow to go over the heads of his own team and then drop the arrow into the massed enemy.

Consider yourself invited. It's a hike, but in the past, those who live far away fly in to Cleveland (or Pittsburgh) and have someone pick them up. I'd be honored to meet you, Elishiva. The whole shibang lasts 2 weeks at the beginning of August. I'll get a tent for you and try to find you some garb. That way, you won't feel like a fish out of water :-)

Same to you, Janet, and your boys. And husband, if he could be lured to join us. Did I mention that my group brews their own beer?

Same to you, Rebecca.

Kenny can't come because he doesn't have a passport.

NJC can't come because he needs to stay a mystery. (Though he does owe me a cup of coffee :-)

Janet, you said, "Then, one reviewer (Amy), but I won't mention any names, has actually picked up one word that I thought was Middle English, but she said was modern, and she turned out to be right (I still don't know how the hell she did that, it's scary!"

You just need to go camping with me for about four days at the Pennsic War. I can't say how much I've learned from this particular group of people. I camp with a nuclear scientist, a person who writes professional opera in Europe, a college professor, three doctors, and an assortment of other people who have all done more research than I can list. One in particular is one of the top five most knowlegable people (in the world) on glove construction throughout the middle ages. One does card weaving. One makes his own dyes out of various herbals. One paints professionally. More than one leads the fighters so I can learn about troop movements. One is an archery marshall.

All of them are cooks. You should see the meals these nuts can cook over an open fire. They are the ones who taught me how to cook for eighty to a hundred of my closest friends. We have a bread oven (that we put together each year) for making fresh bread, pizza, and cookies.

All you have to do is sit there and listen.  I've sat by a fire and listened  to people tell Norse ballads, gone to dance exhibitions, taken my son to do children's dance, gone to classes on calligraphy, medicine in the middle ages, and (fill in the blank).  Some of my group like to read Middle English aloud, so I've kind of got the meter in my head.

For what it is worth, Rebecca...you would be another person who would revel in this place. You can specialize in a time period, wear the clothes, weave the fabric...or you can buy the stuff.

Oh, did I mention the shopping? Oh...my...God...

Here is a website. Look at the picture album link on the first page. You'll see what I mean.

pennsic.net

885

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I shall stop making predictions and sit on my laurels lest I fail in being right all the time. Better to quit with a perfect record...

886

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OK, I'm going to think out loud. This isn't me saying something I'm firm and fixed upon.  I'm trying to wrap my head around (R ) romance so that I don't preach about how to write a book that you don't want to write.

I did screw up who was fighting. Point taken. And I also remember teasing you about drinking the water instead of ale. (Good nit back). (FYI, I like the watered-down ale for hydration.) I just think that shorting the fight scenes isn't advancing your plot.  You start the story with a mystery and I think you can do this without deleting the (R ) romance.

Here is me thinking.

Distraction and deflection are basic concepts of a good mystery. Ex: Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Purnelle. A fact is mentioned in the beginning that the 'rats' have six limbs. 'Time demons' are shown in a museum exhibit, and explained away despite the fact they have five limbs and a grasping claw. Then there are 500 pages of info explaining why 'Moties' should be allowed to join habitable space. Then the MC sees the 'rats' again and puts 2+2 together and realizes that the 'rats' have been engineered to form soldiers. That the sculpture in the museum was about a real incident and 'Moties' were actually the warriors, extremely aggressive and have been involved in massive scale destruction.

This was done with one word and only 68 pages left in the book.

Distraction: The 'Moties' fight amongst themselves as they try to get the perfect representation. They start a really big war. There are humans who need to be rescued. There are factions who try to help the humans.

Deflection: 500 fricking pages of interesting material. All the sociology workup. The math of the star drives. (by a Caltech grad)

I think my husband's word for the epiphany was, "Fuuuuuu**!"

That said, presenting your clues in the beginning, having a lot of distraction (heaving bosoms and glistening brows) and deflection (A lot of events and searching…maybe an innocent gets kidnapped or someone has to be saved...) Then only clues you may need are a a series of characters who weren't present at certain events and using these facts to implicate them. This can be sufficient to keep your (R ) romance in play. That way, the characters only have to make a spreadsheet (pun intended) and they can figure out the bad guy at the end.

I like this solution. It keeps your story on track (at least in my mind). The (R ) romance is the distraction and forwards your goals. It lets your writing take its own path. It satisfies me because there is a plan and I know how to help you and stay out of the way.

Is this more accurate a description (in Amy language) of what you are going for?

OK, well…fine…

Fair enough :-)

888

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Maybe it is Peter and the Steward. THat way, we are both right.

889

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Nope, I'm not just flailing. The Steward is my top suspect.

I think this is about priorities. You have repeatedly said that you want this book to be about boinking and the mystery is secondary. Now you're asking if you can leave the mystery slightly obscured so that you don't have to add any other characters (so you are avoiding the mystery). Then you say that this mystery will be tied together over the course of three books and only resolved at the end. (Three books to resolve a mystery that was promised in the first chapter? It sounds like my story…) Then you say there is an epic battle coming but you don't want to write about a sparring contest between M and BJ. AND Aiden. Don't forget Aiden.

I find so many opinions confusing, only tied together by a bunch of tumbles in the hay, on the dining room table, and in C's bedroom.

You said, 'instead of just having Matthew noting his strength was deteriorating fast with every blow he deflected'. This is where I see you having trouble with the action. You write with an analysis, while no one has time to think between being pummeled repeatedly. Combat is about action. Movement. Ex: Go to a movie that you like, put the action scene on the screen and write it. Just for practice. Don't make the scene about who is stronger. Leave the results up in the air. Then draw the picture instead of just saying, "They struck each other with a flurry of blows."

In my (questionable) opinion, you have to tell a story well to make the characters live and thrive in your world. So if you want to present a mystery, make it a GREAT mystery. If you don't want to add characters, then BJ can't be present during the initial attack where C is injured. You have to find a way to make EVERYONE in M's world a suspect so that C is the only one he's sure that it is safe to talk to. Even the kid who overheard the conversation might be lying. Let the reader figure out who they think is innocent. Since C is the only safe confidant, this could lead to further sex, so win-win.

However, I believe (again questionable) that you need to write better combat in the beginning so it is expected at the end. A sparring match isn't a battle, but M gets portrayed as tougher if he beats BJ. BJ's reaction gives clues on how persistent he is, how much hurt he is willing to take, and how far he is willing to go. (Ergo…leading to whether he is a suspect or not). I never have any doubt that M is going to win his fights. There has to be risk. So if you have BJ as strong or perhaps stronger than M, this is a series of clues in addition to being an action scene. So learning to write better combat will increase the learning curve of your reader, as well as you.

In other words, I don't think that adding additional characters is a waste of time or that it is counter-productive to your primary goal. I've gone to a talk or two about romance. A consistent theme is that editors are looking for good stories with a love story in there. To do that, you need to work on the mystery because that is what you are selling in the first chapter.

Hey, New Jersey. Ernie caught a clew. That makes two of you. You aren't alone...

891

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I see your snowplow and raise you one ROTARY COMBO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuX4G3znpDE    Take a look at this! (Bounces in delight)  There are two…only two of them in the United States. They are used once a DECADE (or for snowfall of 10 feet or more). They keep Donner pass open, which is the only freight line from Washington/ California and through the Sierra Nevada mountains.

It makes my inner geek howl with delight to see it throwing snow in excess of 300 feet. Don't stand close to this one, kiddies...

892

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There is a reason why some houses in upper Michigan and Wisconsin have second-story doors that don't have a patio.

893

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Interesting thoughts that made my head hurt. This must mean I learned something.

Happy holidays to all, in the fashion to which you've become accustomed and with the people who matter.

A

894

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You gave me another double negative...sniff...you are the BEST, New Jersey!

895

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I have true Xmas off. Which is good because the last day I worked, I was alone with my surgeon for company and I admitted seven patients . Three were gunshots. I've officially decided that nobody/nowhere can shoot nobody no-how for the rest of the year.

So much that I'm not going to think about those double negatives.

Nope. Not allowed

896

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Because of the circcular shape?

897

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I'm celebrating on the 26th. I hope God doesn't care. I did the same thing last year. I believe a new tradition is in order.

A

Here is the rest. Ernie, do you know the meaning of crepuscular? So far, I've made him look up four words. One of the hardest earned feathers in my cap...

899

(56 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Thank you. I'm busy thinking about how pressure is dispersed through a tire...

900

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Merci