When I started out, I thought I had what it took to be a writer. I knew how to put words together to make coherent sentences, I had a decent vocabulary, I knew all the rules of grammar and punctuation (not quite all, it turned out!). So when I started posting chapters here ten years ago, the critiques surprised and humbled me. But I learned and didn't become discouraged, because reviewers gave me positives along with the negatives. Ten published books later, I'm still learning. I'd like to think that each new novel I write is better written than the previous one. I still get the occasional scathing review here, but now I have the experience (and confidence) to consider such critiques as opinions - some on point and worthwhile, others not - rather than gospel. It takes time to find one's stride in this pursuit. Those with the writing bug, and you seem to be among that number, should stick with it, regardless of how gloomy the path ahead appears at the moment. Otherwise, one will always wonder about what might have been.
177 2018-06-15 12:26:22
Re: Many thanks to TNBW Reviewers (15 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Congratulations, Randy!
178 2018-06-14 21:35:01
Re: Writing dialogue (62 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Deckland Oz wrote:So why is it okay for him to so obviously disobey the sacred rules and overuse said in such a blatant way? Well, because that's his style.
And he has a fan base.
My advice to writers: don't break rules unless you have a fan base that support you no matter what.
Absolutely right. Clive Cussler has a huge fan base, and I'm among that number - but for the stories, not the writing. He breaks dialogue and POV rules all the time. But, to the point others in this thread have made, I didn't notice that in the beginning of my fanship. It was only later, after I learned the "rules," that his writing bothered me. But I still like his stories.
179 2018-06-11 16:17:51
Re: Writing dialogue (62 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Useful points, except I disagree with #4. People do use hesitating words like "uh" and "um" in conversation, so I don't see why they should be banished from written dialogue. And, in fact, the use of these words often in a character's dialogue can distinguish their speech pattern from that of other characters (#6).
180 2018-05-27 20:25:46
Re: A Question About Serial Commas (36 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Until someone can give me an example whereby putting in that last serial (Oxford) comma confuses the meaning instead of clarifying it, I'll be an Oxford comma writer! There's no reason not to use it, IMO, other than a determination to avoid commas at all cost. And then the onus would be on the anti-Oxford comma writer to make sure the sentence doesn't give the reader the pause he was trying to avoid in the first place.
181 2018-05-23 17:09:29
Re: Punctuation (14 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
jack the knife wrote:j p lundstrom wrote:Wow, Marilyn--you do pack a punch!
I was just thinking, and I wondered: is an ellipsis one set of three dots, or would three dots, being plural, be ellipses? JPOne set of three dots is an ellipsis. More than one ellipsis are ellipses.
Not sure what Marilyn meant by an ellipsis symbol (other than dots). I tried looking it up and got nowhere. And to my mind, using a symbol of some sort instead would confuse most readers, so why bother?
Some keyboards these days have the elipse as a single key- that may be the "symbol".
Ah.
182 2018-05-23 15:56:09
Re: Punctuation (14 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Wow, Marilyn--you do pack a punch!
I was just thinking, and I wondered: is an ellipsis one set of three dots, or would three dots, being plural, be ellipses? JP
One set of three dots is an ellipsis. More than one ellipsis are ellipses.
Not sure what Marilyn meant by an ellipsis symbol (other than dots). I tried looking it up and got nowhere. And to my mind, using a symbol of some sort instead would confuse most readers, so why bother?
183 2018-05-17 12:17:35
Re: "Mysterious Ways" now published (14 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Congrats, Don. Nice to see you again!
185 2018-05-05 21:49:00
Re: Hats off to Sol (3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I suspect a bias from Sol in letting this thread - with no responses - last this long! It's been up for over a day! What say you, Sol? Like seeing strokes in the Forum? ![]()
187 2018-04-27 18:25:36
Re: Germ Line: Revolution - Stephen A. Carter (22 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
No problem, Stephen. I just wanted to make sure you knew the importance of feedback to reviewers, something new members on the site have not been aware of in the past. As I said in my review, I liked the start of your story and plan to continue with it.
Regarding the difficulty you found combining chapters in your book, another writer had a similar problem. It's easy to remedy: All you have to do is go to your profile page, click on your book, then click on + chapter. Then you paste your manuscript copy and the chapter will be added to what you've posted. If that wasn't your issue, then never mind.
And you don't need to dismantle a chapter every time you make a revision in it. You can edit in situ. The original reviews will still be there, though the revision might make them irrelevant. But I don't usually read other reviews, anyway.
It's a nice reminder to reviewers of your book to see a new posted chapter in the list, but it's not essential. Good thing, since posts only last a few days before being pushed off the list by new posts. I keep a list of those books I'm reviewing, and when I don't see a new chapter posted, I go to the author's profile page, click on the book, and click on the next chapter in line.
Cheers!
188 2018-04-27 12:44:28
Re: Germ Line: Revolution - Stephen A. Carter (22 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I reviewed your original Chapter 1, but you apparently deleted it, along with the reviews it garnered. I never received a response from you regarding my review, even though you used some of my suggestions in the rewrite. If you want to attract and keep readers for your story, this is not the way to do it.
189 2018-04-23 19:05:08
Re: A question about police procedure (6 replies, posted in Cop Shop)
I assume the murder is not discovered immediately and that it happened during the movie. So the murderer would have had ample time to walk out. The cops would have no hope to catch him in the theater. In my opinion, only that particular theater in the multiplex would be sealed off as a crime scene, and any patrons who had not left yet would be ID'd and questioned if they'd seen or heard anything - especially the discoverer of the body.
190 2018-04-22 18:24:14
Re: My first novel published. (24 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
BTW, "Al," I like your putting the map of Barrettsport at the beginning of the book.
191 2018-04-22 18:14:09
Re: My first novel published. (24 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Way to go! I don't think I read that one of your series.
192 2018-04-19 20:47:54
Re: Writing courses (22 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Again, my caveat: When gurus write these how-to books concerning novels, you should research their own history of writing - novels. Or memoirs, or whatever, besides how-to books. Donald Maass, for example, should stick to books about being a successful literary agent, and stay away from books that supposedly teach one how to write a successful novel.
193 2018-04-19 00:04:28
Re: Writing courses (22 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Donald Maass. Years ago when I was a neophyte and thought you needed an agent to get published, I queried him. Got no response. I queried him for my next book. Got no response. At that time I didn't know he'd written books on how to write a novel. You know the old saying: those that can't do, teach. Based on his track record, he can't do. One fiction book on his author page (written under a pseudonym) and for some reason he showcased a review from Publishers Weekly that was negative. No other reviews. So, not only is he not an accomplished novelist, he doesn't know marketing, either! But that book was published years ago, and he apparently learned he didn't have what it took to be a successful novelist. So now he writes books telling others how to write successful novels? Don't waste your money, peeps.
194 2018-04-16 21:27:27
Re: Group settings (23 replies, posted in This is US!!)
You can post to as many groups as you want, Cathy, but it will cost you more points to do so. At least that was the original rule Sol established. I learned that the hard way! If he changed it, I'm not aware. So I post to Premium, figuring all the members in the other groups I belong to are also Premium members.
195 2018-04-16 15:38:26
Re: Group settings (23 replies, posted in This is US!!)
What I see wrong with the no-points (required or given) system is that our posts would only go to this group's members and not a much wider community of potential reviewers - including those who have joined the site after "the good old days," and with whom relationships have been established. I would rather post to Premium than to such a limited group. But I like the idea of bringing together again the "old-timers."
196 2018-04-09 17:55:01
Re: "Exile's End" is now published. (7 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Another TNBW author gets published! Congratulations!
197 2018-04-09 14:40:30
Re: Passing on Some Good News (14 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Way to go, Denise!
198 2018-04-08 00:47:00
Re: "Out of Exile" and "Love in Exile" to be published. (7 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Congratulations!
199 2018-04-04 11:45:10
Re: Changed my mind (14 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I wish you the best in your struggle, Mike. A positive attitude is a prerequisite, and you've got that.
200 2018-03-29 14:57:26
Re: Temporary hiatus (9 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Thanks, all, for the well-wishes. The book can be found on my Amazon author page: www.amazon.com/author/johnldeboer. I'm currently working on an idea for my next story, but have a ways to go before it gets hammered out. Thanks again!