I reviewed your original Chapter 1, but you apparently deleted it, along with the reviews it garnered. I never received a response from you regarding my review, even though you used some of my suggestions in the rewrite. If you want to attract and keep readers for your story, this is not the way to do it.
176 2018-04-27 12:44:28
Re: Germ Line: Revolution - Stephen A. Carter (22 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
177 2018-04-23 19:05:08
Re: A question about police procedure (6 replies, posted in Cop Shop)
I assume the murder is not discovered immediately and that it happened during the movie. So the murderer would have had ample time to walk out. The cops would have no hope to catch him in the theater. In my opinion, only that particular theater in the multiplex would be sealed off as a crime scene, and any patrons who had not left yet would be ID'd and questioned if they'd seen or heard anything - especially the discoverer of the body.
178 2018-04-22 18:24:14
Re: My first novel published. (24 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
BTW, "Al," I like your putting the map of Barrettsport at the beginning of the book.
179 2018-04-22 18:14:09
Re: My first novel published. (24 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Way to go! I don't think I read that one of your series.
180 2018-04-19 20:47:54
Re: Writing courses (22 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Again, my caveat: When gurus write these how-to books concerning novels, you should research their own history of writing - novels. Or memoirs, or whatever, besides how-to books. Donald Maass, for example, should stick to books about being a successful literary agent, and stay away from books that supposedly teach one how to write a successful novel.
181 2018-04-19 00:04:28
Re: Writing courses (22 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Donald Maass. Years ago when I was a neophyte and thought you needed an agent to get published, I queried him. Got no response. I queried him for my next book. Got no response. At that time I didn't know he'd written books on how to write a novel. You know the old saying: those that can't do, teach. Based on his track record, he can't do. One fiction book on his author page (written under a pseudonym) and for some reason he showcased a review from Publishers Weekly that was negative. No other reviews. So, not only is he not an accomplished novelist, he doesn't know marketing, either! But that book was published years ago, and he apparently learned he didn't have what it took to be a successful novelist. So now he writes books telling others how to write successful novels? Don't waste your money, peeps.
182 2018-04-16 21:27:27
Re: Group settings (23 replies, posted in This is US!!)
You can post to as many groups as you want, Cathy, but it will cost you more points to do so. At least that was the original rule Sol established. I learned that the hard way! If he changed it, I'm not aware. So I post to Premium, figuring all the members in the other groups I belong to are also Premium members.
183 2018-04-16 15:38:26
Re: Group settings (23 replies, posted in This is US!!)
What I see wrong with the no-points (required or given) system is that our posts would only go to this group's members and not a much wider community of potential reviewers - including those who have joined the site after "the good old days," and with whom relationships have been established. I would rather post to Premium than to such a limited group. But I like the idea of bringing together again the "old-timers."
184 2018-04-09 17:55:01
Re: "Exile's End" is now published. (7 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Another TNBW author gets published! Congratulations!
185 2018-04-09 14:40:30
Re: Passing on Some Good News (14 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Way to go, Denise!
186 2018-04-08 00:47:00
Re: "Out of Exile" and "Love in Exile" to be published. (7 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Congratulations!
187 2018-04-04 11:45:10
Re: Changed my mind (14 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I wish you the best in your struggle, Mike. A positive attitude is a prerequisite, and you've got that.
188 2018-03-29 14:57:26
Re: Temporary hiatus (9 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Thanks, all, for the well-wishes. The book can be found on my Amazon author page: www.amazon.com/author/johnldeboer. I'm currently working on an idea for my next story, but have a ways to go before it gets hammered out. Thanks again!
189 2018-03-18 21:40:20
Re: A different critique (34 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
jack the knife wrote:vern wrote:Yes, I understand the rules are there for a reason, that being to make things clear. My point is that in this instance, it is obviously clear without using google to look up obscure rules the preponderance of readers and writers have no idea exist. That is going beyond what I dare say any publisher/editor would be concerned within the context of a story. But if someone is looking for that technical detail in a review then they are well beyond anything I could offer or would seek on this site.
I do wish this had come up before the clarification that cheetahs don't roar because that is precisely what I was going for. When we overlook a factual error, contradictions, plot holes, transitions, etc. in our search for technical fault, that is a case of sticking to rules to the detriment of creative writing imho. Take care. Vern
The structure of that sentence is what I thought you were going for when you started the discussion, since it was flawed. (The sentence structure, not the discussion. That's one example of what I mean.
) I agree that an isolated sentence like the one you proposed is not likely to raise the concern of editors - though they would likely correct it - or cause readers to shake their heads in confusion. But if I had the time on this Sunday of March Madness and Tiger in the hunt at Bay Hill, I would give you more examples to show why sticking to proper construction is important for clarity.
I also am wandering in from watchin Tiger in the hunt -- but not so much any more after that last bogey -- and I agree the sentence structure would be a problem if the meaning were not clear, but when it is absolutely clear without defying logic, then the precise sentence structure becomes a non-issue, countless examples where it is not clear notwithstanding, imho. Take care. Vern
Tiger's hunt ended with the OB drive, and now he's lost his enthusiasm. But UNC is playing for the Sweet Sixteen, and I'm not going to convince you anyway, so I'm outta here.
190 2018-03-18 19:40:44
Re: A different critique (34 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Lynne Clark wrote:jack the knife wrote:The rules of sentence structure regarding antecedents are there for a reason: to avoid ambiguity in every instance, not just berry-picking examples. In the given sentence, it's fairly obvious the cheetah is the antecedent, but structurally, it isn't. Excusing this because the meaning should be clear here ignores countless other instances where the meaning is not clear and gives a pass to sloppy sentence construction. Next subject: dangling participles.
*wanders onto Google to look up antecedents...*
Yes, I understand the rules are there for a reason, that being to make things clear. My point is that in this instance, it is obviously clear without using google to look up obscure rules the preponderance of readers and writers have no idea exist. That is going beyond what I dare say any publisher/editor would be concerned within the context of a story. But if someone is looking for that technical detail in a review then they are well beyond anything I could offer or would seek on this site.
I do wish this had come up before the clarification that cheetahs don't roar because that is precisely what I was going for. When we overlook a factual error, contradictions, plot holes, transitions, etc. in our search for technical fault, that is a case of sticking to rules to the detriment of creative writing imho. Take care. Vern
The structure of that sentence is what I thought you were going for when you started the discussion, since it was flawed. (The sentence structure, not the discussion. That's one example of what I mean. ) I agree that an isolated sentence like the one you proposed is not likely to raise the concern of editors - though they would likely correct it - or cause readers to shake their heads in confusion. But if I had the time on this Sunday of March Madness and Tiger in the hunt at Bay Hill, I would give you more examples to show why sticking to proper construction is important for clarity.
191 2018-03-18 17:16:02
Re: A different critique (34 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
jack the knife wrote:Ignoring whether a cheetah does or does not roar, the given sentence is problematic in its construction. "Its" refers to the cheetah, obviously, but the subject of the opening clause is "roar," so "its" could be referring to the antecedent "roar," which of course is nonsensical. Replacing "a cheetah" with "the cheetah" helps a little but doesn't resolve the issue. The solution I'd propose in my in-line: The cheetah roared, startling me as I snapped its picture. This makes "cheetah" the unambiguous antecedent of "its."
As you state, "its" obviously refers to the cheetah, so, I suppose if anyone would attribute "its" to a roar having its picture taken, then we can throw all logic and the rules governing such out the window. I did consider the "a vs the" situation, but ultimately decided it had no consequence in the grand scheme of things. Nothing wrong per se with rearranging other than "startling me" is a bit less dramatic imo. Take care. Vern
The rules of sentence structure regarding antecedents are there for a reason: to avoid ambiguity in every instance, not just berry-picking examples. In the given sentence, it's fairly obvious the cheetah is the antecedent, but structurally, it isn't. Excusing this because the meaning should be clear here ignores countless other instances where the meaning is not clear and gives a pass to sloppy sentence construction. Next subject: dangling participles.
192 2018-03-18 15:03:05
Re: A different critique (34 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Ignoring whether a cheetah does or does not roar, the given sentence is problematic in its construction. "Its" refers to the cheetah, obviously, but the subject of the opening clause is "roar," so "its" could be referring to the antecedent "roar," which of course is nonsensical. Replacing "a cheetah" with "the cheetah" helps a little but doesn't resolve the issue. The solution I'd propose in my in-line: The cheetah roared, startling me as I snapped its picture. This makes "cheetah" the unambiguous antecedent of "its."
193 2018-03-12 22:02:05
Re: Temporary hiatus (9 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Thanks, all. I'm still here, though not as frequently as before. I do check the Home page daily looking for new stories and new postings of stories I've started reviewing.
194 2018-03-12 00:36:06
Topic: Temporary hiatus (9 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I've dismantled my latest novel from the site, due to its publication. I don't have a new one yet to start posting, but I'll be lurking in the wings to review novels on TNBW that tickle my fancy. N.B.: Whenever a member gets their book published, they should announce that in the Forum so that other members can see the result of hard work and get encouraged to continue with their dream as a part of this writing community.
195 2018-03-05 22:17:21
Re: Collective Nouns - Married couple. (30 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
It depends on the context. https://afterdeadline.blogs.nytimes.com … -pick-one/
196 2018-02-23 13:01:44
Re: What's With Some of the New Members (89 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
jack the knife wrote:. My question to you - who admits being a reader, not a writer - why do you pony up the yearly fee just to read WIPs, some of which will never be completed? Your post puzzled me, so I felt compelled to respond. Besides you, there have been a few, I guess, though I can only remember one - Porgy - who only read and reviewed and didn't post. So why do you do it, William? This inquiring mind wants to know.
To more concisely answer the direct questions you pose.
Why does an audience watch a band perform? Is the drummer baffled, wondering why the audience are not all at home in their garages playing the drums themselves?
Is the author whose novel I purchased in the bookstore on Saturday wondering why the hell do all these thousands of readers buy my book rather than write one themselves?
I am an avid reader. I’ve read everything classic, contemporary and commercial on every ‘top ten’ ‘top fifty’ and ‘top one hundred’ books you should read list, which I’ve ever read.
I don’t think that a writer should be surprised to discover that readers exist and are out there eager to consume good writing.
I think that several writers here on tNBW need to learn how to write for a reader rather than for another writer.
My bad, William. I assumed - wrongly - that you were a paying member.
197 2018-02-22 23:30:00
Re: What's With Some of the New Members (89 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Well, William, you've been a member a year longer than I. I don't know if you ever read any of my novels posted here, but I don't remember receiving a review from you. We're talking 10 years, though, so perhaps I'm wrong, and you may be right about us not knowing how much you have staked us out. My question to you - who admits being a reader, not a writer - why do you pony up the yearly fee just to read WIPs, some of which will never be completed? Your post puzzled me, so I felt compelled to respond. Besides you, there have been a few, I guess, though I can only remember one - Porgy - who only read and reviewed and didn't post. So why do you do it, William? This inquiring mind wants to know.
198 2018-02-22 00:30:46
Re: My new WIP novel, "The Battle for Control" (18 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Jeez, did he pay his admission fee?
199 2018-02-18 01:09:02
Re: SHOOTINGS AND THE SHIT THAT FOLLOWS... (36 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Liberty has constraints. Your freedom to throw your fist out stops when it meets my face. You can't dump hazardous wastes into water supplies. You can't drive without seat belts or ride a Harley without a helmet without incurring a penalty. We live in a society, where the rights of all have to be considered. You can buy weapons, but not buy machine guns. Is it such a stretch that buying other weapons of mass destruction should be banned? For the public good? The wording of the Second Amendment can be debated until the cows come home, but the precedent (SCOTUS) has been established that one does not have a Constitutional right to have military-type people-killers. That mass -shooting incidents are a price we pay for "liberty" (Bill O'Reilly) is absurd. We, as a society, have established rules and regulations in other areas of our contract with each other. Why gun ownership should have no constraints, as opposed to any other aspect of our compact as a civilization, defies logic.
200 2018-02-15 21:46:25
Re: POP COP QUIZ # 38 Lovers on the Lam (3 replies, posted in Cop Shop)
JeeZ! I can't answer any of them at first blush. And Googling it wouldn't be fair. I thought I knew all of Juliette Lewis's and Goldie Hawn's films, but I guess I didn't.