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jack the knife wrote:

I used to like Clive Cussler's books. I still like the imaginative stories, but I find it hard to read them as literature anymore. His dialogue tag and POV errors, as well as his penchant for adverb modifiers,  distract me from the story.

Ha!  I just finished Clive's 'Raise the Titanic' and I couldn't enjoy it for those very reasons.  I read it years ago but decided to refresh my memory.

Another thing that annoys me:  classified ads.  I read one this morning in a newspaper:  For Sale:  White woman's purse.

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For anyone who needs this, here’s a great link to a website that can help you when you’re in a bind over how to punctuate, or which word to use.  I know some of you don’t need it and never make mistakes, but it’s a good reference for new writers or for those who want to brush up on grammar rules you may have forgotten, like myself.

https://www.grammar-monster.com/

It covers things on this list:
1.     Punctuation:  Apostrophes, colons, commas, dashes, hyphens, parentheses, semicolons, speech marks
2.    Punctuation test
3.    A widget for learning possessive apostrophes
4.    The parts of speech:  adjectives, adverbs, conjunctions, interjections, nouns, pronouns, verbs
5.    Parts of speech test
6.    A widget for learning about the order of adjectives
7.    Easily confused words, such as advice and advise, passed and past, complement and compliment, further and farther, etc.
8.    Glossary of terms
9.    Origins of sayings and proverbs
10.    Interactive tests for you to take to improve your writing.

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Sideman wrote:

Second, and the primary reason I don't post a lot, is no matter what you say, there's always someone who can't wait to tell you how stupid you are for saying whatever you said or whatever you asked. Polite disagreement is an endangered species. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a person disagreeing with you or having a different opinion. It's the manner in which they express it. A person with a different opinion than mine is welcome to tell me all day why - just do it with a little bit of courtesy


I 100% agree with you, Alan.  I have all but quit posting in forums because we have some self-appointed forum monitors who take it upon themselves to comment on things that don't apply to them.  If I read a post that doesn't pertain to me in any way, I move on without commenting.  Not true for some who can't let an opportunity pass by without trying to show their superior intelligence in a condescending way.  But since I don't participate in confrontations and insults because I have better things to do with my life, often I will just delete my post with a promise to myself to never post again.  As you said, an ounce of courtesy goes a long way.  And I'm not talking about writing reviews here, but forum posts.  While I love a good healthy discussion and thrive on differences of opinion and/or suggestions, I don't like condescension.  I've seen too many longstanding and good members here cancel their memberships because of these forums that got out of hand.

So to answer JP's call for opinions, mine for what it's worth is the forums haven't worked for me because of the reasons above.  Therefore, I quit posting in all of them except this premium one, and it's headed for the chopping block, too. 

MJ

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Using 'look' repeatedly is like having a nervous twitch.  You do it when you can't think of anything else to say, or when the room fills with silence.  In this case, when your writing hits a wall.  Instead of saying 'I looked at his face' you can use 'I canvassed his face.'  I contemplated his face.  I cross-examined his face.  Eyes don't have to be mentioned.

Yes, writing does require understanding.  This is not meant as a menu of words to choose from.  It's making you aware of how often you use 'look.'

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https://kathysteinemann.com/Musings/shake-the-head/

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Ever get hung up on look?  He looked, she looks, I looked.

For those who need a little variety in your life, this may help. 

https://kathysteinemann.com/Musings/125 … -say-look/

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Hi, L.A. and welcome to the site.  Posting your first chapter is always the hardest, but I suggest you jump in and see how it goes. You'd be surprised how much my writing improved after joining in 2008.  We're all here to help.  So before your trial period is up, take the plunge and we'll all offer our suggestions (if needed).  Good luck, and we're looking forward to reading your story.

Cheers,
MJ

This may help you by using a process of elimination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_writing_genres

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Every writer goes through this.  Periods of self-doubt are building blocks to see how sincere you are.  Or at least they are for me.  When I get to that point, I close what I'm working so hard on and write something light.  Something far removed from the one story or chapter that weighed me down.  Variety helps.  Then, if all else fails, a big shot of tequila works magic!  (just kidding!)

You're not alone with your feelings.  There are times when I open my manuscripts and wonder what I was thinking when I wrote that.  I let someone else read it, someone I trust to tell me the truth, and then go back to the drawing board and either start over, or delete sections that don't feel or sound right.  As I shared with you in a review, there is never a time when a writer is completely 'finished' with their stories.  If I think I'm finished, all I have to do is open that word document, and every single time I make changes.  Maybe small changes, but changes nonetheless.

A sign of a good writer is always thinking there's room for improvement!  You will have self-doubt days, and writer block days.  They disappear because writing is in your blood.  You didn't become a good driver overnight.  It took time and practice before you felt confident enough to pull out of the driveway and face other drivers.  Now, as the years have gone by, you don't even think of your driving abilities.  You just drive.  Same for writing.  Just write!

Cheers,
MJ

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Dirk B. wrote:

You can also check out Fiverr for freelance editors. I decided to submit my first two chapters ($100 for 10,000 words) as a trial. Turnaround is approximately 10 days. I'll let you know how it turns out. There are multiple editors on the site with different levels of experience, although not all edit fiction.

I did freelance editing for Fiverr for a couple of years.  Just make sure you hire someone who speaks English as their native tongue.  Many of them are from other countries and aren't familiar with American customs.  If you look at their profile, you can learn where they're located and normally what their native language is.

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Wow!  Congratulations, Randy!  I am so very happy for you.  What an honor!

Cheers,
MJ

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Congratulations, Roxanne, Ann, and Brian!  Well-done! 

MJ

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

Can someone please help me with the following sentence:

Teresa thought they might have more landing areas closer to the centre, but couldn’t make any out.

Unless I'm mistaken, the second clause is dependent. So why the comma?

Thanks
Dirk

C.  separating a preceding dependent clause from the main clause (“Depending on the size of the entrée, I might not order dessert”)

It falls under C above in the original thread post, but in your case the dependent clause is at the end of the sentence.  It works the same.

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

My version of Microsoft Word (2007) replaces three periods with an ellipsis symbol. It looks almost the same, but it's one character. I can't recall if I configured the software to do that, but I'm sure they have the same feature in newer versions of Word.

Ah!  I'm using the 2013 version, but haven't noticed that feature.  Maybe I'd better take another look.  (But then again, it only takes half a second to do ... )

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jack the knife wrote:

Not sure what Marilyn meant by an ellipsis symbol (other than dots). I tried looking it up and got nowhere. And to my mind, using a symbol of some sort instead would confuse most readers, so why bother?

All of the info came from Daily Writing Tips, which is emailed to me daily.  They always have some great tips, so I copied and pasted their info here for those who don't subscribe to it.  I think they were referring to the dots as the 'symbol.'  At least that's how I took it since there is no other ellipsis symbol that comes to mind.

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From today's Daily Writing Tips for anyone interested:

A Guide to Internal Punctuation

Posted: 22 May 2018 04:01 AM PDT

This post outlines the functions of punctuation marks employed within a sentence: the comma, the semicolon, the colon, and ellipses.

Comma
A comma performs a number of functions, including

A.  setting off elements of a list (“I’m going to order soup, salad, and an entrée”)
B.  combining with a conjunction to separate two independent clauses (“She ordered dinner, but she declined the dessert menu”)
C.  separating a preceding dependent clause from the main clause (“Depending on the size of the entrée, I might not order dessert”)
D.  separating a nonrestrictive relative clause from the main clause (“We were overwhelmed by the menu, which was six pages long”)
E.  setting off an adverb from the main clause (“Ordinarily, I would not order dessert”; “I would, ordinarily, not order dessert”; “I would not order dessert, ordinarily”)
F.  framing parenthetical phrases (“I will, just this once, order dessert”)
G.  setting off an appositive (“My favorite dessert, cheesecake, is missing from the menu”)
H.  setting off coordinate adjectives (“I feel like having a big, thick slice of cheesecake for dessert”)
I.  setting off an attribution from a quotation (“My friend said, ‘I’m going to order dessert’”)
J.  setting off one or more words identifying the subject of direct address (“John, are you going to order dessert?”)
K.  setting off a date from a year and parenthesizing the year (“January 1, 2018, dawned just like any other day”)
L.  setting off a city name from a state or country name and parenthesizing the state or country name (“Lebanon, Kansas, is the geographic center of the contiguous United States”)
M.  setting off a surname from a given name when the first-name, last-name order is inverted (“She is listed as ‘Doe, Jane’”)
N.  indicating ellipsis of one or more words (“Everything was as I remembered it—the church was white, the barn, red”).

A comma should not separate a subject and a verb (as in the erroneous sentence “The tiramisu, is sublime”) except when it is closing a parenthetical phrase (“The tiramisu, as expected, is sublime”) or setting off repetition of a verb (“What it is, is sublime”). Likewise, a verb and its direct object should not be split asunder (as shown in the incorrectly punctuated sentence “She intuitively grasped, that she was in trouble.”)

Another error that involves a comma is a comma splice, in which a comma, rather than a stronger punctuation mark such as a semicolon or a dash, appears between two independent clauses not separated by a conjunction, as in “You see a half-empty glass, I see a half-full one.” (An exception can be made for brief declarations, as in Julius Caesar’s famous summary “I came, I saw, I conquered.”)

Semicolon
The semicolon has two primary functions. First, it unites two closely related independent clauses, as in “You see a half-empty glass; I see a half-full one.” (In such cases, it takes the place of a period or a conjunction; including both a semicolon and a conjunction is an error.) Second, it replaces two or more commas in an in-line list (a list with a sentence) when one or more of the list items itself includes commas, as in “The names, as listed, are Doe, Jane; Jones, William; and Smith, John” or “I spotted many squirrels; several deer; and a hawk, an osprey, and a heron.” (If the list organization is obvious, as when list items begin with distinct verbs, commas may be employed, as in “She shopped at the supermarket, visited the bank and the credit union, and ran errands at the hardware store, the drugstore, and the dry cleaner’s.”)

Earlier usage included setting off coordinate clauses in complex sentences or to otherwise signal a more pronounced pause than a comma would suggest, but these approaches, especially the former, are outdated.

In quoted material, a semicolon always follows a close quotation mark. Also, the mark may seem too formal in the midst of a sentence in quotation marks; a dash more clearly conveys a transition to a separate assertion or idea, as in “Mary said, ‘Don’t go in the abandoned house—it’s not safe in there’” rather than “Mary said, ‘Don’t go in the abandoned house; it’s not safe in there.’”

Colon
A colon precedes

A.  quoted material set up by a complete statement rather than an attribution (“His reply was succinct: ‘Not a chance’”)
B.  an explanation (“We declined the invitation primarily for one reason: He insists on driving, and we don’t feel safe as his passengers”)
C.  a list (“The meal consists of the following courses: appetizer, salad, entrée, and dessert”).

It is also employed between pairs of numbers to represent ratios (“The results indicate a 5:3 ratio”)
in references to time (“The next train is at 1:35”)
in numerical representations of elapsed time (“The record stands at 3:26.00”)
when citing biblical verses (“John 3:16 expresses the same sentiment”).

A colon also separates a book’s title and subtitle or, in bibliographies, the city where a publisher is located and the name of the publisher. In formal writing, it follows the salutation.


Ellipses
Ellipsis means “omission,” but it primarily refers to a succession of three periods, called ellipses, usually interspersed with letter spaces, or a single symbol representing three periods. Style guides differ in which form is preferred, but the ellipsis symbol looks cramped, and use of ellipses (a series of periods) is more visually pleasing.

Ellipses represent omission of one or more words in the middle of a sentence (“A friend . . . knows all about you and still loves you”); generally, they are unnecessary when omitting what precedes a partial quotation.

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Strange how things affect people differently.  When someone tells me I should consider turning my short story into a novel, I am delighted to hear it because it gives me hope that the reviewer REALLY liked it and would love to read more.  Then it gets my creative juices flowing and makes me consider the possibility.

Many novels were started as short stories.  Virginia Woolf's 'Mrs. Dalloway' started out as a short story called 'Mrs. Dalloway in Bond Street.'  Jhumpa Lahiri's novel 'The Namesake' started out as a short story called 'Gogo!'  Even 'Lassie' started out as Eric Knight's 'Lassie Come Home.'

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Dallas Wright wrote:
Norm d'Plume wrote:

Marilyn, I went to site and, when I tried to sign up, it said the site was free to use for 15 days, after which you either have to subscribe monthly or yearly. I couldn't find a free version.

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/?feed=rss2
Just put it in your newsfeed and it gives you the daily tip.

Thanks, Dallas.  It's been so long since I signed up I couldn't remember how I'd done it.  I've been getting this daily feed for a good 5 years, maybe longer.

Here's the email link"  https://www.dailywritingtips.com/welcom … ting-tips/

Hope that helped, Norm.

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Some of you may already subscribe to this site.  They send you writing rules and suggestions daily if you sign up with them (it's free).  This one came this morning, and I thought it might be helpful for some folks.

https://www.dailywritingtips.com/10-way … e-concise/

10 Ways to Render Sentences More Concise
By Mark Nichol
This post details various strategies for reducing and simplifying sentences.

1. Sentence Combination
Avoid consecutive sentences that end and begin, respectively, with the same word or phrase as occurs here:

        A common way to track the current state of systems is monitoring performance metrics. Performance metrics show how assets are performing at
        the transaction level.

In such cases, replace the period between them with a comma and delete the second iteration of the word or phrase with which: “A common way to track the current state of systems is monitoring performance metrics, which show how assets are performing at the transaction level.”

2. Condensing by Subordination
When a sentence includes two consecutive verb phrases, consider converting one to a subordinate clause. For example, note how the subject of this sentence is followed by two statements of fact:

        The renowned tea is a symbol of the city’s gracious hospitality and is often served in a glass to display its jade-green color.

The first statement can easily be subsumed into the main clause as a parenthetical phrase:         “The renowned tea, a symbol of the city’s gracious hospitality, is often served in a glass to display its jade-green color.”

3. Integration of Clauses
Here, an introductory subordinate clause sets up an unnecessarily wordy sentence:

        For health care entities with similar classes of customers, they may be able to reduce the overall evaluation effort by applying the portfolio approach.

The clause is easily integrated into the main clause by omitting for and treating “health care entities,” rather than they, as the sentence’s subject:         “Health care entities with similar classes of customers may be able to reduce the overall evaluation effort by applying the portfolio approach.”

4. Denominalization
Nominalization is the complication of prose by using nouns when employing the verb form of that noun, or revising the sentence to eliminate the need for a noun, produces more clear, concise prose; nouns, of course, are integral to prose but, especially in the case of formal nouns with such elements as -ation, they can be abused in the service of conveying authority. This sentence is not overly formal, but it is wordier than necessary:

        Furthermore, companies are taking backups of the production applications and storing them for indefinite periods.

Denominalization—literally, “unnaming”—is simply a fancy way of saying “rephrasing to eliminate nouns.” Note that in this sentence, the noun backups can be converted to a verb, rendering the verb taking superfluous, and the final phrase can be condensed by transforming the adjective indefinite into an adverb, which enables deletion of the noun periods:         “Furthermore, companies are backing up the production applications and storing them indefinitely.”

The following sentence is an example of a statement with a double-decker nominalization:

        Management may find it beneficial to engage in a dialogue on a periodic basis regarding the organization’s policy.

As in the previous example, one word easily replaces a phrase—“on a periodic basis” can be reduced to periodically:         “Management may find it beneficial to periodically engage in a dialogue regarding the organization’s policy.”

But further reduction is achieved by replacing the phrase “engage in a dialogue” with a synonymous word:         “Management may find it beneficial to periodically discuss the organization’s policy.”

5. Employing Terms Rather Than Definitions
One strategy to achieve conciseness is to avoid describing something by defining it; note the explanation in the following sentence:

        He was prone to making embarrassing mistakes in public.

Here, the person’s behavior can be described with a term that embodies the definition:         “He was prone to committing faux pas.”

6. Deletion of Expletives
The expletives “there is” and “there are” are poor substitutes for a strong subject; note how the following sentence gets off to a weak start:

        There are few, if any, finance and accounting departments that are not experiencing some form of extreme change.

Expletives need not be excised in every case, but minimize their use by deleting such phrases in favor of the definite noun or noun phrase that follows (and delete the associated that that appears later in the sentence):         “Few, if any, finance and accounting departments are not experiencing some form of extreme change.”

7. Avoiding Tautology
Tautology is redundancy or repetition, such as shown here:

Could you repeat that again?

To repeat is to do something again, so this sentence is equivalent to “Could you say that again again?” Indicate the action one way or another: “Could you say that again?” or, more concisely, “Could you repeat that?”

8. Using Brief Modifiers
When modifying a noun to provide more information about it, use a preceding adjective or phrasal adjective rather than an extended phrase following the noun. The following sentence demonstrates use of a verbose modifying phrase:

        She offered an explanation that was brief and to the point.

This sentence can be tightened up by locating the description of the explanation before the noun:         “She offered a brief, to-the-point explanation.”

9. Excising Single Words
Sometimes, reducing a sentence by just one word improves it, as shown in the following examples:

        Rather than assessing all of the contracts, select a representative sample to assess.

In the phrase “all of,” of is generally superfluous:         “Rather than assessing all the contracts, select a representative sample to assess.”

        How is technology helping to change the way elderly people are cared for?

In the phrase “helping to,” to is extraneous:         “How is technology helping change the way elderly people are cared for?”

        That is the most annoying error I have ever seen, and also the most prevalent.

Also, when it immediately follows and, is redundant:         “That is the most annoying error I have ever seen, and the most prevalent.”

10. Avoiding Prolixity

Refrain from florid, verbose descriptions. The following sentence is an extreme example of self-indulgent wordiness, but unless one is deliberately prolix in the service of humor, be vigilant about reining in excessively ornate prose:

One might with the utmost confidence essay to prevail in a debate in which one asserts that possessing one’s own means of vehicular conveyance offers one greater flexibility than public transportation provides in the matter of travel to one’s place of learning or employment or to social occasions.

Pare such overly complicated composition: “It’s easy to win an argument that having one’s own car makes it easier to get to school or work or to meet friends than if one uses public transportation.”


ADDED INFO:  Here's the sign-up link for the free daily email:  https://www.dailywritingtips.com/welcom … ting-tips/

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Sideman wrote:

I agree with what both of you are staying. Marilyn, here in Decatur, Alabama, folks often say, when you ask where someone lives, "Oh, he stays over on third Street, just down the block from the Baptist Church." It's part of their vernacular. My former mother-in-law lived in Richmond, VA. She'd say, "Alan, can you carry me to the store, my car's not running very good."

I've decided to write as my characters would speak, given their culture and location. Here in Northern Alabama, about half of all sentences start with "I'ma fixin' to ..." as in "I'ma fixin' to go to the store. Can I pick up anything for you while I'm there?" Seriously, it's probably the most common start to a sentence in the area.

Another one I hear almost everywhere is making a noun into a verb. I've been in the music biz all my life. I recently had a guitar repaired. I called and asked if it was almost finished. His answer"  "We're efforting to have it done by tomorrow." Hmmm. I always thought it was We're making an effort to ..."

Alan

At least you got fixin' to.  Here in Georgia it's fittin' to, as in Ima fittin' to go to th' store.  I grew up in the deep south, so southern dialect is embedded in my brain.  However, proper use of the English language is, too.  Strange, though, is when I hear someone with a deep southern drawl, I cringe.

And speaking of Southern, have you heard the Malpass Brothers talk?  They've come on the scene as a traditional bluegrass/country duo, and listening to them talk is comical in its own way.

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Or when they add -ed at the end and need a different word instead.  "I winded up going to the party anyway." 
Another pet peeve for me is stays vs. lives.  "She stays at 101 Main Street."
Not to mention:
Your vs. you're
It's vs. its
There vs. their

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wordsmith wrote:

Hello, ladies and gents. It has been years since I've been a member, but here I am again. Looking forward to reading and reviewing as I'm starting a new book and thought I could use some eyes other than my own before I go much further.

Not sure who is writing now, but I'll hop around and familiarize myself with the site.

Hi, wordsmith!
It's good to have you back with all us 'oldies but goodies.'  Can't wait for your new postings.  I always enjoyed everything you wrote.  Glad you're here!

Cheers,
MJ

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Cow ponies are not classified as a breed.  They're smaller, more agile horses used by cowboys to help herd their cows.  Their breed is likely quarter horse, but not necessarily so.  A Welsh Cob could also become a good cow pony.  They could also be a mixed breed.  Any horse who can keep up with a herd and keep them in line could be referred to as a cow pony.

Hope that helped!!
MJ

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Linda Lee wrote:

My main horse was CRAZY about red licorice and cola. I didn't give her either very often, but if she caught a whiff of licorice, she'd go nuts trying to get it.

Mine go nuts over peppermint.  No matter the form.  They love the long peppermint sticks or the individually wrapped ones, but if you approach chewing peppermint gum, you get lots of kisses and question marks in their eyes!  "Where's mine?"  If I have peppermint in my pocket, they follow and nudge until I relent!  Even if I wear a jacket that had peppermint in the pocket two weeks ago, they still smell it.

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Kdot wrote:

This clever horse has gotten into one of the character's packs and devoured the humans' dinner. I just need to finesse what's left of it when they catch the rascal. I figure, based on what you say, we'd see a pile of cobs lying around and horse working on the last few ears.

Then I'd say your assumption of the corn cobs would be accurate.  About the only thing a horse won't eat is meat of any kind.  They love apples, watermelon, cantaloupe, pickles, bread, cookies, candy (except chocolate).  Some  of them will drink beer, sodas, eat ice.  So I think you have a wide range of silliness to choose from for that horse.  And most of them love peanut butter, but it gets stuck in the roof of their mouth and they are really comical trying to get it out.