Thanks, Mariana, for your input. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. In other words, it may be just a coincidence.
726 2016-07-13 18:40:58
Re: Gender Divide in the Rhiannon Novels (12 replies, posted in Close friends)
727 2016-07-13 16:36:39
Topic: Gender Divide in the Rhiannon Novels (12 replies, posted in Close friends)
Although I've had terrific reviews from both genders, I've noticed males seem to like Jeb & Rhia: the Love Story, and females are more represented among reviewers in the New Fairy story. I speculated to John Hamler that maybe men like the sexy ingenue and women like the kick-ass adventurer. This is important because the love story was meant to be a romance, and how many men do you know who read romances? (Or admit it, anyway.) So what do you think? Is the Love Story more appealing to men and the Adventure/Quest story more appealing to women, in contradiction of conventional wisdom about these things? If so, what, if anything, should I do about that? As usual, any and all feedback is welcome.
728 2016-07-13 16:33:28
Topic: Gender Divide in the Rhiannon Novels (7 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Although I've had terrific reviews from both genders, I've noticed males seem to like Jeb & Rhia: the Love Story, and females are more represented among reviewers in the New Fairy story. I speculated to John Hamler that maybe men like the sexy ingenue and women like the kick-ass adventurer. This is important because the love story was meant to be a romance, and how many men do you know who read romances? (Or admit it, anyway.) So what do you think? Is the Love Story more appealing to men and the Adventure/Quest story more appealing to women, in contradiction of conventional wisdom about these things? If so, what, if anything, should I do about that? As usual, any and all feedback is welcome.
729 2016-07-13 16:14:18
Topic: Gender Divide in the Rhiannon Novels (1 replies, posted in Additional Writing Feedback)
Although I've had terrific reviews from both genders, I've noticed males seem to like Jeb & Rhia: the Love Story, and females are more represented among reviewers in the New Fairy story. I speculated to John Hamler that maybe men like the sexy ingenue and women like the kick-ass adventurer. This is important because the love story was meant to be a romance, and how many men do you know who read romances? (Or admit it, anyway.) So what do you think? is the Love Story more appealing to men and the Adventure/Quest story more appealing to women, in contradiction of conventional wisdom about these things? If so, what, if anything, should I do about that? As usual, any and all feedback is welcome.
730 2016-07-12 05:01:41
Re: Strongest Start 2016 Finalists (17 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I am stunned and honored just to be mentioned in such fine company.
Beneath the Silver Rose has been my passion for over 6 years. I have despaired, rejoiced, given up and charged ahead so many times, I've lost count--and sometimes in the same afternoon.
Special thanks to those who read and offered their insights.
I knew you from the old site, and have watched you grow. Congrats to be in the finalists. Now, go and get it published and become the next George R.R. Martin. I can say this with good will, as I don't plan to be the next GRRM, just the next Fritz Leiber.
Hugs
731 2016-07-12 04:49:10
Re: Strongest Start 2016 Finalists (17 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Congrats to the finalists.
732 2016-07-09 22:24:42
Re: Map of New Fairy (2 replies, posted in Additional Writing Feedback)
Hey Rhiannon,
I created a map for my world too. It really helps to keep things into perspective, and I found I had to make changes in the book based on where everything was situated. You add a scale for distance and realize you had your characters covering hundreds of miles in a single day (on foot) and taking forever to go a short distance. I also had roads meeting where they couldn't possibly. I would recommend both time lines and maps to every writer.
CJ
I haven't worked out all the details of scale, but I haven't had that problem yet. In fact, the map is partly based on people's travels, but yeah, I share your experience. Like I said, I had to divide a river into a fork, add a bridge, and rearrange a kingdom. I realized what the port was that Rhiannon took refuge in, given the Delta and other aspects of the coast. It also helps verisimilitude, more important in my genre than yours, but important even if you're writing surrealism, imo.
733 2016-07-09 19:40:32
Topic: Map of New Fairy (2 replies, posted in Additional Writing Feedback)
Hey, a map is in need of feedback too. I re-posted this from the "Close Friends" group. I thought it might be of interest.
I noticed as I put things on the map that the major river, the Severn, had to be divided into two branches to make any kind of sense at all. I had it one branch that went through New Dyved, making a coastline for that kingdom, then, on the other side, a way to the sea for New Fairy merchants. This didn't work, as the humans in New Dyved would be stymied by the Mists of Llyr. So right before the Bright (or Enchanted) Forest, it branches into an east and west tributary. Another problem came about when I had troops move from east to west. Of course the Western Severn would be right in their way. So now there is a Roman style bridge, and, not to give away too much, a battle on it. I had a kingdom right next to another kingdom, when it's in the west and the other was in the east. Another difference, although not so much for these stories, is I had in mind England when I had the kingdom of New Prydain, but it looks a lot more like Chile now. (lol) The map, once you see it will look like it's on its side: although it doesn't play much of a role in the story, originally all of this took place on Uranus, and Uranus is "on its side," i.e., it's magnetic poles would be west and east, so the upper part of Dareau is the west the lower part, the East, the North and South are reoriented accordingly. The map making made me realize where The Minnow was--it had to be bayed in the Delta. So now, there's a nice description of the Delta, with some hints that Rhiannon's narrative is a bit naive when she fails to realize just what kind of port the Delta is, and what that would mean about her father.
It's at my Flickr account, which is Rachel Parsons. You will have to have a Flickr account to see it, but that's easy: get a yahoo mail account, and then join Flickr My account is considered unsafe, i.e., adult, so you will have to have that maturity rating to see it. You will learn some things from the map: where everything is in that part of Dareau, how forested New Fairy is, that it's a world 'on its side,' and why I don't teach handwriting or map making. It really helped me to get it ready for view, and I modified my stories accordingly. I changed the location of a kingdom, which doesn't play much of a role in this novel but will in the future, diverted the Severn, a river the width of a Great Lake, into two tributaries, and built a bridge where none had been before. You may have to consult the story to figure out my handwriting, sort of a Rosetta stone to my scribbling. It is best seen with the Firefox viewer, as that allows you to zoom. Things are clearer in large print. Trust me on this. lol
734 2016-07-09 19:38:23
Topic: Map of New Fairy (0 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I'm re-posting this from the "Close Friends" group. I can be thought of as a writing tip.
I noticed as I put things on the map that the major river, the Severn, had to be divided into two branches to make any kind of sense at all. I had it one branch that went through New Dyved, making a coastline for that kingdom, then, on the other side, a way to the sea for New Fairy merchants. This didn't work, as the humans in New Dyved would be stymied by the Mists of Llyr. So right before the Bright (or Enchanted) Forest, it branches into an east and west tributary. Another problem came about when I had troops move from east to west. Of course the Western Severn would be right in their way. So now there is a Roman style bridge, and, not to give away too much, a battle on it. I had a kingdom right next to another kingdom, when it's in the west and the other was in the east. Another difference, although not so much for these stories, is I had in mind England when I had the kingdom of New Prydain, but it looks a lot more like Chile now. (lol) The map, once you see it will look like it's on its side: although it doesn't play much of a role in the story, originally all of this took place on Uranus, and Uranus is "on its side," i.e., it's magnetic poles would be west and east, so the upper part of Dareau is the west the lower part, the East, the North and South are reoriented accordingly. The map making made me realize where The Minnow was--it had to be bayed in the Delta. So now, there's a nice description of the Delta, with some hints that Rhiannon's narrative is a bit naive when she fails to realize just what kind of port the Delta is, and what that would mean about her father.
It's at my Flickr account, which is Rachel Parsons. You will have to have a Flickr account to see it, but that's easy: get a yahoo mail account, and then join Flickr My account is considered unsafe, i.e., adult, so you will have to have that maturity rating to see it. You will learn some things from the map: where everything is in that part of Dareau, how forested New Fairy is, that it's a world 'on its side,' and why I don't teach handwriting or map making. It really helped me to get it ready for view, and I modified my stories accordingly. I changed the location of a kingdom, which doesn't play much of a role in this novel but will in the future, diverted the Severn, a river the width of a Great Lake, into two tributaries, and built a bridge where none had been before. You may have to consult the story to figure out my handwriting, sort of a Rosetta stone to my scribbling. It is best seen with the Firefox viewer, as that allows you to zoom. Things are clearer in large print. Trust me on this. lol
735 2016-07-09 15:59:27
Re: Why no erotic group? (4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
There's no erotic group as we're all too busy writing to have sex.
736 2016-07-09 15:58:13
Re: Question for the community: Male writers writing F/F books (31 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
One of the greatest trashy romance writers, read by millions of women, is a man. I met him; he used to live in my town. Overweight, middle-aged guy, but he knows his stuff.
737 2016-07-08 22:37:47
Re: WIP Rhiannon the Nude, Vol 2: New Fairy by Rhiannon (123 replies, posted in Close friends)
MAP OF NEW FAIRY POSTED
It's at my Flickr account, which is Rachel Parsons. You will have to have a Flickr account to see it, but that's easy: get a yahoo mail account, and then join Flickr My account is considered unsafe, i.e., adult, so you will have to have that maturity rating to see it. You will learn some things from the map: where everything is in that part of Dareau, how forested New Fairy is, that it's a world 'on its side,' and why I don't teach handwriting or map making. It really helped me to get it ready for view, and I modified my stories accordingly. I changed the location of a kingdom, which doesn't play much of a role in this novel but will in the future, diverted the Severn, a river the width of a Great Lake, into two tributaries, and built a bridge where none had been before. You may have to consult the story to figure out my handwriting, sort of a Rosetta stone to my scribbling. It is best seen with the Firefox viewer, as that allows you to zoom. Things are clearer in large print. Trust me on this. lol
738 2016-07-08 21:48:32
Re: WIP Rhiannon the Nude, Vol 2: New Fairy by Rhiannon (123 replies, posted in Close friends)
Mariana: Well, at worst it will wait until I can use Flickr. But I've been working toward a nice map, and I'm glad I did. In this way, you've helped again. I noticed as I put things on the map that the major river, the Severn, had to be divided into two branches to make any kind of sense at all. I had it one branch that went through New Dyved, making a coastline for that kingdom, then, on the other side, a way to the sea for New Fairy merchants. This didn't work, as the humans in New Dyved would be stymied by the Mists of Llyr. So right before the Bright (or Enchanted) Forest, it branches into an east and west tributary. Another problem came about when I had troops move from east to west. Of course the Western Severn would be right in their way. So now there is a Roman style bridge, and, not to give away too much, a battle on it. I had a kingdom right next to another kingdom, when it's in the west and the other was in the east. Another difference, although not so much for these stories, is I had in mind England when I had the kingdom of New Prydain, but it looks a lot more like Chile now. (lol) The map, once you see it will look like it's on its side: although it doesn't play much of a role in the story, originally all of this took place on Uranus, and Uranus is "on its side," i.e., it's magnetic poles would be west and east, so the upper part of Dareau is the west the lower part, the East, the North and South are reoriented accordingly. The map making made me realize where The Minnow was--it had to be bayed in the Delta. So now, there's a nice description of the Delta, with some hints that Rhiannon's narrative is a bit naive when she fails to realize just what kind of port the Delta is, and what that would mean about her father.
739 2016-07-08 18:08:07
Re: WIP Rhiannon the Nude, Vol 2: New Fairy by Rhiannon (123 replies, posted in Close friends)
I'm glad you like Rhiannon's voice. I hadn't really thought of how similar to Fafhrd she is, but now that you've pointed it out, I can see it. Thanks so much for the comparison, I humbly accept the imputed resemblance to the Master (Fritz Leiber). I suppose you could say he is to me as J.R.R. Tolkien is to George R.R. Martin, who even went so far as to steal Tolkien's R.R. Only Fritz Leiber would have written the story from the point of view of Ioseff, and not from the point of view of the naked slave girl.
I don't think 'aftertaste' is quite what you mean, as that usually mans a bad taste, but thank you I have considered that. I don't know how exactly to do that in this forum, but I'm sure there's a way. I can certainly do it to my Flickr account.
Hugs, Rhia
740 2016-07-04 19:23:36
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Merkel And I don't know why.
741 2016-06-28 05:14:29
Re: I finished my book (4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
After over ten years of writing, one false finish, and many wrong turns, I have finally finished my book State of Vengeance. When I started it in 2003, I never thought it would take so long. So, I can kick back, enjoy the moment, and then start going through all of the comments you have left and begin editing the final version. Thanks for listening to my personal victory.
Congrats! The easy part is over (heh); now, the really hard part--the editing and rewrite.
742 2016-06-27 00:29:23
Re: PLAGIARISM - LIMITS (18 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
max keanu wrote:Charles_F_Bell wrote:Bellum in Gallia malum, sed in matella taetrum.
I Googled and came up with the Latin phrase, but in doing so discovered Petronius's Satyricon. Have you read this? Interesting in so many ways.
Like an ancient Roman Reality TV show spiced with satire. Interesting how Augustus' top-down moral revolution had minimal effect within two generations.
There was such a show. I, Claudius.
743 2016-06-23 23:44:26
Re: PLAGIARISM - LIMITS (18 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
The only thing I'd add to Vern is that there aren't just seven plots. There are 1 (Don Webb of Bewildering Stories), 2 (Aristotle), 7, (Christopher Booker), 36 (Carlos Grazzi), 69 (Rudyard Kipling), and "thousands and thousands." Recently, Matthew Jackson (University of Nebraska) created a computer program and analyzed thousands of novels, short stories, etc., concluded that there were really only two. Not Aristotle's two: his were: solving a conflict through physical force and solving a problem by mental force. Jackson's were: "Man on a Hill" (The Great Gatsby), "Man in a hole" (Ahab). Don Webb's was: "there's a problem, there is an attempt to solve it." Booker's, which Vern is probably thinking of, were: rags to riches, overcoming the monster, the quest, voyage and return, comedy, tragedy, rebirth. Ronald Tobias thought there were 20. I'd list Tobias' but I'm tired.
744 2016-06-23 19:32:12
Re: A great loss (172 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Yes, I just read that her novel was second only to the Bible.
The last I heard it was The Bible, Atlas Shrugged, the Koran. "To Kill a Mockingbird" though is one of the best sellers of all time. And to the critic here, yes, it's mandatory reading in the US too, but there's a reason for it. Actually, I suppose two--just like the Germans pursue policies to prevent Nazism from ever happening again, the US pursues policies to prevent the racism portrayed in the book from happening. But it's also just a really good story.
745 2016-06-22 23:40:38
Re: WIP Rhiannon the Nude, Vol 2: New Fairy by Rhiannon (123 replies, posted in Close friends)
Just read a review by Suin and thought I'd mention some of my inspiration. I lean heavily on English history: sometimes unconsciously. In order to do the battle scenes, I drew a map. Then compared it to Wales. Yep, its a great big Wales. Rhiannon wanting the clans and packs in the constitution is based on the struggle to integrate the classes in Britain. The battles coming up are a lot like those in the War of the Roses and the Civil War, although there wasn't an alien invasion to complicate things. There's a scene right out of an incident involving the Duke of York, only Rhiannon did right by the innkeeper. So if things get confusing, just whip out your history of England.
746 2016-06-19 15:37:21
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Martian women pie
747 2016-06-18 20:41:40
Re: WIP Where Heaven and Hell Meet by Mariana (63 replies, posted in Close friends)
I do think that the possession needs work. There should perhaps be internal dialogue, a blending, then finally a takeover of Athens by Helga. There was an episode of Sliders, where Quin Mallory ended up in the body of, well, Quinn Mallory, a double, only he didn't look anything like him. The Quinn who wasn't Jerry O'Donald referred to himself as Mallory to distinguish, and said that Quinn was talking to him--only to finally disappear. Heinlein wrote "I Shall Fear No Evil," where an elderly man has his brain transplanted into his young, sexy, and female assistant. They communicate. So there are models to help you develop this. Maybe more on Athen's personality before she attempts suicide, so we can distinguish her from Helga and track the eventual dissolution of Athens into Helga. If that's too much work, as the first part has been written, have Athens reemerge from time to time, so we can distinguish them. This adds another layer of pathos, as Athens becomes a victim of Helga.
748 2016-05-25 17:37:20
Topic: Added a Cyrano scene in Chapter Five of New Fairy (0 replies, posted in Additional Writing Feedback)
It's all John Hamler's fault. He wanted more description of Rhiannon's breasts (yes, he would). Well, in New Fairy, I have her do a Cyrano scene, modified as the body part(s) is a little different than in Cyrano, but equally conspicuous and subject to rude comments. You all might enjoy it, even if you've already reviewed it.
749 2016-05-25 17:36:08
Topic: Added a Cyrano scene in Chapter Five of New Fairy (0 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
It's all John Hamler's fault. He wanted more description of Rhiannon's breasts (yes, he would). Well, in New Fairy, I have her do a Cyrano scene, modified as the body part(s) is a little different than in Cyrano, but equally conspicuous and subject to rude comments. You all might enjoy it, even if you've already reviewed it.
750 2016-05-23 00:52:29
Re: ???? (11 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Took me a while to make the adjustment. It doesn't quite have the community, but whose fault is that? I find the quality of the reviews is superior, and I cherish the small but growing klatch of writing buddies I'm accumulating.
