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1.    “Oh, what does he want now?” Jill thought. “Yes, Jack,” she answered.
2.    Oh, what does he want now? Jill thought. “Yes, Jack,” she answered.
3.    Oh, what does he want now? [New paragraph?] “Yes, Jack.”

The first and the second are standard, but the third is non-standard and differs little from the original unaffixed dialogue except it uses non-standard punctuation (the italics). If the author does create a new paragraph between the two sentences in example two, that presents a violation of the one rule of unaffixed dialogue: alternation. This rule creates the context and means to associate the dialogue or internal monologue with the character without dialogue tag.

On the other hand, in keeping with proper use of italics, a phrase or sentence contained within a paragraph of first-person narration will and can only be associated with someone else.

Old man Max. That’s what Alec began to call me when he was ten. I replaced my Porsche with a Jag on my forty-ninth birthday. C’mon, how many times are you going to be forty-nine? The smart aleck said. Old man with his old-man car. I had thought him to be a quiet, even rather stupid boy, when he was little. A phone call in the night changed my mind. Should I kill them?

The italics serves three purposes at the same time.
1.    The words are not Max’s in thought or speech.
2.    The words are emphasized.
3.    The words are not within the immediate context of the present action or narration – at a different time and space.

How to maintain context of who is speaking or thinking between more than two characters?
1.    Consistent explicit quotation of only one character.
2.    The addressed character identifies the quoted character.

“Come here!”
What you want, Mom?

The reader does not know who thinks or says the response, so the quoted character must, in turn, identify him or her or have already done so in that first sentence.

“Mike, come here!”
What do you want, Mom?

Or…

From character to character, certain phrasing or code words (by them, but in different ways) identifies the quoted character.  In the next example, the quoted character, Andrea, is sometimes identified by name, or by the perceived sound of her voice, or both.

“Elena!”
Oh, the sound of her words is always like chalk on a board.

[…]

“Alexandros.”
Yes. I answer Andrea.

[…]

“Hector?”
That voice can peel paint off the wall. I ask Andrea where Astyanax is.

[…]

“Cassandra!”
The baby seal on the Canadian ice shrieks.

So why do this?  At the sacrifice of narration of action to advance the plot—for the story must halt for the moment while the reader digs around in a character’s head—the underlying motivation, whether conscious or subconscious, is explained without the author telling through his own narration. Implicit in the lack of quotation marks is the mixing of thought and explicit speech of that character, perhaps, even to the extent of no speaking at all. In the example below Príamos begins in thought, but of a special kind, rather than These cookies taste good or “These cookies taste good,” he thinks, but in subconscious underpinnings to active thought, and never “thought” in the way authors commonly use “thought.” This is quite an economy of words, if the reader catches on, rather than through either a lengthy flashback or author-intrusive musings.

Por la Raza Todo, Fuera de la Raza Nada. This wigger, this reverse oreo, Alec! Come here, Hecuba. Let me squeeze your tits.
 
“Oreos should be yet on the way to your raza cosmica.”

Niggers with heretic whites? No.

“There is no specificity to the actual mix along the way to a future race of all races.”

We can simply decimate gringos and niggers by heroin as they did us with blankets of small pox. This continent, this whole hemisphere, belongs to the natives and the Holy Roman Church. Reconquista by our women’s wombs. Twelve sons, and some daughters, too, by three of such wombs that belong to me. Hecuba, will you bring your tits over here!

A nasty guy, the reader knows, without having to wade through thousands of words authors usually use to get the reader to that conclusion. Notice, too, Priamos begins with quoted material (a slogan) which is for that reason italicized.  It is improper and unnecessary to ever italicize the entire internal monologue. Hecuba, speaker of the quoted sentence that follows, is identified by Priamos prior to her appearance, as Andrea did for Elena, but the quoted/thought exchange is reversed.

ronald quark wrote:


[...]
Shadyia is a courtesan of the Silver Rose. When Demos Azari, fanatical advisor to the wicked Innocenti, requests Shadyia’s favor, he threatens the brothel sisterhood if she fails to comply. Despite her madam’s command, integrity makes Shadyia refuse. But this is only the beginning of Shadyia’s woes. Demos has bound a demon inside an enchanted box—a demon he believes will free mankind from its obsession with  the gods. But the imprisoned fiend has an agenda of its own: the slaughter of humanity. Only an enchanted ruby, hidden in the labyrinth beneath the Silver Rose, can keep the demon in the box. Only Demo’s sworn enemy, the magician Aaron, can find the ruby—but not without Shadyia’s help. As the great city of Anderholm dangles at the edge of ruin, Shadyia must decide whether to join Aaron on his quest or betray him to preserve the sisterhood she cherishes above all.

This just gets worser and worser.  As a disclaimer, I do not like or read what is called 'fantasy,' and my advice is not to try to write a teaser-blurb to entice a reader like me, but this and the original are only successful in directing me away as quickly as I can turn my head. Piling adjective on adjective is never a good idea and especially when word count and succinctness is important. All along name-descriptors are used as if they explain anything, "Silver Rose" (just a brothel?); "brothel (not an adjective) sisterhood" (a prostitutes' trade union or a sort of Vestal reverse-Virgin thing?) "fanatical advisor" (like John Wilkes Boothe?); "sworn enemy" (sworn, really?); "the sisterhood she cherishes above all" (whoring is just a job, after all).

The blurb and a query are two different things. Such an over-the-top blurb might entice a reader of such a 'fantasy' book to dig in, but literary agents who come from an editorial background, like editors, have the sense of humor of tax accountants with a breadth of imagination of a turnip. Just the facts, simply put.

And what does not work? Present your book tongue-in-cheek as if from one of your characters or a phony review from an Ivy-League NYT moron.

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By unaffixed dialogue I mean dialogue, internal monologue, thoughts and musings, and subconscious underpinnings to active thought. More on this last, later. The simplest example is also the only sort of unaffixed dialogue that is permitted in commonly accepted usage: omission of dialogue tags for words set within quotation.

“I like vanilla ice-cream,” said Jack.
“I like chocolate ice-cream,” said Jill.
“With sprinkles.”
“Oh, mine with nuts, please.”
“Nuts? Yuck.”
“What’s wrong with nuts?”

This can continue before such point as the author believes the reader will not know who is saying what, perhaps, after four exchanges, especially if the two speakers have little difference in manner of speech.

Moreover, too often neglected by amateur authors is a bit of action interspersed with the dialogue and sometimes through dialogue tags containing more information than he-said/she-said such as he-chided/she-argued.

“With sprinkles.” Jack motioned his fingers over an imaginary ice-cream cone to sprinkle colorful, imaginary tiny bits of candy.
“Oh, mine with nuts, please.” Jill waved her hands about in excitement over the idea.

This is almost—only almost, for the specific names of each speaker immediately follows as if a tag—an unaffixed dialogue exchange.

Unaffixed dialogue has one basic rule, and that is alternation, and in that, it differs not at all from ordinary tagged dialogue. The reader assumes: 1. Jack speaks then 2. Jill speaks then 3. Jack speaks then 4. Jill speaks by the order established in the first two sentences of the exchange. However, it is possible to have unaffixed dialogue without any dialogue tags if the author can convey the order of speaking in a manner that attaches an action to the words spoken.

“I like vanilla ice-cream.” Jack pointed to the tub of vanilla ice-cream.
“I like chocolate ice-cream.” Jill gently pushed Jack’s pointing finger down onto the counter over the tub of chocolate ice-cream.

Now to the extremes.

[First words of the story or chapter:]

“Jill.”
“Yes, Jack.”
“What kind of ice-cream do you like?”
“Vanilla.”
“Chocolate!”

Is a good reader really confused by who has said what?

More extreme.

“Jill.”
Oh, what does he want now? Yes, Jack.
“What kind of ice-cream do you like?”
Just to annoy him I’ll say I like chocolate because I know he likes vanilla, and he expects me to like everything he likes.
“No. Vanilla!”

Is a good reader really confused by who has said what? Or that not contained within quotation marks is part thought and part explicit speech?

Alternatives:
1.    “Oh, what does he want now?” Jill thought. “Yes, Jack,” she answered.
2.    Oh, what does he want now? [New paragraph?] “Yes, Jack.”

The first is standard, and the second is non-standard and differs little from the original unaffixed dialogue except it uses more and non-standard punctuation (the italics).

Part Two continues with more extreme examples.
https://www.thenextbigwriter.com/forums … final.html

A.T.Schlesinger wrote:

The great city of Anderholm dangles at the edge of ruin. Demos Azari has bound a devious evil inside an enchanted box.

Deviating from straight-up evil, this fiendish thing must be a little bit good, no?   Or maybe his author prefers redundant phrasing.

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vern wrote:

His limited wall will not secure the border.

The border wall from San Diego, CA to Yuma, AZ was such a success, Congress, of course, stop funding the completion through Texas. The issue has seen liars in both Parties who give a nod to sovereignty, like the Senator from Canada, Cruz, but do something else. There is so much invested in Trump to do this, and he can without new law, it would be impossible to do otherwise.

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vern wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:
vern wrote:

Right! How could I be so blind. Trump is the second coming and his loyal subjects perceive his perfectness and worship at his perfect feet. He can do no wrong. May he lift you up in his righteous arms and bestow all his glory upon you. Take care. Vern

It's not that Trump has always been right; it's that his political opposition of any Party has always been wrong.

A couple neglects to latch the bedroom door before engaging in vertical exercise, and their child walks in and sees everything.

GOP/DEM/LIB/GREEN/VERN : What an abuse of children! Why, we would never!

Trump: It's embarrassing, and one is regretful; mind your own effing business!

"A COUNTRY WITH NO BORDERS ISN'T A COUNTRY." 

That alone, spoken by no politician in the U.S. for generations, deserves him the Presidency.

You call that an argument/rebuttal? Geez. The blue stuff doesn't even make sense within any context of this discussion or possibly otherwise. And a country by definition has borders even if The Donald doesn't/can't see them.

This is exactly why Trump's opposition within any Party is always wrong. You're like drug addicts or psychopaths: whatever it is, deny, deny, deny. There are borders only if the administrative government forbids passage of every unauthorized person, so a statement that "The Donald doesn't see them" is some delusional allegation of an irrelevant charge.

vern wrote:

Building a wall around a country which serves no useful purpose is more of a prison than a natural border.

Whether by Rome or by China, walls worked for the purpose of establishing and maintaining borders so long as the concept that no unauthorized person may enter. Walls, and by "walls" it is meant any personal, physical, or electronic prevention, can only work if the concept of unauthorized person remains corresponding to reality, and only Trump as Presidential candidate is smart and sober enough to know that. The concept of open borders, that effectively there is or ought to be no unauthorized person to enter and reside in a sovereign nation, is to destroy that sovereign nation. International socialism either of the coercive kind (communism, anarcho-libertarianism) or the insidious kind (George Soros' Open Society and other sorts of collectivist anarchism), Islamic expansionist jihadism, in establishing caliphates regardless of nationality, or merely utilitarian expansion of a slave class has a vested interest in diminishing or destroying U.S. national sovereignty. And then there are the drug addicts, psychopaths, and the stupid like you who are delusional.

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vern wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:
vern wrote:

Your claim was that in referring to these what you describe as uncorroborated stories that "...  no such accusation ever came forward until three weeks before a Presidential election." My claim is that if you do a simple competent search, it will show clearly that there were numerous incidents prior to Trump's presidential candidacy,


You can sit there in your underwear and robe making any number of claims which are completely false.


vern wrote:

You saying Trump's defense is that he has done nothing wrong when he admits his sexual assault on tape is ludicrous.

He isn't admitting to anything. He sounds to me like an old middle-aged man fabricating fish stories to impress a young man who is enjoying the fable as much as if it were the truth. That is locker room talk, at best exaggeration of what might have happened or fantasy of what might happen.

Right! How could I be so blind. Trump is the second coming and his loyal subjects perceive his perfectness and worship at his perfect feet. He can do no wrong. May he lift you up in his righteous arms and bestow all his glory upon you. Take care. Vern

It's not that Trump has always been right; it's that his political opposition of any Party has always been wrong.

A couple neglects to latch the bedroom door before engaging in vertical exercise, and their child walks in and sees everything.

GOP/DEM/LIB/GREEN/VERN : What an abuse of children! Why, we would never!

Trump: It's embarrassing, and one is regretful; mind your own effing business!

"A COUNTRY WITH NO BORDERS ISN'T A COUNTRY." 

That alone, spoken by no politician in the U.S. for generations, deserves him the Presidency.

Norm d'Plume wrote:

Opinions, please. I'm wondering when to italicize new words. Following are four examples.

1) Tactical overlays showed their light nova cannons, heavy supernova cannons, and shields readying for battle.
2) “Warning, intruder alert!” Aussie said. “Imperial Classiarii are now boarding this vessel!”
3) "Gobs! The whole galaxy?" Joseph asked, his eyes round as saucers.
4) Apollo was sole Heir to the Imperium Romanum.

Number one seems correct.
In number two, the new word is Classiarii (it's a real word from the Roman Empire). Are new words in dialogue italicized? It could make it seem as if the speaker is stressing the word, rather than the narrator.
In number three, the new word is gobs (like gobsmacked). Same as number two?
In number four, Heir to the Imperium Romanum is a formal title. Should it be italicized on first use?

I'm also not sure what to do with all the other made up words in the book. Do I italicize all of them on first use?

Thanks
Dirk

The first rule of italics is do not over-use. They are used sparingly to emphasize, set apart words as words, for titles of publications, names of ships, trains, etc., for long (paragraph) cited material, and for foreign words. So your thinking is a made-up word is like a foreign word, but my opinion it is not. In a sense, you might be saying, 'Hey reader, I intend to use this word and it's not a misprint'  or to emphasize, but I think not. None of your examples should be italicized, and especially so because it is fiction.

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vern wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:
vern wrote:

The assertion that nothing has shown up over the past 40 years until the current round being decried as politically motivated is simply incorrect as any reasonably competent research would show.

There is no research that anyone has competently accused Tump of sexual misconduct prior to this time when anyone can accuse him while shielded from suit for slander because of his candidacy..

vern wrote:

There is no defense for Trump or those who support him on this count. Take care. Vern

The defense is that he has not done anything wrong.

Your claim was that in referring to these what you describe as uncorroborated stories that "...  no such accusation ever came forward until three weeks before a Presidential election." My claim is that if you do a simple competent search, it will show clearly that there were numerous incidents prior to Trump's presidential candidacy,


You can sit there in your underwear and robe making any number of claims which are completely false.


vern wrote:

You saying Trump's defense is that he has done nothing wrong when he admits his sexual assault on tape is ludicrous.

He isn't admitting to anything. He sounds to me like an old middle-aged man fabricating fish stories to impress a young man who is enjoying the fable as much as if it were the truth. That is locker room talk, at best exaggeration of what might have happened or fantasy of what might happen.

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Dill Carver wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:

For a topic "Punctuation" somehow one would think that comments on punctuation is not only appropriate but expected, but Carver's corrections was used to cover the fact that he had nothing relevant to say other than I typed "i' instead of "f"  and someone else typed "your" instead of "you're."  That is rudeness replacing relevant feedback.

Normally I wouldn't worry about spelling, punctuation or inappropriate word choice within a forum post. However, in this case I responded with comments upon people's own grammar within posts they'd made to me, purely because they were questioning, criticising or correcting my own grammar within said post with worse grammar irregularities themselves.

You lie.  On the actual subject, anyone choosing sneaked like you is correct. It's just a question of choosing a valid alternative in "snuck" for which you had the unsupportable, bigoted 'only hillbillies choose "snuck".' Your substitute argument to me was that I spelled "of" as "oi."

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Charles_F_Bell wrote:

Yeah, weird how I might be 'obsessed' with the subject.

Dill Carver wrote:

Charles, you are funny. A real wit.

Charles mentions Political Correctness, in fact he seems quite obsessed with the concept,

The humanitarian liberals are not very pleased with this and their solution is ban words and persecute anyone who mentions the fact by branding them a fascist and a racist.

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vern wrote:
Charles F Bell wrote:

At which point, by action, the braggadocio, then and only then, becomes relevant.  But through the last 40 years of Trump's life, no such accusation ever came forward until three weeks before a Presidential election (and uncorroborated) - unlike for Bill Clinton, and, by the way, for Bill Cosby where all along through decades there had been some accusations of indecent conduct.

The assertion that nothing has shown up over the past 40 years until the current round being decried as politically motivated is simply incorrect as any reasonably competent research would show.

There is no research that anyone has competently accused Tump of sexual misconduct prior to this time when anyone can accuse him while shielded from suit for slander because of his candidacy..

vern wrote:

There is no defense for Trump or those who support him on this count. Take care. Vern

The defense is that he has not done anything wrong.

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Charles_F_Bell wrote:

A woman of a self-identified undecided's Fox focus group stood up and actually said that any man who would say those things even in private is wrong. That is what I mean. A kind of thought-control policing.

Memphis Trace wrote:

Losing the votes of women who think he is wrong is the price of sexual assault. Notice how quickly he backtracked. He now says it is only words.

Mainly because there is no reason to believe these allegations are true, and losing the votes of such women is irrelevant.

Memphis Trace wrote:

Now we will see how well he holds up under the ordeal. It is the price one pays for locker room talk.

Actually, he has done what he can do and that's all. Any accuser is immunized from libel laws because of his candidacy.  There is no sense to believe any of the allegations from those who cannot suffer consequences for lying. Through the last 40 years of Trump's life, no such accusation ever came forward until three weeks before a Presidential election against one who cannot sue for slander.

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Dill Carver wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:

You took the time and effort to omit everything to obscure understanding. That is what makes you a bad person.

The quotes I used are intact (as written). I may have been selective upon which quotes I included within any particular reply, but that's only as you have also done within your replies throughout this entire thread.

You've transitioned from mischievous internet trolling to pathologic internet trolling when you deny facts already demonstrated. You deleted the line to which I responded and alleged that I must have been responding to something else.  And, of course, you omitted it here again.

Dill Carver wrote:

Charles mentions Political Correctness, in fact he seems quite obsessed with the concept,

Charles_F_Bell wrote:

Yeah, weird how I might be 'obsessed' with the subject.

re:

Dill Carver wrote:

The humanitarian liberals are not very pleased with this and their solution is ban words and persecute anyone who mentions the fact by branding them a fascist and a racist.

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corra wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:

Isn't unsolicited correcting punctuation and grammar being mean?

Is it? IS IT?

For a topic "Punctuation" somehow one would think that comments on punctuation is not only appropriate but expected, but Carver's corrections was used to cover the fact that he had nothing relevant to say other than I typed "i' instead of "f"  and someone else typed "your" instead of "you're."  That is rudeness replacing relevant feedback.

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Memphis Trace wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:
njc wrote:

I still feel that 'tw*t' is obscene.  I note that 'twattle' has also been spelled 'twaddle'.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/twat

2. A person regarded as stupid or obnoxious.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/twattle

Trivial or foolish speech.

When I first came across the word 'twat' in England I did not actually know some Americans' use of the word and associated it then with 'twattle.' I still like the association because metaphorically I think the words are associated with women, and in England both words are used by and against men in exactly the same way when the coach or army sergeant calls his men "pussies" when they underperform. This line of association brings to mind the  pc climate in which now men are not allowed to speak this way to other men even in private [viz. Donald Trump/Billy Bush].

Donald Trump did not call women "pussies." And, obviously, he was allowed to speak this way in private about assaulting women by grabbing women by one of the few parts of a woman's body that he seems to be interested in.

A woman of a self-identified undecided's Fox focus group stood up and actually said that any man who would say those things even in private is wrong. That is what I mean. A kind of thought-control policing. This is a minority opinion, but one held within all sectors of information transmission media: education, news & entertainment, government. That is where Liberalism has grown from its English-Enlightenment roots and starts with Locke and his precept that government's function is to reach for virtue. The distinction in natural-rights theory from Hobbes to Locke was that Hobbes was concerned about behavior in Civil Society and Locke was concerned about the perfection of Civil Society.

Memphis Trace wrote:

Since that time he has claimed he has never done the things he bragged about in his "locker room" talk; since that time several women have stepped forward to say that he has done just that.

At which point, by action, the braggadocio, then and only then, becomes relevant.  But through the last 40 years of Trump's life, no such accusation ever came forward until three weeks before a Presidential election (and uncorroborated) - unlike for Bill Clinton, and, by the way, for Bill Cosby where all along through decades there had been some accusations of indecent conduct.

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Dill Carver wrote:
Dill Carver wrote:

Here in the U.K. we have laws upon things like marriage, the age of consent for sex, and the slaughter of animals and how meat products are stored and handled.

We have seen the ingress into the UK of many unprocessed migrants and foreign refugees, asylum seekers in recent times. The humanitarian liberals are very pleased with this. We feed, clothe, fund, house, school and provide medical care for these people.  The humanitarian liberals are very pleased with this. Some of these migrants arrive with their wife; or their wives. Some of those wives are aged under fourteen years old. These child brides are arranged into marriage (bought and sold for a dowry). So a 41 year old man can, in the UK have three wives, one age 35, one 14yrs and another of 13yrs (with the 14 year old pregnant) and in direct contravention the Statute Law of the UK. The humanitarian liberals are not very pleased with this and their solution is ban words and persecute anyone who mentions the fact by branding them a fascist and a racist.

Charles_F_Bell wrote:

Yeah, weird how I might be 'obsessed' with the subject.

Which, paedophilia or the unregulated slaughter of livestock?

This is what makes you an internet troll: you delete that portion which puts my words in context.

This is what you said [and here you deleted]:

Charles mentions Political Correctness, in fact he seems quite obsessed with the concept,

And this is how I responded:

Yeah, weird how I might be 'obsessed' with the subject

I took the time and effort to include in citation everything necessary for complete understanding. That is what makes me a good person.

You took the time and effort to omit everything to obscure understanding. That is what makes you a bad person.

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njc wrote:

I still feel that 'tw*t' is obscene.  I note that 'twattle' has also been spelled 'twaddle'.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/twat

2. A person regarded as stupid or obnoxious.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/twattle

Trivial or foolish speech.

When I first came across the word 'twat' in England I did not actually know some Americans' use of the word and associated it then with 'twattle.' I still like the association because metaphorically I think the words are associated with women, and in England both words are used by and against men in exactly the same way when the coach or army sergeant calls his men "pussies" when they underperform. This line of association brings to mind the  pc climate in which now men are not allowed to speak this way to other men even in private [viz. Donald Trump/Billy Bush].

njc wrote:

I have no means to force anyone to choose different words.  I can state my belief and ask people to choose others, and I will think better of them if they do.  But I will not call for anyone's expulsion.

You are conflating two issues: (1) using obscene words; (2) using mean words.  On the former, I agree, but that is never an issue that I have seen on TNBW.  However, in this very same thread "You have your head up your ass." [ass(U.S.) = arse(U.K.)] somehow did not elicit a response from you, did it?

njc wrote:

The term was used as an expression of contempt, not a slur or a meta-slur.  Again referring to a legal principle, nobody in any degree of sanity could believe that the person named was actually part of a woman's private parts, whereas with words commonly bandied about (including 'racist') the accusation is meant to be taken literally.

Wow! This is  twaddle.

njc wrote:

That doesn't mean I encourage expressions of contempt.  They're not good for discourse, they're not good to the person to whom they are directed, and they are usually not good for the person who issues them.

Yes, I agree being mean in discourse is not good.  Isn't unsolicited correcting punctuation and grammar being mean? I don't recall your calling anyone out on that - in the context which brought out my mean words in response.  Moreover, being mean evidently has a broad definition on TNBW and the Web generally.  Here there are too many  -- not a majority or even so many -- who think disagreement with stated reason is being mean, and every single one of  them is a woman -- not a majority or even more than a few, but gives understanding to these words we have been discussing.

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Dill Carver wrote:

.

[...]

Charles mentions Political Correctness, in fact he seems quite obsessed with the concept,

[...]

Here in the U.K. we have laws upon things like marriage, the age of consent for sex, and the slaughter of animals and how meat products are stored and handled.

We have seen the ingress into the UK of many unprocessed migrants and foreign refugees, asylum seekers in recent times. The humanitarian liberals are very pleased with this. We feed, clothe, fund, house, school and provide medical care for these people.  The humanitarian liberals are very pleased with this. Some of these migrants arrive with their wife; or their wives. Some of those wives are aged under fourteen years old. These child brides are arranged into marriage (bought and sold for a dowry). So a 41 year old man can, in the UK have three wives, one age 35, one 14yrs and another of 13yrs (with the 14 year old pregnant) and in direct contravention the Statute Law of the UK. The humanitarian liberals are not very pleased with this and their solution is ban words and persecute anyone who mentions the fact by branding them a fascist and a racist.

Yeah, weird how I might be 'obsessed' with the subject.

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Dill Carver wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:
Dill Carver wrote:

Well, I've been labelled a 'pretentious bigoted twat' by the most imperious and superior entity upon this site


That would mean in your judgement he is not pretending to anything and is awesome.


Har! And you have the gall to accuse corra and Mariana of being...

Charles_F_Bell wrote:

irony-challenged

Unless of course you are using double-irony?

double irony nets a positive conclusion: that we indeed know him to be fabulously awesome, charming, and perspicacious beyond Einstein.

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njc wrote:
Dill Carver wrote:

... Could one not be a good person with a perfectly well developed and sound moral code despite having never encountering a religion?  ....

Virtue is a skill.  Some of us have more talent than others, but we all need to learn, and that means learning from others.  We don't have time to make all the mistakes ourselves, and the desire to make every possible moral mistake in order to learn for ourselves is ... ghastly.  And that assumes that we would each recognize our own mistakes--which is doubtful.

Civilization is not passed in the genes.  It took ten thousand years to build, and we are always in danger of losing it.  Look around the world.

In all this, unless I missed it, is your acknowledgement/apology for your misconstrual of the meaning of a word that you took as offensive -- that is, of course,  not offensive in the way you thought it to be because of your limited knowledge of British-isms. Now, if the censorship is to be extended to all British-isms like the annoying way they spell those -o(u)r words, I'm onboard.

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corra wrote:

P.R.O.J.E.C.T.I.N.G.

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You've been chasing your own tail (no 'bitch' reference, of course) endlessly over this twattle. That signifies a bigoted ideologue.

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Dill Carver wrote:

Well, I've also been exposed as an "obnoxious pseud" who is "ignorant and with an underpowered IQ." So how the hell would I know?

There's no probability that you certainly probably wouldn't know.

https://youtu.be/ESIJ_C9mUBI?t=1m55s

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njc wrote:

Dill, you do realize that you're defending the use of a word by Charles, don't you?

Do you realize that like a ditzy liberal you seek to be offended on someone else's behalf?

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Dill Carver wrote:

Well, I've been labelled a 'pretentious bigoted twat' by the most imperious and superior entity upon this site


That would mean in your judgement he is not pretending to anything and is awesome.