Minor tweak to the name of the trilogy. The Unholy Trinity Unleashed was inappropriate, since it suggests someone else set them loose/is in control. Technically, God is, but that's not an idea I want to put in the reader's head at the outset.
2,326 2018-02-16 05:15:13
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
2,327 2018-02-15 18:51:21
Re: writing (13 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Lynne, a bunch of us have set up shop in the Medieval/Fantasy group to brainstorm about our novels (one forum thread per work in progress) and to review each other's chapters. Not all the books are about fantasy. We've got science fiction and a supernatural thriller as well. It evolved that way because there is no easy way to reach each other if each of us is in the "correct" group. You're welcome to join us. Naturally, if you post the thread in Premium, you'll reach the largest audience, but if every member does the same, Premium will quickly become overwhelmed with such posts. I limit my use of Premium to cases when I need to find someone with specific expertise outside of our existing clique. It's your call.
2,328 2018-02-15 17:38:34
Re: writing (13 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Can someone explain to me why nearly every post in this forum is about American politics, and not about writing? Surely that is why everyone is here?
Amen! I'm still hoping that those so-inclined will form a debate group, or move to the existing Fight Club. Hint, damn it!
2,329 2018-02-13 20:34:15
Re: Devin Nunes’s Nothingburger (50 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Please read: http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/
Trump would have to be an idiot to sit down with Mueller. If the above news organization can put together that much information, imagine what Mueller has been able to uncover. I'd plead the Fifth so fast Mueller's would head would spin. Trump's supporters already believe Mueller is out to get him, so they'll just spin it as the sensible way to shut down the witch hunt. Assuming Trump doesn't do more stupid things like fire Rosenstein and Mueller. And the GOP will give him a pass on any minor offenses since they're desperate to hold onto Congress.
It's odd that an innocent man would spend so much of his energy trying to undermine the FBI, the special prosecutor, and the Justice Department.
2,330 2018-02-13 18:41:05
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Found an article on Bible.org that confirms Jesus destroys the armies of the Antichrist with his Word. Talk about power! Gives a whole new meaning to the statement "Make it so." Fortunately, my story was never meant to go there, even though an all-out battle for the Earth would have been cool as an ending for the trilogy.
2,331 2018-02-13 04:38:22
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Thanks, Amy. While the Catholic Church recognizes a form of rapture, it's a much bigger deal for Fundamentalists and some Evangelicals. They believe they will be carried up to heaven immediately before Christ's return. Then there is a literal 1000 years with Christ reigning on earth, followed by the rise of the Antichrist & False Prophet, the unleashing of Satan, a few years of chaos, Jesus killing whoever he needs to, then final judgment. I may have some of the timeline wrong, but they believe they will not need to suffer the Great Tribulation because they won't be here.
EDIT: The Bible and Catholic Church don't use the term rapture at all. I Thessalonians 4:16-17 says this: We who are alive and remain shall be caught up, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds. This is as close as Scripture gets to anything representing the rapture. It was meant to console early Christians that they would be reunited with loved ones.
I was looking for a title that might appeal to both thriller readers and Christians, like the "Exorcist". I've settled on The Unholy Trinity Unleashed for the time being. I wanted Satan's Last Stand, but K and Seabrass have me convinced for now not to give away the ending. I don't really, since it doesn't mean all three antagonists die, just that Satan knows he's supposed to die, so he sets events in motion that attempt to change the final outcome.
My biggest headache right now is that the (best) Catholic study guide that I selected as the basis for end time events says to treat key end time events as allegory, like the battle at Armageddon (Mount Megiddo). I wasn't planning to have an actual battle, since that's another Protestant belief, but Revelation makes pretty clear that Jesus/The Father literally destroy the enemies of God. The book says Jesus personally destroys the Antichrist's armies with a sword that comes out of His mouth. The study guide says that's a reference to Christ's holy words, which I agree with, but then the guide doesn't explain how that's supposed to happen. Is His preaching so powerful that all evildoers just drop dead at hearing it? If so, why was there no such power displayed in the Gospels?
2,332 2018-02-12 13:11:13
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Oh dear! I'm almost done converting my study guide into notes (two chapters to go) and just found out that the final battle with Satan should be read allegorically, not literally. I have yet to figure out what that means, since Jesus destroys the Antichrist's armies with a sword coming out of his mouth (His words?), while the rest of of God's enemies (so called Gog and Magog from Old Testament prophecy) are destroyed by fire coming down from heaven. The last chapter I studied includes the judgment of unrepentant sinners, who get thrown into the lake of fire. This is wrath of God stuff, so I don't know how to read it allegorically. So far, the Catholic forum I'm on doesn't have any useful suggestions either. Neither does the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
2,333 2018-02-12 12:31:59
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
If it was just Satan as a character in my book, I would have stayed with Satan's Last Stand. I don't mind giving away that he dies (spoiler alert :-), but without telling how desperate he is and what he almost succeeds in doing. Many Christians know what's supposed to happen to the devil, as do some non-Christians. I toyed with Last Stand of the Unholy Trinity, but that title is too long. The Unholy Trinity's Last Stand doesn't sound as good as the The Unholy Trinity Unleashed. Now I've got a cool title that's never been used and doesn't give away the ending. I can die happy now.
2,334 2018-02-12 03:58:24
Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread (1,905 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Amy, nothing of mine needs reviewing. K and Seabrass are nitting some minor cleanup I'm doing before I shelve the book. Spending 90% of my writing time doing research for my next trilogy, tentatively entitled The Unholy Trinity Unleashed. There's a thread for it in this forum if you want to subscribe and watch me rename it two or three times a day.
2,335 2018-02-11 19:35:48
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Last change: The Unholy Trinity Unleashed.
2,336 2018-02-11 17:47:17
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Based on the Spartan example, I'm satisfied with Last Stand of the Unholy Trinity. As I mentioned earlier, it doesn't mean Satan will lose, just that it's the final battle in history.
2,337 2018-02-11 17:27:11
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I recommend migrating away from a title containing "Satan". You might best use a temp title. I have stories I haven't chosen a title for in like 3 decades (403's title for example, for the past 4 years was "Lizzie" and before that it was 10y as "Ultimate Soldier" until I realized she was anything but.).
There is no shame in waiting until after you've written the novel to give it a title. Even then, the publisher may scrap your title, so don't marry it.
Satan is a word designed to draw in both thriller readers and Christians. The Unholy Trinity would be an alternate term to use in the title. I'm leaning toward the latter.
2,338 2018-02-11 17:24:38
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
The Battle of Thermopylae had an unavoidable ending for King Leonidas and his 300 Spartans, but it still made for a story so compelling, it's still told to this day, 2500 years later.
2,339 2018-02-11 17:11:38
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Satan's Apocalyptic Treachery
Satan's Unholy Trinity
Satan's Revenge
2,340 2018-02-11 15:50:26
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I've exhausted my search for synonyms that could replace Satan's Last Stand. Regardless how I word the title, Christians already know the ending and expect it to go a certain way. Satan has to lose in the end, although the Antichrist's fate and that of his followers will not go as planned. The only other title I can think of is Revenge of the Unholy Trinity. Neither title has been used before, based on a search on Amazon. Technically, this story is partly about revenge, but that's not the central theme. The Unholy Trinity (Satan, Antichrist, and False Prophet) use deception to attack the Church (events known as the Great Tribulation in Revelation), followed by the final battle against Christ on Armageddon (Mount Megiddo).
2,341 2018-02-11 14:57:23
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I should add that it becomes clear during book one that all is not going as prophesied by John, Daniel, and the other prophets.
2,342 2018-02-11 14:52:50
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
This title thing is going to be the death of me. The story will ultimately come down to a battle between Satan and Christ, but with a twist: Satan has a plan that might allow him to destroy Christ, in spite of the Revelation prophecies. If Satan wins, God the Father has agreed to allow him to rule Earth forever. Satan might end up destroying the Trinity in the process.
Suggestions?
Revenge of the Unholy Trinity
Satan's Treachery
Battle for the Earth
Battle for Heaven and Earth
Satan's Final Deception
Satan's Hail Mary (just kidding)
Satan vs. God
Satan's Last Stand
Last Stand of the Unholy Trinity
Last/Final doesn't mean he will lose, just that it's the last battle in human history. Winner take all.
Thoughts?
2,343 2018-02-11 07:02:52
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Nineteen chapters of Revelation converted to notes, including the defeat of the Antichrist and the False Prophet. Satan's defeat is next. Only three chapters to go!
The bad news is that the Catholic study guide I'm using says that the defeat of Satan and his minions is a spiritual battle, not a physical one. Jesus slays the opposing armies with a sword coming out of his mouth (i.e. the word of God). They didn't convert in spite of countless disastrous warnings from God (seven seals, seven trumpets, seven woes), so I'm guessing seeing a preacher-king on a white horse isn't going to hold much sway either. Interestingly, Jesus arrives from heaven with his armies of angels and followers, yet He personally slays the armies of the world by himself. So why the show of force?
Protestant Dispensationalists interpret Revelation as involving a real battle on Armageddon, so the Catholic interpretation is rather anticlimactic, which isn't what you want at the end of a trilogy. Needs work.
P.S. New title for the book series: Satan's Last Stand. Seems like it might be an equally appealing title to Christians and non-Christians. Requiem for Heaven and Earth was a little too obscure given that many Christians don't understand the imagery behind Revelation. Some parishes don't even like to teach it out of fear of scaring Christians.
2,344 2018-02-10 00:20:54
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
The professor provided so much detail, I always assumed it was real. Coconut shells, seawater, metal strips, wire, pennies, etc.: the wire coming from the pennies leads to the positive pole of the battery. Metal strips on the other side of the coconut, lead to the negative pole of the battery.
Early in season one, Ginger regularly wore a dress made from a tarp with the words SS Minnow on it.
I own the entire series. :-)
2,345 2018-02-09 23:22:31
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip
That started from this topic port aboard this tiny ship
The mate was a mighty sailing man, the skipper brave and sure
Five passengers set sail that day on a three hour tour
A three hour tour
Of course it begs the question why the Howells, Ginger, and even Maryanne brought enough clothes to dress differently for almost ever episode. Also, why did Thurston bring a trunk full of cash? Plot holes!
2,346 2018-02-09 20:13:36
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Battle Hymn of the Republic seems to have been a bad choice. The song has been playing in my head since yesterday. :-(
2,347 2018-02-09 13:37:42
Re: My new WIP novel, "The Battle for Control" (18 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
A tyrant named Donnell who wants to conquer the U.S.and set up a dictatorship? Does he hold military parades? :-)
2,348 2018-02-09 13:28:56
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I'm missing something. What's wrong with that verse, njc? Also, I did here that verse on Spotify yesterday.
K, you have to admit it's a more powerful title for attracting Christians at a glance. Requiem is, admittedly, more neutral. I made some notes overnight to see what else might work.
2,349 2018-02-09 04:43:23
Re: What's With Some of the New Members (89 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Oh, and learning the terminology of English Grammar gives you words to express your thoughts on the subject.
"I like the way it reads." :-)
2,350 2018-02-09 04:16:22
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Switched series title again. I think the latest is more powerful. I wonder how many people under thirty will get the reference to the hymn.