How many times have you read that you shouldn't open stories with prologues or dreams? I just read a review of the novelization of Star Wars: The Last Jedi. It uses both. How much do you want to bet it becomes a New York Times bestseller?
2,226 2018-03-11 22:16:59
Topic: Opening stories with prologues and dreams (20 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
2,227 2018-03-11 21:05:22
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Potentially, Professor Hinkley could secretly continue to run his company, jumping around time to bring futuristic inventions to market. Him running Acme eliminates the need of another character to do so. It simplifies that aspect of the story. He founded Acme, invented time travel, and is believed to be using the latter to keep his monopoly on tech.
2,228 2018-03-11 20:58:48
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Does anyone have any ideas as to how to improve the integration of Aussie into the story? My original plan was this: Aussie is Brain in the prologue, renames itself to something else (Michael?), becomes CEO of Acme, secretly receives messages from the future, telling it what tech to build, initiates carnage throughout the galaxy to drive up Acme's share price, and pretends to be Michael the Archangel, among other spirits. That's a lot for one character, especially one that's only ever referred to in news broadcasts.
I think I should drop Aussie/Michael as the CEO of Acme and leave plotting of the book's carnage to the Imperium or to a different unseen character. That would allow Aussie/Michael to focus on being Michael the Archangel et al. I could use conversations with Saint Michael to drop hints that Michael is really a robot. This has the added advantage that the robot doesn't need to flee at the end of book one, since the spirits are around until the end of the trilogy. But the robot should also appear physically in the book, otherwise it only appears as Brain in the prologue and during the final reveal of book three, which isn't enough.
One idea would be to make the robot a news reporter in many of the news epigraphs I sprinkle throughout the story. Currently, I have many different news broadcasters on different planets. That would raise its role in the story.
Thoughts?
2,229 2018-03-11 03:08:06
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
No, I want The Prophecies to foretell actual events, even though they don't get into specifics, like naming Joseph and Apollo. Also, if I add another character, it will further complicate the story. I already have Hinkley bouncing around time and Queen Aussie running Acme, receiving instructions from the future and communicating with Joseph and Apollo, pretending to be Saint Michael, among others.
In the current draft, a mysterious character named Aussie pops up every few chapters to cause carnage, leaving 'Queen' Aussie (CEO of Acme) to deny any involvement, yet Acme's share price goes up every time there's an attack because governments buy more weapons. Neither Aussie nor Queen Aussie appear physically in the story (until the end), but rather through events told in news broadcasts. The two Aussie's are one and the same, of course. The authorities eventually come to that conclusion and Aussie takes off, assuming the role of robopilot for Caligula, who goes on the run across the galaxy because he was indirectly responsible for the destruction of New Bethlehem.
In theory, all of this should remain in the book, otherwise there's no reason for Aussie to appear, not even in news broadcasts, until the reveal at the end of book three. However, I don't care for how Aussie currently appears in the story. She doesn't really tie into the story. I need a way to use Aussie to give the reader clues that she is the one haunting Joseph and Apollo.
2,230 2018-03-11 01:19:46
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
'Third Testament' will be too controversial for Anglican readers, which is a surprisingly large Christian denomination. Perhaps a treatise called 'The Prophecies'? It would prophesy the spiritual coming of Saint Michael the Archangel to prepare the way for the Second Coming. Takes God totally out of the book, except perhaps for the appearance to Joseph by Jesus in act III. TBD.
Joseph is currently four when he first hears God. He'll have to know who Saint Michael is instead, which comes primarily from Revelation. He leads God's armies against Satan in a war in heaven, so it's not too unusual that Joseph's parents would have read him that part of Revelation. Star Wars for the religious.
2,231 2018-03-10 21:19:33
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I'm considering Britannia because Joseph's home world is a monarchy that serves as the head of the church on his world, based on and descended from Queen Elizabeth. If I introduce Brother Hinkley and the Third Testament early enough in the story, I think the reader will give me some latitude when Jesus appears to Joseph, apparently fulfilling one of the crackpot prophecies of the Third Testament. Ponder I must.
2,232 2018-03-10 20:30:33
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
A monk known as Brother Hinkley appeared from out of nowhere in the third millennium and wrote the Third Testament of the Church of Britannia, explaining why Jesus didn't return and speculating (based on controversial historical evidence) that He may have been married and had kids. Hinkley then entered a monastery and was never heard from again. The Church believes that Jesus's descendants may be hidden somewhere in the Julian and St. James royal lines, and will one day reveal themselves. The Third Testament includes prophecies about these descendants that seem to describe Joseph and Apollo, and that describe events that will occur later in the story.
Since the Church of Britannia is British, I need to rename Aussie. It adds too much complexity to keep unrelated details like that straight in the reader's head.
2,233 2018-03-10 19:27:19
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Another twist. What if the Professor jumped through time and was responsible for the Third Testament of the Church of Britannia? I could use 'Father Hinkley' as the historical prophet who wrote the Third Testament. This makes him the one who has been messing with events throughout time. After writing the Third Testament, he entered a monastery and was never heard from again.
2,234 2018-03-10 18:53:53
Re: Day of the Dude (3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
The Last Jedi
2,235 2018-03-10 18:49:33
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
This keeps getting better and better. If Jesus had kids, as the Church of Britannia believes, then Joseph and Apollo could be His descendants. I could hint at it by suggesting that the Church has been looking for His descendants for almost two millennia, believing that they are the last hope for mankind.
2,236 2018-03-10 18:37:40
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
My thanks to everyone for their input. I'm definitely going to go with an AI god. That means I can now tell you that my original plan for the end of the series was two male aliens, the last of their species, playing "chess" with the human race by using advanced technology embedded inside the boys' brains for instantaneous two-way communication to pretend to be all the characters in their heads. They've been playing this game for millennia, steering the course of mankind for their own amusement. Alexander the Great, Emperor Augustus, Hitler, Stalin - they were all under the control of the aliens. I might try to fit that into the Aussie subplot, although I think that's more complexity than I could readily incorporate into the story.
2,237 2018-03-10 18:22:05
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
It just occurred to me that Queen Aussie could serve as the 'artifact' in Seabrass's post above. Since Acme, Inc. manufactures everything in the book, and Professor Hinkley is thought to be alive in the future, sending back messages in time to his company, Aussie could include programming from the future. That might be worth dropping my original ending to the series in favor of an AI god.
I would probably drop the whole drag queen bits, though, since they're not working in the story, in my opinion. I especially dislike her in the prologue, in the middle of a desperate battle.
I'll still need to hijack a religion for Aussie's plan to work. That will entail doing something about the irreverent chapters. I would add something to the Church of Britannia, such as a Third Testament to their Bible, addressing why Jesus didn't return yet, and hint that the Church has found some evidence that Jesus was married and may have had children.
2,238 2018-03-10 04:53:17
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Imagine how much story data Lucasfilm is tracking for both canon and non-canon stories. They have a team dedicated to this.
2,239 2018-03-10 04:42:08
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,461 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I have 650 lines in my names bible for my old book (90 rows just for the characters), and that was easy compared to what I'm going for this time around. Fortunately, a much smaller cast of characters, but Connor is going on a Middle East tour of many of the exact places visited by Jesus, as documented in the Bible. Few of them exist as they did in His time. In some cases, the original location is buried under new villages or monuments built over top. Even the Church of the Nativity is probably in the wrong location. There are a number of sites on the Web that say the translation from the original Gospels for Jesus's birthplace should have been interpreted as a spare or lower room in a private home, which is where people often stayed when the inn was full. It was customary in Palestine in that era. Bethlehem was Joseph's ancestral home, and it's highly unlikely he couldn't find a relative or friend with a place for Mary to give birth. It's too bad I never did database programming. A database would be ideal for this much data.
2,240 2018-03-09 23:18:33
Re: Guard or guard? (15 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Ah. Good point. My German grandparents are cursing me from Heaven. Or do I mean heaven? (Gott im Himmel!)
2,241 2018-03-09 19:17:54
Re: Guard or guard? (15 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Thanks, JP. It fits with other have said as well.
2,242 2018-03-09 17:20:47
Re: Guard or guard? (15 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Yup. Thanks
2,243 2018-03-09 15:45:22
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Church of Britannia might be better than Church of England, especially if I introduce a Third Testament (written a few hundred years into the future) addressing why Jesus didn't return after the Great Collapse of Civilization, which had to be the Great Tribulation of Revelation. Surprisingly, the Antichrist was a woman, namely Dr. Ess. Also, I need some way to justify why Jesus didn't return before humans left earth and colonized the stars. The new prophecies will mysteriously foreshadow the events of the book.
I still need to consider how much of Charles's suggestions I can use. It breaks things I had planned for future books, but we'll see.
2,244 2018-03-09 15:20:02
Re: Guard or guard? (15 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Thank you, both. K, your examples are dead on. Too bad you weren't around when I was fighting with the rest of my capitalization problems. :-)
2,245 2018-03-09 08:50:32
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Thanks, Charles. It's an interesting premise, and I've already set up the idea of time travel with Professor Hinkley's coconut-powered time machine. However, I have a different ending in mind when it's time for the boys to meet God. I could toss it, but I'll need to think about the pros and cons of your suggestion before I make a decision. Fortunately, I have years to make up my mind.
Thanks for your input.
Dirk
2,246 2018-03-09 07:38:27
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Did some reading about the Church of England. It's very diverse, incorporating both Catholic and Protestant elements. I can probably add a Third Testament to their Bible necessitated by the Great Collapse of Civilization and galactic colonization, including all kinds of prophecies that could be interpreted as fulfilled by Joseph, and then by Apollo when he converts the Imperium to Christianity. New Bethlehem would become New Britannia.
2,247 2018-03-09 05:57:02
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
A religion descended from Christianity sounds very good, although I'll need to define a number of new beliefs before Joseph turns them inside out. I think Dr. Ess should feature prominently. How do you feel about being the 'Antichrist That Wast', Amy? There could also be prophecies about a teen prophet born in the 41st century and the destruction of New Bethlehem. I could include Bible excerpts similar to the Galactipedia articles.
I don't think I'll use the Mormons, though. Not prominent enough. And Protestants are too diverse (although that would make it easy to create a denomination that veers off course over two thousand years). Since Joseph is (currently) crown prince of his home world and is descended from Queen Elizabeth, I think I prefer the Church of England. I just need to be careful not to piss off the British by modifying their religion before Joseph turns it upside down.
The best time to rewrite this would definitely be after the Unholy Trinity series, since I'll have a lot more knowledge about Christianity and the Bible by the time I'm done. I'm also sick of Into the Mind of God, so it's definitely time for a break. I'll also need time to eventually research the Church of England.
Really cool solution. Thank you, both.
2,248 2018-03-09 02:37:01
Topic: Guard or guard? (15 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I have an elite force of guards in my story called the Elite Guard. When I want to be formal, I refer to an individual of this force as an Elite Guard, and multiple of them as Elite Guards. This is consistent with how I've seen this done in other fiction and in real life (e.g., the Pope's Swiss Guard).
But ... what do I do when I want to be informal? Can I refer to them as guard/guards, or should it be Guard/Guards? The latter looks goofy when I write it that way. A similar case comes from one of Seabrass's stories. In his case, he uses City Watchman for an individual guard and will occasionally drop City, leaving Watchman.
Thanks
Dirk
2,249 2018-03-08 18:41:04
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Thanks, Amy. Although I didn't consider the Roman pantheon, I did think of taking out Christianity, either by ripping out all religion, or by creating a new religion in the heads of both boys. The Roman gods is an interesting idea, although neither boy currently believes in those gods. The Imperium celebrates the Roman gods as part of their culture, but doesn't necessarily believe in them. I could change that to a resurrected belief system.
I wouldn't want to replace all of Joseph's ghosts with Roman gods, however. Joseph's belief that the ghosts are real people in his life are what help convince him that they are the real spirits of dead family and friends. Part of the problem with the belief in, say, Zeus as the god in their heads is that the reader won't believe they're real, so they must be mentally ill. At least with Christianity (my likely target audience), there is a degree of belief that the voices, especially God's, could be real.
There is quite a bit of crossover in v3 between Joseph and Apollo. They regularly exchange testy messages in act I (in the epigraphs) about current events, and are at each other's throats in act II. I'll have to think if there is still more I can do to pitch them against each other. Act III necessarily separates them, with Joseph in prison and Apollo fighting his military.
If Apollo heard more voices (including his dead beast friend, Germanus, and his assassinated father, Nero), that would make the two boys's experiences very similar. Nero will definitely wind up in Apollo's head in any rewrite. I had intended to make Nero's ghost part of v3 before deciding to shelve the book.
Joseph hearing the devil would either cause him to resist it at all turns (as Apollo does with God), or require Joseph to turn evil as part of his character arc, which was a change planned for book two of the series, when Billie (Joseph's evil demon) regularly learns how to take over his body. This makes it somewhat similar to later Dune books, where Paul Atreides's sister Alia is overwhelmed by the ghosts in her head and makes a deal with her evil dead grandfather to silence the voices at the expense of eventually losing control to him.
I'll spend some time thinking about all of these options. Completely ripping out Christianity would almost certainly break much of the story, however. Since that is my primary target market, I'll probably keep it in, but eliminate or at least tone down the chapters that would be most objectionable to my planned audience.
Great food for thought. Thank you.
2,250 2018-03-08 11:25:01
Re: Lupus's blue eyes burned with exasperation (42 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
A facepalm? :-)