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(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Norm d'Plume wrote:
Linda Lee wrote:

After a little time on the site, here are some of the things that I feel could still use adjustment:
5. A way to flag something as edited and up for new review--within the same project. We shouldn't have to be creating entirely new projects for edits of existing projects. And I really don't want to be forced to scan through these multiple versions of the same project to ensure I'm seeing/saving/using all the valuable feedback.

Linda, I don't understand the above about item 5. Why not simply increment the version number on the chapter in question, within the same project? You can then either hide the old version(s) of the same chapter, or leave several of them up for others to compare them, assuming they want to read the old and the new content. I assume the versioning capability applies to short stories, poems, etc. although I haven't tried that.

I must be missing something.

Thanks.
Dirk

Hey Dirk,
As I understand it (and trust me when I say my understanding is still wobbly), changing version numbers does not generate a for points 'new' content listing. Therefore, unless you make announcements and send private messages to everyone, it will never be seen as an edited version and they won't earn points for reviewing the rewrite.  In order to generate a new content listing that offers points, you need to create an entirely new project--even if it's just an edited version of an already existing project. He's done this to replace the old 'republish' feature. While I like the fact that he did away with the exorbitant point sucker, I don't like being forced to turn a single project into endless multiples in order to continue getting valuable rewrite feedback.

It's not super different from the old site if you were like me and rarely paid the premium republish points, but I was so hoping the 'version' tab on this site would function as a new listing conduit so we wouldn't have to go through those hurdles. Also, the benefit of having ALL feedback (from draft through multiple rewrites) contained within the single project would be EXTREMELY time saving and invaluable.

Hopefully that explains it a little better.

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(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Rosie Zander wrote:

Hi Dirk. Thanks  for the welcome. It's great to be here smile. For what it's worth, I like all of your suggestions. I think wishlists are great. But as a writer, I wanted to make a statement about what appears to me, as a newbie, to see some of this as a bitch list. It is the first thread I read when I came to the site so I was a bit surprised. Especially since I have enjoyed my experience so far. Reading through this though, you'd think the site sucked and was falling apart.

Rosie, Temple et al,  many of us commenting on this thread have been members of The Next Big Writer for many years (9 years for me) and have migrated to this site from a far simpler community oriented workshop site. As you may imagine, when you have something that worked well for so long, adapting to HUGE SWEEPING CHANGE can be more than a little unnerving. But you should know that the opinions given in this thread were solicited by Sol. He's always been dedicated to improving workflow when it comes to what's most important to newbies and oldies alike; i.e. giving and getting writing feedback.

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(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

After a little time on the site, here are some of the things that I feel could still use adjustment:

1. 'Connections" automatically populating your home page. I want the choice of what populates my page.

2. Keeping up with people (as compared to the old site) is a laborious click fest. Between searching through review replies, or replies of replies, forum after forum after forum, private messages, quickies....it's a fractured mess and I don't feel one bit connected to folks anymore.

3. Hand in hand with #1, I resent that the same covers for the same essays and articles sit on my homepage (and presumably all homepages) for weeks because those genres are nowhere near as prolific as the books/novels category. Yet, novelists are lucky if their cover shows up on everyone's homepage for an hour.

4. Whole 1st page upload listings being populated by a single writer/project because they're posting multiple chapters at once. It would be nice to be able to do that without skewing everyone's homepage view. Perhaps if each cover showed chapters 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 42 uploaded as new content--instead of parsing it out to be 6 separate covers with only a single chapter listed in each, would solve this issue entirely.

5. A way to flag something as edited and up for new review--within the same project. We shouldn't have to be creating entirely new projects for edits of existing projects. And I really don't want to be forced to scan through these multiple versions of the same project to ensure I'm seeing/saving/using all the valuable feedback. Talk about a fractured click-fest. On the flip side, because there is often a lapse of time between reads/reviews, I rely very heavily on my past reviews to catch me back up with where I left off on someone's project. Not having that easily accessible, or worse, being forced to click into infinity before I find my last review on that person's project just so I can leave new comments--it's a serious mess that can't be overstated. The last review I did took me a full 20 minutes to begin because I had to go searching for my last review. Then, by the time I found and read it, I'd forgotten all the stuff I wanted to say on the new one so I had engage in the click-fest again to navigate back to the new content and refresh myself....all before I could write a single word of critique. This has seriously cut into my available review time and as a result, I've cut my reviews back by about 60%.

6. Remove the forced homepage listings and create a GLOBAL upload listing of new work that we can either access through a drop down, or if it has to be connected to our homepage, give us the option to turn it off and on from view. That way we can access listings of new works with ease, yet not have our homepage cluttered with stuff we don't necessarily want to see on a daily basis (see #3). Ideally, I would like the option of deciding what populates my homepage (see #1).

There's more, but these are the biggest things I'm noticing with the most frequency.

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(16 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

That button is new to most of us old members too so I wouldn't worry.

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(9 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Strongest Start time of year--it ALWAYS happens.

I got the identical review from alayton. I don't begrudge someone trying to earn enough points to enter the contest, but perhaps a note from you regarding cutting and pasting reviews won't fly around here.

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(12 replies, posted in HodgePodge)

Terri

Do tell, has the class been worth the price so far? I was very tempted to try it, but figured I'd wait to hear about it before considering the next one. That price felt steep to me for an 'online' classroom.

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(1 replies, posted in Old forums)

Your review reply got me thinking....

I don't think you need a prologue in order for your readers to get an idea of who Matthew is. The primary reason I made that comment about the difficulty in getting to know him was because I felt you spent too much time splitting your focus so you could introduce a cast of characters rather than zeroing us in on your MC. In that sense, the 'fix', if you will, isn't to write a prologue about Matthew, it would be to consider shifting your focus from broad spectrum to a narrower one. The presence of so many faces steals power away from your MC because the scope of action is so broad amongst those faces. Not only is it difficult to try and remember all of them, but the action jumps around just enough that it becomes difficult to get a bead on any one of them sufficiently. 

If you consider narrowing your writing focus to only what Matthew sees, hears, thinks, or is concerned about within the main action, not only will the reader get a much clearer picture of him, it also gives you the platform to introduce the most important element of any first chapter: Hatching your plot via significant situation.

Also, you commented about the original POV of Catherine's being too internal or introspective, thus being an action killer. I don't know who gave you that advice, but I'd urge you to read up on the subject before heeding the advice.  As long as the introspection is happening within the relative action, and not stalling the forward movement, intimate narrative is a vitally important tool for inviting your reader into your protagonist's world. It allows room to highlight the personal side/toll of the stakes within the 'significant situation' as the protag is forced to react/act. I.E. allowing the reader to get to know the character.

It is for the above reason that I preferred your first version from Catherine's POV because to a large degree, you accomplished giving us a firm look at her, as well as imparting a ton of key plot information within her introspection.

Hope this helps.

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(4 replies, posted in Old forums)

Wait a few more days Janet. I've rewritten one, but have only just begun on 2 & 3. I'll shout when the newer versions of those are up.

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(4 replies, posted in Old forums)

To those of you who've finished Sister Margaret's One Big Lie, would you mind leaving word here, or dropping me a note with overall observations or anything you think I should consider tweaking in the rewrite? I'm just beginning the first big pass on it and would love the feedback. Thanks!
PS Also wanting critical eyes on first three chapters for SS contest.

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(13 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Welcome Shearluck!  We have a huge group of people that have been with an older version of this site for many years. But like you, there is a giant new crop of new faces that have just arrived since the new site interface was launched. It might be a little tough getting attention right away, but there's a few things you can do to help.

First, review as much as possible. As a reciprocal workshop, reviewing is our communication bread and butter. The more you do it, the more people you'll get to know. It takes a little time, but since that's what this site is really all about, it's the best first approach. Second is to join the group called OLD FORUMS and get to know some of the long-time members who comment there most often. Unlike some of the newer faces, we're a bit more familiar with tips and tricks for getting this site to work for you.

Good luck! I hope your membership turns out to be what you're looking for.

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(9 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:

Hey, Rebecca, there are only 3 chapters.

Thanks, Linda. If you'll hit # 3, I'll be in heaven.

Done. And I'm happy to elaborate on anything you may not understand.

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(9 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

I have company flying in tomorrow, but I'll try to get on it as soon as possible.

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(5 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

janet reid wrote:

Hey everyone

I've decided to enter the Strongest Start Comp, so I may be quiet for a while to fix what I would like to call Northern Skies Chapter 1!  But I will be back!!!

xx

Janet, start a new project and upload your rewritten first 3 for feedback. It's an invaluable tool!

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(27 replies, posted in Old forums)

Grats Janet!  I'm in rewrite hell, but loving every minute of it.

Dirk, the list of judges are found at the link Sol provided.

Great news!!  But just as a bug FYI, the link you offered takes you to contest info--clicking into the provided links of past winners takes you to the wrong works.

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(10 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

Number 1 rule: Do extensive research on WRITING for that genre. Romance is probably one of the more stringent genres for formula expectation. Knowing those expectations ahead of time saves a ton of time/frustration. And your suggested rule, Janet, is the largest of the formula 'must haves' at #1.

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(2 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Thought you'd like to know that I finally began receiving review notifications via email today for the first time since the migration. Yay!

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(28 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

The Notebook, Love Actually, Notting Hill, Dear Frankie, Shakespeare in Love, and Brassed Off, are some of my favorites that I watch time and time again.  A few others like; Dear John, Sleepless in Seattle, Sense & Sensibility, Emma, While You Were Sleeping, Pretty Woman, Pride & Prejudice, Dirty Dancing, and The Holiday are ones I enjoy seeing again when I can't find anything else. And then there are dozens more, many from lists already on this thread that I've seen and loved, but may not watch again.

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(27 replies, posted in Old forums)

Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:

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(27 replies, posted in Old forums)

The last of my current wip: Sister Margaret's One Big Lie is now up. For you loyal reviewers, THANK YOU!

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(4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

sweet!

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(4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Basic)

Actually Tom, I should have been more clear. By reply in kind I wasn't referring to returning the review so much as replying to the review they received. It lets the reviewer know that their efforts were seen and appreciated.

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(0 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Some of the newer members might not be aware of this...

When someone takes the time to review your work it's a common courtesy to reply in kind. Even if it's just a simple thank you, that little bit of communication lets the reviewer know that you saw and appreciate their effort.