Topic: writing software - does anyone use it? recommendations ...

I just got a free trial of Scrivener but I must admit I am finding it so confusing that the help I thought it would give me is totally lost on me ... I tried the tutorial but that did not help ... just wondering if anyone else has used this software, is there something easier to navigate ... I'd love to hear the experiences of others ...
Thanks,
Deidre

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I tried it with a free tril as well, but also found it confusing. It seemed like a great organization tool, but in the end I figured you have to be organized enough to use it. I have a few Excel spreadsheets that I've created that help me keep track of things.

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I read a review of Scrivener not too long ago. The reviewer said one of its biggest drawbacks is the difficulty importing from MS Word. So, if you work with an editor and use track changes and MS Word comments to go back and forth like I do, you'll end up doing a lot of cutting and pasting to get it back in, which also means you can forget about track changes and comments. If it wasn't for that critical limitation I might have bought it.

Instead, I write using MS Word, where I've configured the grammar checker to my taste, and the document map that works with my chapter headings. The document map (available on the View tab/ribbon) is great because it lists all of my chapters; with a single click, I can jump to any chapter I want.

Like penang, I use a spreadsheet to keep track of every named item I have in my story (stars, planets, ships, characters, military ranks, etc.). I also have a Word document for my story and chapter outlines, and another one for research information and a long list of to dos. I should probably split the last file in two.

I've gotten through almost two drafts that way with minimal overhead or fuss.

Dirk

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

Like penang, I use a spreadsheet to keep track of every named item I have in my story (stars, planets, ships, characters, military ranks, etc.).

Dirk

I was wondering: in the type "space opera"  -- of which I have read something by Orson Scott Card, and I did have this problem because I read fiction very slowly; a novel takes me a year -- if the author has to go to extraordinary external means to keep track of his stars, planets, ships, etc. how is a reader to keep all that together in his head? Or is it the creation is quite different from the consumption?

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There are two answers:
a) I have more named entities in my spreadsheet than I will probably ever use. For example, I have ten classes of warships, ten classes of weapons, etc., but I ony sprinkle some of those names in here and there to add a little realism. So far, I've only ever mentioned one ship class by name in the book. Similarly I have ship names (only three in book one), and ship types that are easy to understand (e.g., starfighter, troop carrier, civilian transport, etc.).
b) I remind the reader what the named entity is. For example, rather than saying Dawn, I refer to it as the planet Dawn or the rebel planet, etc. Similarly, rather than saying General Equitius, I say General Equitius, the Imperial physician. In my case, it's especially important because those planets and characters generally only appear once every two chapters (I alternate back and forth between two interwoven stories.

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Yes, I don't remember what Orson Scott Card did, but  putting the name with a context, and not just the name, helps.  Names and relationship of people are usually harder to do and especially over volumes.

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I tried Scrivener too. It was good but frankly it was too much.

I liked that I could do independent chapters and reorder them but without a strong grammer and spell check I'm out on it. Plus, the conversion to Word (something they called compile) was so confusing as to not be useful. Overall, I think it was a good tool but just not for me. My skills as a writer don't need a full toolbox at this stage....just the large hammer of sit-down-and-write-stupid.

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I use yWriter5. It is a product of Spacejock Software. For more information go to www.spacejock.com
The software was developed by a mad-scientist who likes to write science fiction. I like it, even though I don't write science fiction. However, like other writing software there is a learning curve. I am very comfortable with it. It will do most of the things Scrivener does. It is free, if you like it the developer, suggests you can contribute money to Spacejock Software. Sincerely, John

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I used Scrivener for novel #3, and am using it now for novel #4. I like it a lot, BUT I would qualify that by saying it works for me because it's set up in a way that easily accommodates my own organizational habits when it comes to writing. Also, exporting to Word, which has to happen sooner or later, is not exactly seamless. It's very important to go back through the compiled word document and make sure everything is formatted the way you want it to be.

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I use WriteWay which I recommend because it allows to take note, organise your chapters and back and front material, description of characters etc. It's main drawback is the lack of a decent spelling checker and a good thesaurus, so what I do is I write in Microsoft Word and then copy and paste everything to WriteWay. You would ask why then use WriteWay at all. Answer is because the rest of the features that keep your novel perfectly well organised.

http://www.writewaypro.com/


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Gacela

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Thanks to everyone for the feedback, it's helpful and I think Scrivener is not for me but this discussion has given me some things to think about ... d

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I use Scrivener--it's got a deep learning curve but once you're through it, it's a very powerful piece of software. I LOVE that I can compile to nearly every available format. I love the organizational tools. Someone else mentioned it not having a strong spell/grammar check feature, but it does. I'm no where near knowing the program well, but I certainly know it well enough now to appreciate what a great piece of software it is. I recommend it highly.