Topic: A Slow Death

It’s hard to accept a slow death
You instinctively feel it
Though you try to deny it
The diagnosis is wrong
The charts are mixed up
The warning signs simply misinterpreted
You don’t want to talk about it
For fear that in itself will make it true
But you hear the whispers
And then the words of encouragement
There’s always hope
New treatments and methods on the horizon
Lots of time to find the miracle cure
We’ll plead with the creator
With faith anything is possible
In the beginning everyone stands tall
Your friends call more frequently
And then slowly they begin to tail off
Only the most inner circle is left
Despite new acquaintances along the way
They don’t really understand what it’s like
For they don’t feel the slow death
They don’t see the layers of the soul
Peeling off like onion skin
Bringing tears which you try to hide
With a brave façade that everything is normal
When every day that passes
No radical solutions come to light
And you realize that gnawing inside
Is growing stronger
Past promises slide further into the past
Still you cling to the few who remain
Committed to fight the honorable fight
Perhaps not ignore the inevitable
But rather face it head on
With dignity befitting what it once was
The slow death gives you time
To come to terms
To set priorities
For the time which remains
To pay tribute to all those
Who were an integral part
Of what once was
And will survive in our memories
Of The Next Big Writer
Before the slow death came

Take care. Vern

2 (edited by Marilyn Johnson 2018-01-14 20:50:01)

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Well done!  That just about says it all, doesn't it?  I hate to see the end coming because it's been a place of higher education for me, a learning experience never to be forgotten.  Old friends and acquaintances linger, but every day I wonder for how much longer.  I hate to see the downhill slide, but I feel it in these old bones. We will survive for a few days longer, even with our leader no longer leading, our cheerleaders no longer cheering, our teachers teaching to empty classrooms. 

It's been a fun ride for me since 2008.  I wish something would come along to breathe new life into the mob!  My red pen has run out of ink, though I need a gallon of it now.

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Jeez, what the hell did I miss?

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jack the knife wrote:

Jeez, what the hell did I miss?

Whining practice...

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Not sure what to say. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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*puts feet up in the recliner, adjusts blanket*
*crunches popcorn*
(But has the remote handy in case it’s not the drama he anticipates.....)

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Whew! It sounded like TNBW was being disbanded, and I wondered how I missed it. It wasn't trending on Twitter.

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SolN wrote:

Not sure what to say. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Ahh, he returns from The Great Pyramid. Observations and/or rumors do come alive in one's absence. What to say? Back in August of last year, you announced a contest for the next week. So you might see where the slow demise is coming from. The low level of current participation is a prescription for a slow death of stagnation with signs of early rigor mortis. Yes, it is only my opinion -- but is it really? It might also be a wake up call. Take care. Vern

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Back in August of last year, you announced a contest for the next week.

Fair enough. I haven't posted a lot in the forum but I have been busy keeping the site running, working on new things, dealing with bugs, etc. But I do agree it is time for a new contest. We've had a large increase of new users lately so it's a good time. Anyone have any thought or suggestions? I have a few in mind but I'm open to better ideas.

Sol

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Well, now that we're all swallowing, gasping for air, with our hands on our bosoms, why not have a contest with the theme, "A Slow Death?"

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Most improbable romance.  No dream-worlds.  Max 3300 word.

For more frequent, lighter contests: caption contests.  Prize of 50 review points.

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njc wrote:

Most improbable romance.  No dream-worlds.  Max 3300 word.

For more frequent, lighter contests: caption contests.  Prize of 50 review points.

Don't really care what the subject is, but any number of review points would be pretty worthless to many who will never use what they already have. Take care. Vern

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Sol, I've suggested this before: post a release note on a regular basis (doesn't need to be detailed) about what you're working on or have implemented. It helps to know you're actively working on the site. Makes it feel less lonely since barely anyone is posting in the forums right now. I was really surprised to see that the Mysteries & Thrillers forum has never been used. I talk up the site on Facebook when I can in the writing groups. A short post from you per week would raise interest. You could also elicit feedback about what your plans/priorities are.

14 (edited by j p lundstrom 2018-01-15 15:35:06)

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SolN wrote:

Anyone have any thought or suggestions?
Sol

Yes! Best Western (play on words there)--historical or modern
There are so many ways the Western can be treated, it offers something for everyone, and it's a genre we haven't dealt with before. Here's a sampling (from online sources):
Types of Westerns
•    Classical Western—crime, pursuit and retribution
•    Acid Western—bizarre characters and occurrences, use of maimed and dwarf performers, and heavy doses of Christian symbolism and Eastern philosophy.
•    Charro, or Chili Westerns—standard of Mexican cinema, horsemen in rural Mexican society, with cultural concerns very different from the Hollywood meta-narrative,
•    Comedy Western—imitative in style in order to mock, comment on, or trivialize the Western genre
•    Contemporary Western—contemporary American settings utilizing Old West themes and motifs
•    Electric Western—performing rock bands in an otherwise American West setting.
•    Epic Western—emphasizes the story of the American Old West on a grand scale, often set during a turbulent time, especially a war,
•    Euro-Western (Spaghetti Western)--include revenge seeking, rough violence, bandits, bounty hunters, etc.
•    Fantasy Western—mix in fantasy settings and themes, and may include Fantasy mythology as background
•    Noir Western—cynicism, character complexities, flawed outlaw heroes, and dark pessimism.
•    Revisionist Western—takes the side of Native Americans
•    Horror Western--aliens, monsters,vampires,etc.

In addition, there’s
•    Time travel
•    Knight errant
•    Romance
•    Mystery
Which can all be set in the West, historical or modern.

Who needs ho-hum inner-city when the Western offers such variety?

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j p lundstrom wrote:
SolN wrote:

Anyone have any thought or suggestions?
Sol

Yes! Best Western (play on words there)--historical or modern
There are so many ways the Western can be treated, it offers something for everyone, and it's a genre we haven't dealt with before. Here's a sampling (from online sources):
Types of Westerns
•    Classical Western—crime, pursuit and retribution
•    Acid Western—bizarre characters and occurrences, use of maimed and dwarf performers, and heavy doses of Christian symbolism and Eastern philosophy.
•    Charro, or Chili Westerns—standard of Mexican cinema, horsemen in rural Mexican society, with cultural concerns very different from the Hollywood meta-narrative,
•    Comedy Western—imitative in style in order to mock, comment on, or trivialize the Western genre
•    Contemporary Western—contemporary American settings utilizing Old West themes and motifs
•    Electric Western—performing rock bands in an otherwise American West setting.
•    Epic Western—emphasizes the story of the American Old West on a grand scale, often set during a turbulent time, especially a war,
•    Euro-Western (Spaghetti Western)--include revenge seeking, rough violence, bandits, bounty hunters, etc.
•    Fantasy Western—mix in fantasy settings and themes, and may include Fantasy mythology as background
•    Noir Western—cynicism, character complexities, flawed outlaw heroes, and dark pessimism.
•    Revisionist Western—takes the side of Native Americans
•    Horror Western--aliens, monsters,vampires,etc.

In addition, there’s
•    Time travel
•    Knight errant
•    Romance
•    Mystery
Which can all be set in the West, historical or modern.

Who needs ho-hum inner-city when the Western offers such variety?

Kitchen sink chronicles.....

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Yeah, it's amazing what those twenty years of American history have done for the culture.

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jack the knife wrote:

Jeez, what the hell did I miss?

Fake News

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Dill Carver wrote:

Fake News

And we're off!

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What can I say? I've been busy writing!

Two books done, a third on the way. Going to release them all at once.

20 (edited by Clark Langley 2018-01-19 21:25:15)

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Hello,

I'm still a "newbie" here, relatively speaking. I thought I'd post to this thread and offer my perspective, for whatever it's worth.

I joined in late September, early October, but stopped participating for three months, after only receiving feedback from two or three people (Marilyn, Ann, and someone I blocked after being told to go back to the second-grade teacher mentioned in my Chapter One and ask her to show me how to use a dictionary, no joke) (and that my dialogue was hokey). That was my first review. I don't mind candor, but well now... 

It was frustrating for me, as a new member, to write numerous reviews and not receive many, even if folks might not be interested in the story or genre.

I've been on other sites where new members receive a minimum of five reviews, and they stay at the top of the feed until those quotas are met. Some sites close reviews after a person gets so many, to allow for others' work to be reviewed.

Some of those sites also enforce a "no insult" policy and give reviewers warnings if they find comments in very poor taste.

That said, even with the few I have received here, I feel this site is much better because of the quality of the writing (compared to other sites). The editing and input of the reviewers, sometimes harsh and soul-wrenching, is much more candid and useful. I saw a post from one writer who recently stated that she hadn't received such honest feedback from family, writers' groups or other sites as she found here (she just joined a day or two ago). I share that sentiment.

For now, I've decided the value (for me, as a relatively new member) is in reading and reviewing others' work.

On a side note, I think this site would have more traffic if you developed a "songwriting" section where folks could post lyrics and demos for review and input. I hear they give out Pulitzer Prizes now for songwriters... Just a thought.

Clark L.

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Clark, you have fourteen reviews of three chapters in your book. Also, I know I reviewed at least one of your chapters. If you haven't already, post a new thread in Premium asking for reviewers with whom you can reciprocate. Include a description of your story and the kind of feedback you're looking for. If there are particular genres you like to read, mention that too, although that may limit who reads your book.

22 (edited by Clark Langley 2018-01-19 23:09:50)

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Thanks, Norm. 
You're kind. I appreciate the advice; I'm not asking for reviews right now.

I was giving my perspective as a new member who had dropped out, and why I decided to return to the site. Well, that and I'd paid.

So, I'll sum up differently:
1) I found it shocking that the first communication I'd received as a newbie was a person telling me to go back to second grade and learn to use a dictionary. It takes a lot of guts for a person to post writing on a site like this the first time. Candor, sure. Insults, unacceptable. (I mean, unless we're friends.)
2) The number of reviews I'd given far outweighed the number received. I understand that's how it works, but at first, I was surprised. On other sites, newbie works are highlighted differently, and stay listed until a quota is met.

On the flip side in favor of TNBW,
1) I noticed a handful of people who tended to reach out to new writers - Ann, Marilyn - over and again. I felt as if these two reinforced "the writing community" that people often seek when they come here.
2) The quality of the reviews tends to be better on this site than others.

- Clark

P.S. Yes, you did indeed review an "Antsy" chapter in Part II (and took a second look at it for me, thank you). It's currently inactive because I'm reworking that part of the book.

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Clark,

A belated welcome to TNBW!  Understand being shocked by the first communication you received. While there are one or two people on the site who seem to delight in insulting new members, the majority of the people I've met since joining in June 2015 have been extremely supportive. I agree with Norm's comment about putting out a note when you're ready again for reviews. Enjoy the site--it's a great place to be.

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Usually, it’s possible to follow the thread and see how this forum’s topics veer off the rails within the first page.  It’s like a maze that way, or a Word Search.

Then, at other times, there’s just no rhyme or reason to it.  Just random flings, like a drunk sailor walking into a bar, swinging a bottle, sloshing it around. 

Fascinating.

*crunch, crunch*  waits for absurd ad hominem attack....tick, tick, tick....

25 (edited by S. L. Garber-Ortiz 2018-01-19 23:47:13)

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I have to agree with you, Clark As a newbie, I was fortunate during my first few days on this site to be immediately greeted by a small, yet nurturing community of writers. And have continued to connect with some very talent authors.
The point that is being missed here is that a review/line-edit needs to be delivered in a constructive, thoughtful, and conscientious tone so as to guide the author, not dismember them.
As the saying goes, “Those who live in glass houses shouldn't...blah, blah, blah.” And if they do, they should be censured and censored.
That’s my two cents.
-Lynn