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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

OK, I figured out what was missing from the last posted chapter of Dictates. 300 new words added. Found my hook :-)

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Good add.  Do they have to spell Tazar well?

Now ....

If Behira's power couldn''t raise Jaylene, does that mean that Alda is someone else's conduit?  Not Behira's big sister, surely?

But the original version had Jaylene feeling Saundon's hot breath.  Hmm.

-Edit-- Does Zyrtec worship the informational Saundon?

When you have this done (and not before) you should read =The Moonstone= by Wilkie Collins.  Not quite a detective story, so Poe comes first, but the first true mystery novel--and a whale of a story.  It's a shame that Collins, like Mozart, died young.

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Hit by a bus?  :-)

Zyrtec worshiping Saundon...hmm. Didn't think about that one, but the 'all knowing' Chronomancer might be drawn to that. I'll consider it.

Re: If Behira's power couldn''t raise Jaylene, does that mean that Alda is someone else's conduit?  Not Behira's big sister, surely? (You are asking the right questions, but I'm not going to give up that side of the mystery until you get it right. If that happens, I'll let you know. Promise.)

What do you mean about spelling Tazar? Didn't understand the reference.

A

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will answer that 'spell' for Tazar in the next chapter. I have most of it figured out. Three more shifts and then I have 17 nights off on a row. Time for some me time. After that, it's back to the coal mines.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

"Spell him well" was your own usage at one point, when Anver was recovering but did not want to use magic for the purpose.

No, Collins succumbed to opium addiction.  (In =The Moonstone= there is a character revealed near the end to be caught between painful, terminal cancer and the painkiller he uses to remain functional.)

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

So either Jaylene was not most sincerely dead, but only mostly dead, or else her resurrection involves death magic?  But the only death magic we've seen has involved dead matter acting as though it were alive.

One seems sure: there are mysteries yet unfathom'd at the Earthwound.

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

OK, I figured out what was missing from the last posted chapter of Dictates. 300 new words added. Found my hook :-)

Here is my complete review - the one that's with the chapter was again cut short for no @#$&% apparent reason. Thank the Lady for "click to go back to the previous page* to recover more than half of your missing review. grrrrrrr

Mother protect us. Look at those teeth!
-- She describes everything in detail except the teeth, the teeth that really made her scared ... I'd also like to be clued in what they look like, throw me a bone please? Make me scared too?

Where is the light coming from? Is it more light now that the mist is gone? Maybe want to make clear, here or where Taz-man starts to see before he faints.

*snickers* I know Tazar didn't "faint" *snickers again* - when I start to give you/Taz witty crap like this, it means I like you lot, so it's a good thing, promise! smile

There was a bright blue strip running between (the) holes for the ears.
-- think it reads better/clearer with the additional 'the' YMMV

Mar. This is a mar. How in the Three Hells did Tazar know this thing was near?
-- Okay, so it was pretty special for Taz to have picked it up, but why? Because it's never been done before? Because it can't be done? Why haven't it been done before or why can't it be done? Like the teeth, I'd like to know why it's special - I might actually like Taz more, borderline impressed even, you never know, but if you can make readers more impressed with your characters, don't let the opportunity pass by i.e. don't underplay an incredible feat ever - you make me think of my performance reviews at work smile

Jaylene fought to keep panic out of her voice. “Valharic! Did you see if this thing was male or female?”
-- Did you see? Or 'can' you see? *subtle difference* The thing is still there - if Valharic hasn't noticed it yet, I'm sure a plan can be made since the thing is, you know, still there .... Lift the tail and, I don't know, check it out?

If you agree, then, the "No. Why?" should also change to something like "No. Why? Should I look?"

Next issue, and this is a biggy.

Clearly Valharic, as the reader, is on a 'need-to-know' basis and we do not need to know why the gender of this thing is important ... alrighty then, we're building a stretcher. <------ not good, Ms Amy. Why isn't Jaylene answering a simple question while I'm building a stretcher?

Good tension makes me ask questions I know I'll get answered as I read on. Where is the mate? is good tension, no, actually, brilliant tension. I will not put this damn book down before I know where is the mate! I"m chewing my nails. But why is the sex of this thing important? I can guess the answer, but why do I need to guess when a simple sentence can tell me straight off the bat what the underlying danger is from someone that KNOWS. (I'm guessing the male or female is bigger and stronger and we're looking at a female or male here ... but I'm guessing stuff that I really shouldn't be left guessing especially when it's a quick thing to fix/sort out). And added to that, a bit later on, why is it important that this thing give live birth and doesn't lay eggs? And why is laying eggs more dangerous than live births? What can those eggs do that a baby can't? *scratches my head* <---- not a good thing

This in my humble opinion is bad tension. It leaves me confused, uninformed and with questions I don't understand why it can't be answered right now? It was important enough to be raised right now, so why can't it be answered right now? It make me feel a little bit cheated by the author after reading through this chapter only to be left with questions that can be answered without too much effort - it's not good tension, it's a cheap shot withholding information for the sake of withholding information to artificially up the tension - but it isn't, it's leaving readers frustrated, not worried. That isn't something you want, I think.

I understand they need to move and get the stretcher built, but I don't understand WHY? Give me a bone, a small bone, please? And I'll go away. smile

Other than this, that is a great hook! Yeap, you found it. I wish I can end chapters like that!!! sad

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

will answer that 'spell' for Tazar in the next chapter. I have most of it figured out. Three more shifts and then I have 17 nights off on a row. Time for some me time. After that, it's back to the coal mines.

Sounds nice! Enjoy!!!!

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Question one: I have 17 whole days off where I don't have to leave the house, bathe, or get out of bed.

Janet, I like the idea of a 'strength' moment being treated like a power moment. Will clarify that Mar mate for life, hunt by scent, the priests and Tazar have either tracked through the blood or are wearing the blood of the mate, and Mar have been known to stalk prey for days.

The creature is a reactor. It hunts anything that smells of Behira. It can also use a magic similar to the rings in Tazar's prison. It can subtly control priests. Contact with Mar are typically disastrous. Yet Tazar knew something was wrong.

I'll correct the story to throw a bone. Great point.

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Oh, they can't look under the tail because I threw half the body into the abyss below the waterfall.

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

Oh, they can't look under the tail because I threw half the body into the abyss below the waterfall.

Sh#t! True, I forgot about that 'minor' detail. Glad you remember! LOL So next question - do they need to look under the tail or could there be other differences to tell? Say for example, males have a horn on their nose. I'm not sure, but maybe it could make your life easier throwing bones at readers. wink

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

Question one: I have 17 whole days off where I don't have to leave the house, bathe, or get out of bed.

Janet, I like the idea of a 'strength' moment being treated like a power moment. Will clarify that Mar mate for life, hunt by scent, the priests and Tazar have either tracked through the blood or are wearing the blood of the mate, and Mar have been known to stalk prey for days.

The creature is a reactor. It hunts anything that smells of Behira. It can also use a magic similar to the rings in Tazar's prison. It can subtly control priests. Contact with Mar are typically disastrous. Yet Tazar knew something was wrong.

I'll correct the story to throw a bone. Great point.

Lucky you! Enjoy the time off!!!

I actually got that bit with Taz-man feeling the rings from the prison again and that's from the creature i.e. got the bone, chewed the bone, *chomp-chomp* smile

But why does it matter whether it's female or male? Isn't it good enough to know no there's a mate that's going to hunt them down? Or does the gender of the mate doing the hunting matter and why?

Just questions I have, so that when you throw me  that bone, it's juicy enough, okay? smile

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I think the female would be larger, pissed, and in a hunting mood. If this was a lone male, then maybe there isn't another one of them laying in wait. That was the thought at the time, at least.

Like the idea of having a horn or ridge plate on their nose. That could be nice distinguishing feature.

A

939 (edited by janet reid 2015-11-27 05:13:03)

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

I think the female would be larger, pissed, and in a hunting mood. If this was a lone male, then maybe there isn't another one of them laying in wait. That was the thought at the time, at least.

Like the idea of having a horn or ridge plate on their nose. That could be nice distinguishing feature.

A

Alda would totes like to lift the tail to find out, me thinks. So maybe reconsider the body falling down the abyss and have the head go that way! Only for Jaylene to tell Alda the sex is determined from the horn on the nose. LOL

But yeah, if you explain why a male or a female would be crucial, let the body fly and with it any way of them telling it's sex. That's "good tension". We don't need to know if a male or a female is going to appear (or not appear), we just need to understand the gravity of knowing (or not knowing in this case) the slain beast's sex.

Hope this make sense! smile

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

And I have to say it again - that is a really great hook!

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The turtle lives twixt plated decks
Which practically conceal its sex.
I think it clever of the turtle
In such a fix, to be so fertile.
  ---O. Nash

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No, make it some detail inside the mouth or nose, where they have to open it up and look--carefully, for tho' you'd have said that head was dead, for its owner dead was he, it stood on its neck with a smile well-bred and bowed three####################################################it still reacts to Behira.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

OK, your corrections have been added to the Jaylene analysis at the end of the last chapter. I added better lighting, description of the teeth, the mar backstory, and bundled (fainted-snicker) Tazar on a stretcher. I kept the last line as a hook.

Janet, I like the idea of Alda using the tail as a joke, but the timing wasn't right. I can't put jokes there without messing with the tension.

Anybody have any thoughts about my improvised stretcher? I'm terribly proud of that one…

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

OK, your corrections have been added to the Jaylene analysis at the end of the last chapter. I added better lighting, description of the teeth, the mar backstory, and bundled (fainted-snicker) Tazar on a stretcher. I kept the last line as a hook.

Janet, I like the idea of Alda using the tail as a joke, but the timing wasn't right. I can't put jokes there without messing with the tension.

Anybody have any thoughts about my improvised stretcher? I'm terribly proud of that one…

Fully agree - not the time to be funny, it would destroy the tension of the hook especially. A better time for Alda to shine is when there are no more threats left and Tazar hasn't been hurt seriously. So keep that one in your back pocket - if you can use it, I'd be tickled pink. If not, so be it, also good.

I'm about to do some reviews again - will check out the updated version too! smile

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Will repost for points if you want

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Hey Amy. I am having trouble with submitting an xline review. I can do it but it seems there is a very specific process. When I complete my review and add comments I go to the top and hit xline and my comments disappear. so what are the steps  start with a inline save and post then go to xline. I just want to make sure you are getting every golden word of my reviews hyuk yuk yuk.

Ernie

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Do the  whole set of comments AND SUBMIT (not save!) w/out hitting the XLINE tab.  Use XLINE only once the review is complete and submitted.

XLINE is nice, but it was patched in afterward and wasn't part of whatever req'ment=>analysis=>design process they used (formal, semi-, in-, or un-).

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

Will repost for points if you want

No need for me, I write slow enough that points will never matter. smile

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So ... evil (the Defiler, presumably) can cut into Behira's magic ... but whatever has preserved and restored Jaylene can also do so  ... and that something APPEARS good, but might actually be trying to manipulate events toward its own ends, more likely ill than good.  So does Zyrt know what's happening?

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

No, I don't care about the points, just want to make sure all of my reviews get to you in xline mode--if that's what you prefer. I need to know when to press xline before I start my review or after I have completed  an inline review? I check Help, but there is nothing about xline.

Thanks,

Ernie

D"OH  sorry folks I didn't see yolur replies. I got it now thanks all.

Ernie