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Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B.

Lady K sucks.

I know because Dirk called you a beaver.

Truth.

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Kdot wrote:

"Mentally ill" is a polite word you're used to hearing used as a weapon against you if you suffer from any a mental health problem. I would recommend saving such a word for character speech. Used in the right place, it will really colour your principals. Used while I'm making a buying decision, it will worry me.

Many things in this book have the potential to be offensive to various groups (the mentally ill, gays, Christians, Italians, Japanese, ...). For better or worse, it's the correct word. What makes it seem strong is the stigma modern society still attaches to being mentally ill. The end of the trilogy is very uplifting to many who are "different", although it'll take me a decade before I finish it at my current pace. I'll get lots of attrocious reviews on Amazon for this book in the meantime. I'm not doing it to sell so much as to keep my mind active. Is there a worst seller list on Amazon?

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amy s wrote:

If this is for a query, then there are things that need to be added to this. Like the title, word count, comps (similar books to visualize the plot) and classification for the story. IMO, you can't use the query for a blurb or synopsis. These need to be crafted individually.

Example:

INTO THE MIND OF GOD is a 75K HF novel set in the 41st century. Comps are STAR WARS meets the movie CALIGULA. The story centers around Joseph and Apollo, teens who grow up worlds apart but are both visited by a being who calls himself God. By cooperating and resisting divine intervention, both boys travel the universe as they fulfill their destinies. Apollo, heir...

You get the idea.

Helpful. Thank you. Nevertheless, it's a good starting point.

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bill kandiliotis wrote:

This is a tough one. having not read to the end yet, this 'real or imaginary' concept puts a heavy assumption in the readers head. The chances that two galactic young leaders suffering from delusions are slim so from reading this I would think God obviously has a hand in this, that there is some kind of cosmic master plan at play here, beyond the understanding of human beings. As a scifi reader I'd be looking for something like this. This story promises this. The title promises this. In the synopsis you lay out a major plot twist, and a scifi reader like me could feel that they might be cheated if they invest in this story. This could be end up being about mental illness and not about high cosmological/theological concepts, or left open ended.

I have a question that will help me better understand how to approach this.
Without spoiling the details in  final act of the story, have you made a decision on whether these boys are both delusional, or is God real in the Biblical sense, real is a high scifi conceptual sense, or is one delusional and the other not?

I address the chances of two young leaders having mental illness, beginning in chapter two, where I introduce the boys at various ages. I introduce God in Joseph's head at age 4 in 4005 AD. I introduce God in Apollo's head at age 7 in 4010 AD (Joseph is two years older than Apollo). I also establish that Joseph and Apollo are royal cousins (Empress Elizabeth is the sister of Queen Mary). Finally, I explain that mental illness runs in both families. My goal is for the odds of mental illness vs real God to be 50/50. I then walk a drunken line between the two possibilities, having fun throwing out clues one way, and then the next. It's a trilogy and I won't reveal the true answer until the end of book three, but I already know how I plan to end it. However, it's a long way to the end of the third book, and I may think of an even better ending.

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Kdot wrote:

@Bill K: Spoiler: Lady K is the best character ever. Waaaaay better than Dr Ess or Queen Aussie

i'll keep that in mind. wink

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Kdot wrote:

@Bill K: Spoiler: Lady K is the best character ever. Waaaaay better than Dr Ess or Queen Aussie

Wait until you see what I do with Mistress Billie! Gods this draft is going to be fun!

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I just found an extra use for Queen Aussie: Joseph's closest advisor (via Galaxinet) in developing the Christian Heresy. A homicidal droid in drag developing humanity's greatest religion. As always, this shit just writes itself. I'm also upping Billie's role to Anti-Christ.

I only just realized today that Bill, like Janet R., is from down under. And with both Kdot and me from I'm Freezing My Ass Off, that leaves only two people not using the Queen's English. They're easily identified by their orange complexions, well-coiffed rat pelts on their heads, and Nasty Women for Trump t-shirts. I would plan for a spike in emergency room visits on Nov. 8-9, Amy. Prime those muskets, NJC, in case Trump, Inc. gets the launch codes.

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I'm more afraid of Hillary converting her successes in the Middle East into worldwide conflagrations.  I wonder how those abandoned anthracite mines will do as fallout shelters.

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Can I interest you in a gently used igloo? Doubles as a source of fresh water. Avoid the yellow parts.

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Canada has the world's longest coastline and no means to defend it. sad

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Didn't you know? It was outsourced to Russia. They do an excellent job. Seen regularly off our coast.

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NJC runs screaming in random zigzags, leaving several NJC-shaped Looney-Tunes holes in the walls as he passes heedlessly through them.

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We will vigorously defend our coastline like our long-running war against the Danes for Hans Island (a war we are winning right now).

Think I'm kidding?
http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/hans … flict.html

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You just said that Janet is using the Queens English, Dirk. I'm gonna go hide now...

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She'll be speaking Amerlish before you know it. Check her writing for the Oxford Comma.

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Kdot wrote:

We will vigorously defend our coastline like our long-running war against the Danes for Hans Island (a war we are winning right now).

Think I'm kidding?
http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/hans … flict.html

Flip a damn coin. Problem solved. Of course that assumes they can agree on whose currency to use.

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Between Dirk and Kdot, this is the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

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amy s wrote:

You just said that Janet is using the Queens English, Dirk. I'm gonna go hide now...

I speak it proudly. The alternative is American/Canadian English. *shudders*

tongue big_smile

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

I'm also upping Billie's role to Anti-Christ.

this could be interesting. causing conflict and upsetting His plans.

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bill kandiliotis wrote:
Norm d'Plume wrote:

I'm also upping Billie's role to Anti-Christ.

this could be interesting. causing conflict and upsetting His plans.

Pfft. Conflict is for toddlers:

Billie seizes control over Joseph's body, turning his head until it's facing behind his body.
With furious effort and a roar, Joseph reasserts control. He jerks his head to face forward and his eyes go wide. He tells Andrew, I swear, if I hadn't stopped her, she would have twisted my head right off!

;-)

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The scene above with its nod to the Exorcist will probably be the moment when Joseph finally realizes he's harboring evil. There'll be innocent-looking clues leading up to it, of course. Her deep voice, just an unusually sore throat. Her eyes rolling up in her head, just her life fading from her little body. Naturally, Joseph coaxes her back from the brink. Just a day's work when you're a prophet.

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I just watched the Exorcist for the first time in decades. Holy cow! I had to turn on the lights to finish watching it. This is a good night to reread the Gospels before bed.

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The definition of a savior is that the person is aware of evil and tempted by it but chooses good. So I approve of the evil soul addition.

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I think the version of the Exorcist I saw was a director's cut or something. It would have been rated X in 1973 (e.g., Regan stabs her vagina (not shown) repeatedly with a cross, saying f*ck me, and bleeding profusely). Lots of R-rated cursing as well.

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

I think the version of the Exorcist I saw was a director's cut or something. It would have been rated X in 1973 (e.g., Regan stabs her vagina (not shown) repeatedly with a cross, saying f*ck me, and bleeding profusely). Lots of R-rated cursing as well.

it would struggle getting even a rating today. Society was a little more relaxed back in the 70's. that's why so much taboo/porn infiltrated the mainstream cinema. As a film maker, try doing any of these things today.

The exorcist (film and novel) is an awesome story on so many levels. One aspect that I like about it is this war between God and his rebellious 'creation'. We don't see this battle directly, only the symptoms, manifesting through events on Earth. when I read galaxy tales, with God playing a central role with everything, I can't help but interpret the story with this grand struggle.