Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B.
I'm going to have trouble sleeping just reading your posts Dirk.
Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi → The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B.
I'm going to have trouble sleeping just reading your posts Dirk.
Technically, God won't battle Billie. Joseph will. And, if God is to be believed, Billie winds up there because Joseph sacrifices someone critical to his quest who could have warned him not to save Billie from the fire. The Bible varies as to whether the antichrist is one person or many. I'll probably refer to it in the singular, making it a more potent evil.
Regan claimed to be the devil, but reacted to tap water as if she was being burned by holy water. Not sure what to make of that.
tap water counts as running water. Blocks certain powers in our mythology including vampirism (and including telepathy in my world)
Great thought, Bill. Not one that would have occurred to me, so you just made yourself a full member with all the rights and privileges thereof. Which is like zip, zero, nada, but it looks good on paper:-)
The definition of a savior is that the person is aware of evil and tempted by it but chooses good. So I approve of the evil soul addition.
I hadn't really planned to tempt Joseph so much as scare the hell out of him. His ghosts will increasingly become part of a hellishly integrated whole, although most of his downward spiral comes in book two. He needs to fight Billie to remain in control. She will slip out, however. Of course, the more he lets her out, the greater her ability to do so unexpectedly. Without intending it, these integrated ghosts have evolved to be rather similar to Alia and the Baron in Children of Dune.
Could someone please critique the following paragraphs for me, especially the second. I've received feedback in the past of dumping too much information too soon. We're in Apollo's POV.
EDIT: I included paragraph breaks suggested by NJC.
“Who are you talking to, asinus?” Caligula asked.
Asinus. Latin for ass. Few people Apollo knew ever cursed in the Universal Tongue, the language of the ruling elite and diplomacy. To do so was considered highly uncivilized. So the brothers fell back on Latin, even making up new words on the fly.
The above is very early in the book, in chapter two, where we first meet Apollo. The fact that Caligula swears in Latin seems like the right place to mention that they (almost) always curse in Latin, and why.
"No one, Bastardus,” Apollo said.
Bastardus. Short for Bastardus Minusculus. Coined by the emperor to humiliate Caligula in public. This was in retaliation against Caligula’s mother, Lady Kay, who fled Earth after her son’s birth, vowing never to marry Apollo’s scary father, Emperor Nero Julius Caesar Augustus VII. Were it not for her flight, Caligula, not Apollo, would be the Imperial heir.
Here, the fact that Apollo calls Caligula by the epithet coined by Nero seems like the right place to explain it. Each sentence builds on the previous one, ending with why Caligula is not the heir. I mention earlier in the chapter that Caligula is illegitimate, so it needs explaining somewhere, even though it's not critical to this scene. I'm using it flesh out an important piece of history.
Thoughts?
You have topic changes. Break the paragraph and compose each of the resulting paragraphs well.
The first one is pretty straight-forward, so I don't think there'd be any issues there. The second one might get confusing for the reader, not for the concept, but for the fact that there are four characters shoved into one short paragraph. De-mystifying this paragraph would entirely depend on which of the characters have already been introduced earlier in the chapter.
That's my two cents, at least.
Three of the four are known by the time the reader hits the second paragraph, so there is only one new name, that of Lady Kay.
Thank you both.
Has anyone ever seen a bay window used on the second floor of a home (a palace, in my case)? I'm trying to dress up Joseph's bedroom. I don't think I've ever seen it used on an upper floor. It also has to have sheers and (ideally) drapes for the scene to work.
Bay or bow? Bow windows certainly are used on upper floors. A bay window requires an extension of the building, at least at that floor but sometimes across multiple floors. Yes, it's done. If you can get a good view of the southern facade of NY Presbyterian Hospital (formerly NY Cornell Medical Center) you should be able to see a pair of multistory bays ending (or shrinking) somewhere around the twentieth floor. The western facade also has a multistory bay. (Hospitals often have corridors ending in bays to provide visitor seating while staff is with a patient.)
The paragraph below is from the new chapter two. I spent several paragraphs, including that one, describing Joseph's bedroom and world (through the open window). As you can see below, I then say none of that matters as I transition to the Voice. The natural question that arises is why I give all that information from Joseph's POV if he's entirely focused on the Voice. Even if there wasn't a voice, he would probably not think all of these descriptive thoughts explicitly after waking up in the middle of the night (although he might). Is this really a problem?
His planet. The one he would rule someday. A small, precious world in an otherwise perfectly ordinary star system. His star system. A member of the Realm of Stars, near the border of the scary Imperium Romanum. But none of that mattered right now as Joseph turned his full attention to the Voice!
Tada! v3 of chapter two is finally up (in the v3 book, of course). As before, it introduces the two MCs at various ages. Nevertheless, about 75% is new and, hopefully, more interesting.
I've introduced the concept of ghosts "radiating" their emotions/characteristics, which gives me tons of freedom to explore how those characters feel. Chuckling has therefore been eliminated in favor of things like: God radiated mirth. Ghosts can also radiate combinations of emotions/characteristics all in one simple sentence: she radiated mirth and tenderness, but with a touch of urgency and worry.
I added a new character to v3, which ties this chapter together with chapter one (formerly a prologue). Amy will be so proud.
Quick, go read!
I did. There are too many "radiate"s in that one chapter (try exhude or shone or squared-danced). Tie-in is good. Death to all prologues. You kids need to get off my lawn.
I reread it from your perspective. Those radiates stick out like a sore thumb. Will fix. Admiral Windsor was hoping for a real review. She's currently exuding boiling lava. :-)
Problem fixed. The three E's: emitted, exuded, emanated. Haven't used 'gave off' yet, since it's kind of dull. Still thinking about shone, since it's a visual, whereas the others are something you can feel without seeing them. I'm on the fence about dazzled.
Thank you, Kdot.
Dirk
EDIT: How about 'The admiral's presence spat venom.'? That's cool.
Upon rereading, I don't care much for the three E's. Fortunately, there are a whole bunch of ways not to say radiated: sent forth, bathed in (for the receiver), arose, brimmed, manifested, etc. And spat venom will probably be reserved for Billie.
I'll resume reading now, since I'm behind on my recips.
'The admiral's presence spat venom
That doesn't work for me, any more than "The thought of President Trump spat"
Thoughts and presences can't spit. It's an affront to spitting.
Anyway, usually pass on chapter 2's but I'll make an exception
Thanks for the review. I'll respond tomorrow.
Oh ho! Now the reviews are coming in. I glanced through them, noting the comments on the exposition. Too much info, they said. I have a very different take - too rushed.
Simply too many time-transitions crammed into a tiny space make all the background info seem to rush together. And as well it should because I sense you want to move past the opening salvo to the good stuff.
An example...
Paul Atreides starts at four and rushes through his Bene Gesserit training plus explanation of the Machine Crusade / Bulterian Jihad. Irulan. 2 years older, grooms to be Imperial consort plus explanation of the origins of the human Imperium - Paul likes to fight Harkonnens, hey Paul is sixteen and Irulan is getting married - end of chapter.
See? Too much for one chapter. It's not the info dump that would be the issue - rather there are so many major events going on that all the info has to get packed in there with it.
PS Rhiannon, if you're following, this is my comment about your chapter with the forest - hot sex - disguise - surprise - unsurprise - surprise cage - cage on a wagon - escape - I'm on a boat chapter. It's not the events - it's that they're too close together.
Some more examples...
-The Rowan in Anne McCaffrey's story takes 60 pages t go from age 2 to 16 and even that felt rushed.
-It took [J e n n a] seven chapters to explain her initial story. And that was for one character... so 14 for two. Kim needed only one paragraph, but her story is Conan-simple in comparison to yours. "Where are you going?" "That way" "Ok. I'm going with you"
all things said, I was okay with the info dumps. Yikes! Understand that to remove them will drastically repace the rest of the story.
Yeah, Seabrass killed me with his review. Amy not so much, since I addressed a lot of her concerns from the last draft.
I agree that it's dense, K, but not for the reason you mentioned. I set out to create a much richer chapter, including introductions to a lot of concepts that will subsequently be fleshed out as the story goes. I'm hoping to create much denser chapters throughout, providing for a richer read.
Obviously, I need to get them both involved with God at an early age, so that He doesn't simply appear to both of them in 4017 for the first time. That would blow away any possibility that this might be mental illness.
I could split the chapter in two, which might reduce the apparent time jumping. There are three here: Joseph at age 4, Apollo at age 7, and then 4017. If I split it, then we have Apollo and Joseph when they're young, and then both in the year 4017 in the next chapter.
I've been knocked upside the head before about info dumps. In this case, I put it all in the POV of the MCs. I don't want to stretch out the lives of the two kids when they're little with a lot of unnecessary filler content. However, if I split the chapter in two as mentioned above, I can slow it down a little.
Amy, if you're reading, the reason the epigraph tells you up front what is in the chapter is because it's difficult to navigate three time jumps for two boys of different ages. The epigraph helps the reader follow that. Those jumps are also the reason this chapter couldn't be chapter one - I felt it was too complex as an opening chapter. Also, now that Admiral Windsor comes back from the dead, I have the connection I've been trying to create between the two chapters.
I have to think some more if I want to split this in two.
Let me know if you think it will help.
Thanks
Dirk
I'm exhausted. Responding to Amy and Seabrass is Herculean work. This time around it was Seabrass who rewrote my stuff. And his is much gooder. v4, anyone?
One thought that has occurred to me is, if I split the current chapter in two, then I will have three chapters in a row with different dates (3994, 4001 & 4006, and 4017). Yuck! It still seems slightly better to split them, though.
What if I give the year 4017 a name such as the Wrath of God and make all dates relative to it? Instead of a series of absolute dates, I can use something like this: 3994 A.D. - 23 Years Before the Wrath of God. That would make it into a countdown toward 4017, rather than arbitrary-seeming absolute dates.
Thoughts?
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