njc wrote:

Y'know, the threads here are so much better than that punctuation thread in the Premium group ... .... ..

I have decided that lurking the Premium group is only a fruitful endeavor 30% of the time. This group, however... more like 99%. smile If I don't learn something, I'll at least get a chuckle out of it.

On the Canada/U.S. subject, I thought these lists were pretty interesting, highlighting a few items from each country. Some are even chuckle-worthy. smile

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/15/travel/th … es-better/
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/25/trave … es-better/

That is an adorable tiara, I must say.

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Ceridwen wrote:

Best to write drunk, rather than tired. That gives me an idea... yes, there is peach schnapps left, after all. Excellent. wink

Share? wink

Oddly enough, I do my best writing when I'm on the verge of exhaustion and pumped full of sugar and/or caffeine. Also, I must have music and it must be loud.

Rebecca Vaughn wrote:

If you get so bogged down with trying to avoid certain words, you never get your novel started!

I completely agree. I'll avoid certain words just a little bit when I'm writing, but it's when I reach the editing stage that I rummage through and hack at all those pesky 'had's and 'that's.

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njc wrote:

At the moment I'm rewriting, not writing.  However ... sometimes I have something I want to get down, even if only in sketch, so that I don't lose it.  (See my Book II).  Otherwise, I have at least a rough map of threads and either pick the one with that I'm most ready to do or the one that has the fewest open questions.

A rule of design: Solve the hardest problems first, while you have the most open choices.  You may not be able to complete that part of the design, but use as many of your unforced choices as you need for the hardest problems.  That will force and constrain other choices, but since the subsequent problems are easier, you will need fewer degrees of freedom for them.  Once in a while, you'll have to backtrack, but that's what design is about.

But maybe the question isn't what you write first, but what you place first.  I'll have to think about that.

If you have time, and if you don't mind reading a very intense real-life war story, you might profit from reading House to House.  The first-person author is SSgt David Bellavia, but he had a very solid professional writer working with him.  The structure of tension and release is almost symphonic.  I'm nowhere near achieving that, but it's something to strive for.

That really helps, njc. Thanks! I'm still working on a couple of Winston Churchill books, per your suggestion. I don't think I'll have much time for reading here soon, but I'll do my best. smile

-Elisheva

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KHippolite wrote:

Any political narrative could use a fluffy dragon for levity.

Haha, then it's official. Dea will be joining the Viyebar parade. =P

Maybe I'll write Maya's events first, then Dea's. We will see...

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KHippolite wrote:

Is there enough about Vierra to punt her into her own story?

Probably, but I don't think it would work with the way I want to write it. At some point, Vierra is going to be the political side to Noi and Maya's "adventures" (can't think of another word right now). Right now is probably the most split-up my characters are going to be. Maya and Noi come together with some other yet-to-be-introduced characters, then some time after that, Dea wiggles her way into either Maya's or Vierra's storyline (I haven't decided which direction to go just yet). So, eventually, there will only be two storylines to follow and play off of each other.

I hope I'm making at least a little bit of sense. hmm

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Vierra will be on her own for a long while, so yes, her PoV is needed. Noi and Maya's storylines will join soon and I've already written a good portion of it from Maya's PoV, so I don't think I'm changing anything there. Dea's PoV isn't necessarily needed, but if I exclude her then I miss out on the opportunity to do a non-human PoV.

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Very intriguing, njc. Thanks!

So, I have a question. How do you decide what chapter comes next? At the moment, I have three different events to write and all of them are happening roughly around the same time. These events are centered around Maya, Vierra, and Dea, respectively, but now that I've broken the back and forth between Dragons and girls, I'm not sure what comes first. hmm

I just wrote a chapter from Vierra's PoV, but I'm not sure if I should continue with her PoV or change to Maya or Dea? (Noi is out of the picture for a little bit, unfortunately)

-Elisheva

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Ceridwen wrote:

It's best to look at that list AFTER the first draft. The same thing was happening to me. So, rather than be paralyzed by fear, I wrote from the heart. It IS an excellent guideline while editing, however.

http://muddymary.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Hemingway-quote-Write-Drunk-Edit-Sober.jpg

...just sayin'

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Chapter 7 has been posted. Yay! I've gotten quite a few comments on doing more show and less tell, so please let me know if there are improvements there. smile

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I feel for your predicament and  I'm with njc on this one. When you get overly-attached to a name and have to change it, it's best to just change the spelling. I'm going to have to do that with one of my characters (not posted yet) as I completely forgot that another character's name was spelled the same way, but with one letter difference.

Good luck and don't stop writing! wink

-Elisheva

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I would imagine, living primarily in water and the sky, that Dragons have ears much like dolphins. smile I have also been thoroughly entertained by this earwax analogy. Thank you. lol

I have also been learning far too much German, apparently. I keep capitalizing my nouns.

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To be honest, I've never written a story long enough to consider a character's lifespan.  We'll see how prone I am to sudden and/or surprising deaths. wink Though I don't think I'll be killing any main characters soon. I've spent years contemplating Maya, Vierra, Noi, and Dea. Just recently decided to follow through with the writing part of it.

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amy s wrote:

I only give last names to nobility (humans). However,I may have a character who insists on being called by a full name and corrects everyone who doesn't address him correctly. (In honor of my autistic son who does exactly that to me- the person who spawned him:-)

This totally reminds me of Jack Sparr- I mean, Captain Jack Sparrow. wink

In a novel I read recently, there was a community of mages who could basically control you if they knew your name. So all non-mage denizens of the city either formulated nicknames for themselves or were called by their birth order. For instance, Eustace Jackson might be called Firstson Jackson or Mastersmith Jackson and only his closest friends would know him as Eustace.

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janet reid wrote:

I'm not saying this hoping that you accept the challenge and come up with something so (over)complicated it would force K to start a spreadsheet on your novel too and leave the rest of us alone. Especially since you've already graciously offered to be zombie lunch so that I can trip you, sorry, meant to say, so that I can get to safety where Amy is. You're already taking one for the team, it will be unfair to expect you take up more! LOL

Hahaha! I'll do my best not to force the need for a spreadsheet. wink

janet reid wrote:

I'll think about this between 2-3am tomorrow morning (the time I come up with my best ideas, it's just a shame I'm asleep at that time 99.99999% of the freaking time) and if I think of anything, I'll let you know. It might not be the solution, but it might trigger the solution in your mind.!

My ideas usually come about an hour past my bedtime, which is why I keep a notebook on my nightstand. smile

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Very good points and I love the Smurfs example. Maybe if I explain a little, that might help.

For the Elves in my story, their last name is a rite of passage. When an Elf is born, they are raised by the community. When they reach a certain age, they go out into the world to perform some good deed or bring some useful thing back to their community. This event or thing plays a large part when the Elders give this Elf his or her last name. Think of an Elf's second name as a badge of honor.

For the Fae, it's basically bloodlines, which are a huge deal in their community. It's slightly more complicated than that, but that's very far down the line as far as my story is concerned.

Dragons? To each their own. They are very independent and could care less who their mother or father was. Dragons earn titles, not names.

Humans? I have no idea. I know commoners are far less likely to carry a last name than nobles, but other than that, I'm pretty clueless. I'd like to be at least a little unique about it, but at the same time, I don't want to over-complicate things. To be honest, I am quite good at over-complicating things and do it far too often.

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So, on the subject of names, I have been wondering. Does a character's last name add to the story or just make it more difficult to keep track of? I have a whole spiel on Elvish last names and Fae last names, but I'm honestly not sure if I want to include last names for my Human characters (or even Dragon characters?).

Then, if I do include last names, what kind of structure would work best? It's not exactly a medieval setting, so last names associated with professions doesn't really fit. Most of the last names I can come up with sound far too modern.

Opinions?

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njc wrote:

Thanks.  You've hit points nobody else has.  I'll have to think about them.  A little more description wouldn't hurt, but I want to keep it light.  The previous chapters in the thread should give a lot of the picture.

One down, about 80 to go?

I was going to start from the beginning and even made it through the first 4 or 5 chapters, but you have some that aren't posted, so I decided to skip. I'll get familiar with it eventually. smile

Most of the time, when you're reading a novel, each chapter establishes the scene, even if it's the same scene as the previous chapter. In my mind, a chapter is a "stopping point". So, from a reader's perspective, could I read up to that stopping point, put the book down for a week, come back and continue right where I left off? Not so much. Of course, I'm an extremely forgetful person, but still...

The easiest way to insert some description would be to put a foundation at the beginning, where you're talking about the wolves, and elaborate on that foundation with little snippets in between the dialogue. One or two sentences won't interrupt the dialogue much at all. The best way I can describe this is by pointing you to my Colorless Dragons, chapter 6. You don't have to spend so much time on descriptions (I am a very descriptive writer. wink ), but in this instance, a decent-sized paragraph is spent in the beginning establishing where they are. Then, there are actions in between the dialogue. In this case, Merrin playing with an apple and annoying the hell out of Maya. (Hence my suggestion to pick a character's PoV, it helps give the reader an opinion or feeling to follow). In your case, it might be the fire that you've already established.

As always, IMO and YMMV. smile

-Elisheva

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I have always been fascinated by words that "evolve" through the ages and through languages. Today I came across a familiar word that had quite an intriguing alternative definition. Dictionary.com classifies the definition as "Archaic".

Punk - A prostitute or "lady of the night"

Have you found any familiar words with strange or surprising definitions? Please share. smile

-Elisheva

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Muahaha! Totally just skipped about 60 chapters and reviewed one for you, njc. I hope I was at least a fraction as helpful as you've been on my chapters. smile

-Elisheva

amy s wrote:

I stopped reading for pleasure when I got serious about writing. It seems to be one or the other for me. I went back and reread Anne McCaffery's Crystal Singer, but that is the only exception in two years. I'll revert back to reading later but I have to finish my story first and don't want the distraction.

I was reading the Gentlemen Bastards series by Scott Lynch when I started getting back into writing and didn't have any issues, but every time I start reading any novels that are at a lower reading level, my writer instincts go into overdrive. I used to enjoy a wide variety of novels, but now only my favorite high-reading-level novels will do. (all of which have sequels with pending release dates sad )

-Elisheva

amy s wrote:

(Jealous!) What I wouldn't do to have the time to sit down with a book and let the world fall away...

I have recently been unable to continue about three different book series because all I can think about while reading is how to write it better. o.0 Is this normal?

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janet reid wrote:

I also only have to run faster than Elisheva ... hehehehe

Haha! I'm glad I can help your survival in some small way. lol

-Elisheva

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amy s wrote:

For my graduation from PA school, my dad asked me what I wanted. I asked for a chainsaw. Trust me. If the zombies come, you wanna know me.

I am fairly certain that, if any sort of apocalypse comes, I will be doomed. I work on computers for a living. =P

Maybe I could garden??

-Elisheva