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Congrats guys !

I did a major flop. I picked out my top agent picks for my query and sent my first draft, which was terrrible. So, basically, I wasted my biggest hopes with my worst work lolol. Huge flop. But, my suggestion is to just go for it and not settle for anything less than fair. I am going to do one more attempt before getting a retail job and saving up to self pubilish. Good luck !

Most gene therapies are introduced via virus. If a virus carrying a gene therapy were to mutate, it could potentially result in a worldwide outbreak (even an intentional one). Just a thought.

Dude everything you say is borderline retarded. I dont direct my argument towards your points because you arent making logical arguments. If someone were to tell you that Christmas trees have feelings and then ask you to argue against it, you couldnt, because they arent presenting an argument, but an opinion based on nothing, which is the case we have here. You spout gibberish with absolutely no understanding of the concepte, principles, or psychology that we (the rest of us) are discussing.

On top of that, you have not presented me with logical argumentation against a single one of my arguments. It is the equivelency of telling me that I am wrong because potato, with a few big words that you dont understand thrown in. We are not in the midst of a real argument (hows that for realism ?), but a lopsided conveyance of concept and thought versus an inability to understand that concept and thought. It is not possible to argue away sheer ignorance.

I have read plenty of novels, and have written one myself (a novel, not a novella), and, even if I hadnt, what I am saying is still factual. Complain about how normal is boring all you want (even though the word normal hasnt been said by me a SINGLE time throughout our discussion, which shows how little your comprehension levels are (which, btw is a large part of why this discussion has proceeded thus far. You think I am arguing that normal and boring should be every character's M.O., yet I am saying nothing of the sort. I am speaking about how you connect the abnormal to the normal, and you simply have no grasp whatsoever of what I am saying. I assure you, it is literally as if I am arguing with a potato.)), and enjoy writing about a superhero meteorite in the asteroid belt, which has no feelings or thoughts or characteristics or anthropomorphization whatsoever (which is about the only thing that you could write that doesnt adhere whatsoever to the principles I am conveying. As I said, there has never been a main character without some level of anthropomorphization).

The fact of the matter is that people must identify with something on some level if they are to care about it. Arguing against this is futile, as it is a fact. Period. Period period period. Argue all you want in the most ignorant and unhelpful of fashions, but it will still remain a fact. Argue that red and green are the same color and that dirt is tasier than doughnuts. The facts will remain facts.

@ Charles
1: Your inability to understand analogies is not my issue, and it will only hold you back in life. I was presenting a concept that is not exclusive to movies, but was an EXAMPLE that is prevailent throughout all works of fiction. Your ignorance, I am afraid, will not be curable regardless of how much logic I present you with, and it will only work as a detriment to anything you write.

2. It was not gibberish. You have absolutely no understanding of what you speak of. You can identify with many things that you are not in a 3rd party fashion. You can identify with the victim and the villain even if you have been neither, because they are both rife with human feelings and the inner workings of the human mind as well as analogous situations and circumstances to which you can relate.

3. Yes, you identify with through your fears, through your empathy, sympathy, thoughts, and many other, more subtle aspects.

@ TirzahLaughs

YES YES YES. You get it. You understand. That is what it is all about, the truth, a truth, within a lie. Thank you. I appreciate your reply.

Man, youre missing it entirely. What is the difference between the new Spiderman movie "The Amazing Spiderman 2," and the first Spiderman movie with Toby Macguire ? They were both had plenty of CGI, special effects, plenty of Spiderman, Villains, and dialogue, yet one was beloved, while the other scrutinized, hated, and generally trash-talked, even to the point of Sony firing the actor. What is the difference here ? It lies only in the script and the actor. We like Toby and the writing because we BELIEVE that he cares for Aunt May, we BELIEVE that he loves Mary, we BELIEVE that what he says throughout the movie is what he would really say if in that position. We BELIEVE that he is feeling and thinking and acting.

Any trait can be identified with if done properly. Even if you dont have the trait yourself, such as a hatred for Batman (Two-face, for instance), we have met people who have hated, we have met or seen people who have killed on tv. The main reason that people watch videos of people in dire circumstances is often to connect with them or identify with them better. We want to FEEL closer to other people, even if we dont know it. We want to know what they are going through, and to understand them. So, even if we arent the villain, we can, to some extent identify with the villain, as we have all seen or known or heard about them.  The question is, how does a villain act ? What would a villain say ? How would the villain feel ?

This is what you are missing. The SITUATION may not be real, but the FEELINGS are. That is why it is important to "Get into character," to understand the character, to know the character, every character, no matter how small their part. Two Face isnt real, but we know hate, we know anger. We have all experienced it at some point in our lived to varying degrees. Therefore, the hatred, the anger, that Two face operates with in relation to Batman must be real, even if the situation and the people are not. This is the truth in the lie. It must be a truth, or it cannot hold weight. Without this identification to the very real aspects of life, we simply do not care. Have you ever found yourself routing for the Alien in the Alien or AVP movies ? Has a random Xeno ever caught your attention and had you sobbing when it was killed by fire ? No. In fact, there has never been a main character of anything without some amount of anthropomorphization. This is because we MUST identify with it on some level in order to care, and we can only identify with something that has an element of realism, AKA, the truth within a lie.

My point was in the psychology of it, not literal translations of metaphor and analogy. Superman was also Clark Kent, Spiderman was Peter Parker. It is in this, in their mannerisms, their thoughts, their feelings, their humanity, good or bad, that the connection is made, because that is what people identify with. The supernatural does not do without the element of realism. Even aliens on Star Trek have a decidedly human element. We route for Ripley on Alien because of the infinitesimally unlikely, yet significant (in our minds) possibility of ending up in her position. Even the quirky, unlikeable, or even villainous traits of a character can be identified with. It is only through this identification that the character can be hated or loved. Contest it all you want, but the fact of the matter is, THAT is the truth, it is the realistic elements that that draws us to a character, and that is why Stephen King speaks of the truth in the lie, the Peter Parker in the Spiderman.

It isnt so much truth as it is A truth. I have always thought of it this way. Your characters ARE NOT you. YOU are not your characters. BUT, you MUST UNDERSTAND your characters. You must have a deep and intimate understanding of each and every character that you write, their experiences, their frame of mind, their thoughts, their reasoning, their logic, all of the psychology that goes into who and what they are. If you dont, your character wont be convincing. This is similar to how actors "Get into character." They become the character, in a sense. Of course, they dont actually become the character, and their original self must be preserved, but they integrate enough into the perspective to be able to convey a realistic version. That IS the truth that they create. This is why it is easier to model our characters based on ourselves or people that we know, or use real life events, changed or modified to fit. It is because that is what we know. That is what we already understand. The characters that are nothing like us, those are harder, because we must come to understand a truth that we do not already know. So, basically, each character and each situation must be a truth, even though it is, technically, a lie. For no character goes loved or hated if it is not within a realm of realism.

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Hey, Max Keanu, I made you a cover. Idk if youll like it or not. I can tweak it if you want something similar but little different. Either way, its yours if you want it (would just have to figure out a way to send it to you). Heres an example, since I dono how to upload pics. http://www.thenextbigwriter.com/posting … ting-21244

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lol Tim, the movie had heart... Quirky, quirky heart. Plus the satire was exquisite. Few movies pull that off well, much less while being a decently original movie in its own right. lol.

I might be interested in this, depending on which novel you wish to be reviewed and the extent of the review. I dont really have the time or enerkachew to be in-line reviewing much, much less an entire novel, but I might be interested in just reading it and providing whatever help I can on plot, characters, etc.

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I liked Mars Attacks :-/ lolol

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Hope it doesnt happen again and that you get better soon man !

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I would contest that words ending in -ing can indeed be set off by a comma at the end. "I left the house, wondering what the sound was," or "He was in the library, reading a book." Even if it is barred by a technicality somewhere, it is so commonly accepted and expected that it wouldn't matter anyways. This is similar to how conjunctions are now commonly accepted at the beginning of sentences. "And, sometimes, it isn't so bad."

And lol yeah a few of those words are good, but they can still be overused. Everything is always glinting off of everything in my mind lol.

Thats a good one KH. You could also just use general descripts. Apollo and his men began filtering into the room. Apollo entered, followed by his enteurage. Red shirts idea is an excellent idea lolol, but the foreshadowing may be too heavy, as I would then fear for their safety.

Congrats guys ! Knew you would be in there Lesley, good job man :-)  Good luck to everyone who made it.

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I sometimes have to try hard not to overuse these, and Im sure there are a bunch of others, but these come to mind as the most irritating for me.

Shine
then
glinted
saw
wondered
thought/think
said
smiled
very
slowly
started
liked
began
dark
light
few
several
little
lot
some
there
determined

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How to live

I definitely like restrictive/non-restrictive better than essential/non-essential, which makes no sense. Also, I hate the semi-colon too. It's simply too pretentious to the point that it actually steps you out of the story entirely, wondering why they chose, of all things, a semi-colon. A semi-colonoscopy... if you will...

^^^ I actually only read the original post and very, very loosely skimmed the rest. My apologies for any confusion, and I appreciate the replies and the technical info.

Basically, he is trying to quantify it in a manner that isn't actually relative (pun *cough).

This actually has nothing to do with having more than one uncle or with being essential or nonessential. It is a breakaway, a sidestep. It needs the commas because it deviates from the original sentence. I like to put commas, at times, after a conjunction, if it isn't a continuation of the previous topic. Do you see how "At times" is separated by commas ? It's because it breaks away from the original sentence structure. It isn't essential or nonessential. I simply wanted to break away and add ADDITIONAL information, and that is the correct way to do so. The above example that you gave needs commas regardless, in m opinion, as it is a breakaway that is adding additional information about the uncle.

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Congrats Dagnee !

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Congrats dude ! Gave your entry a read. Very nice, and interesting to boot ! You had better not just leave it as a short story. Get on it man !

I think that the "Group of someones" is going the be the same people that maintain a decent stranglehold over publishing already, and, when they do "Reimagine" the system, it will be to essentially retake what little revenue they have lost to the independants. This is in a similar manner to how the music industry has essentially kicked the independent music artists off of Youtube through dirty, douchey deals with Google. Now, if someone is big enough as an independant to be noticed, the record labels can have them shut down from Google's services. Thus, the only way to make real money is to be signed with someone, in which case most of your money is taken. This will be the same dynamic that is sought by the publishing companies which already siphon the majority of the writer's money. Big money wants their cut, or they wont remain big money, and they will be looking for ways to do this through subterfuge, and will likely come under the herald of a "New and improved system." Either by having it gain press and precedence as a little guy, in which people people would be more likely to support it, or by going over their heads entirely and offering ridiculous sums of money to the independent's distributors to restore the stranglehold, as they knot that the money will be returned in the future. This is my prediction, not that I like it.