I was trying to think of a better way to handle the fact that Connor is much more powerful than his "cousins" from the breeding program, rather than just say it's due to some unknown in Campagna's DNA. If I do use the mother's DNA as the source of why Connor is much more powerful, the geneticist could be the one who verifies that her DNA augments the DNA that Satan bred into the kids he used. In other words, she could be a carrier of the genes for those abilities, though not herself able to benefit from them. But when you combine them with De Rosa's enhanced DNA (from his breeding program), you get Connor, the most powerful human of all time. But, you ask, how did she get those genes? Simple. One of her ancestors was among the few who ever escaped from the South American compound. Since her ancestor took off, she's descended from a breeding line that Satan lost access to. After many generations, she's a wild variable unintentionally injected into the breeding program by Satan himself, when he raped her. How's that for karma?

Although Connor is the most powerful human, he's not as powerful as he'll be when he eventually gets into the final battle. There are a number of ways I could handle that. For example, perhaps St. Michael brings him ancient wine derived from fruit from the Garden of Eden. I like that, but Connor may also go back to the Sea of Galilee for some skinny dipping at the urging of everyone's favorite kooks, Moses and Elijah. If you recall, an angel in book one confirmed that the waters had been blessed by Christ, perhaps when he performed his miracles there (e.g., Peter's huge catch of fish), and that the waters are supernatural. That's why modern Christians go to the area to be baptized in its waters. The waters or the wine, or both, enhance his powers to a degree he doesn't realize until he gets into battle. I'm thinking of having Michael withhold true knowledge about what the wine can do; he'll tell Connor a made-up legend of the wine's powers to improve virility, or some similar nonsense. Connor will discover his power boost when he enters battle.

When you combine Connor's DNA-driven abilities with the wine and Galilean water, he goes off the scale, power-wise. For example, he'll be able to swing his sword across the throat of a demon, decapitating him. But, there's nothing too special about that. Where the fun starts is when the heads of the next three demons near the decapitated one also go flying off, all the result of Connor's first slash. Since one sword can't reach four heads at once (unless they surround him), the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th demons are decapitated by a directed concussive force or shockwave resulting from the power of Connor's slash. It happens so fast, the force/wave behaves as if an extension of the sword itself. Physics-wise, it's total crap, but I don't care. It's a cool effect that I intend to use a number of times during the battle.

Better yet, Connor has his cousins join him for a swim in Galilee, and Michael shares some of the same wine with them. Naturally, they won't reach Connor's level of power (only he'll have the ability to mow down multiple enemies with just a slash, punch, or kick), but it would be easy for a small fighting force to hold its own against a much larger army of demons. One issue will be the stench of so many demon corpses in close proximity.

Last item, then I'm going to bed: Naming contest. I need a great name for Connor to call his genetically enhanced cousins, which includes both young men and women. He could call them simply "cousins", but I'm hoping for something more interesting, relevant to the story.

G'night.

Yeah, I'd rather not go there. Although he's 80, if he lives long enough for my books to get finished, any "son' could be seen to be a disguised version of the real one. Highly unlikely, but why go there? Also, my story has a subplot where a group of super-humans has been bred by evil. Remind you of any historical regimes? A daughter I could see using as the geneticist. I'm always looking for good roles for women in this story. smile

>I'm a little nervous about breeding in supernatural powers but will comment later.
It's no different than if the powers were the result of artificially editing the human genome. Basically, my story implies that humans can have such powers (i.e., the "potential" to have such powers exists in all humans), whether by editing the genome or breeding the necessary edits into the genome.

>The only issue is that some people will state that God limited man's age to 120 years. That is up to interpretation.
The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days. It definitely needs reinterpreting. smile

Can't use Mengele's son since he really did have a son, who is still alive. That could get me sued.

Just a quick note before I forget: Although Connor's soul was provided by God as part of the wager with Satan, Connor's predecessors originated far in the past from human parents, and all descendants through to the present day are fully human, the result of Satan's carefully controlled breeding program. Both boys and girls are part of the program, so both lineages can be controlled to produce the Antichrist more quickly since, as Christ said in the NT, no one knows when the end will come except the Father. Turns out it comes not long after prophecy about the coming of the Antichrist is fulfilled. Just in the nick of time, too. Close one!

I like not having to have a "formal" compound. If they're deep in the jungle, there's no need for walls around the compound, the conditions would be harsh since Satan wants to toughen the kids up, there's no need to provide food for them, water they can get from a nearby river and rainwater, minimal clothing from the outside world (I'm thinking loin cloths and no shoes; it's always hot and humid there anyway), and if they're stupid enough to get lost foraging for food, then Satan doesn't want them anyway. He's not looking for someone he has to rescue. It's a good thing I never ran an orphanage, huh? tongue

Satan's breeding program seems somewhat like the Bene Gesserit's attempt to create the Kwisatz Haderach, except Satan has the kids on a tight leash when it comes to who breeds with whom (yes, there are girls there too). I now have two potential roles for a geneticist: determine who reproduces with whom to bring about certain desirable characteristics in the offspring, and mess with Connor's DNA prior to insemination to make him even more powerful than the others, while simultaneously creating within him an overwhelming genetic urge to serve his father. FYI, the geneticist is a former disciple of Joseph Mengele, spirited out of Germany after WW2. One of the things the geneticist does early on is to adjust his own DNA to extend his lifespan since it's yet unknown when the end will come, and the breeding program has to continue until the Antichrist has been successfully created.

A third role for the geneticist would be to keep a handwritten journal documenting much of what he has done. That journal makes it into Romano's hands midway through book 2, who shows Connor that his overwhelming urge to serve his father, which Connor mistook for love of his father, is nothing more than genetic manipulation. And it comes with a built-in guarantee: if ever someone were to turn off the gene(s) involved, the carrier of the gene(s) will die, although it takes about two years, which gets us right to the end of trilogy, when Connor will be 18.

One big issue for me is to explain how the geneticist is able to perform/perfect all this research, which is light years ahead of modern genetics. Satan's breeding program will help. Many of the "supernatural" abilities of Connor and his predecessors were developed through the millennia-old breeding program. I'd like a better explanation, though, for why Campagna's genes turn what would be a powerful offspring into a superhuman. Even Connor doesn't know the limits of his powers. He thinks he does, but he's never faced a situation requiring him push himself so hard that his genes turn him from powerful into superhuman, similar to what happens to the Duncan Idaho ghola in one of the later Dune books. Wish me luck trying to explain, even at a rudimentary level, how that is possible. Probably no one will have an actual answer, although the characters can speculate about it.

One possibility is the way long-distance runners are eventually able to run non-stop (until they run out of readily available fuel), far beyond whatever wall previously prevented them from doing so. That happened to me many years ago, and the endorphins were firing on all cylinders, which is probably part of what kept me going.

Kdot wrote:

Neutral thoughts here. I feel it's a lot to pack into 3 books, but will have to wait to see the execution

A brief history about the compound and breeding program can be related to Connor by one of his genetic relatives, so it doesn't all have to be experienced firsthand by Connor, although I definitely think he should visit the compound. Perhaps that's where the most recent generation of kids still live, hiding away because people fear their powers. That could lead to a coordinated attack by superstitious locals while Connor is there. I think he should also be challenged by one of the kids (alpha male), who wants to see if he can best Connor and take over as leader. They fight physically and Connor seems to lose, pinned to the ground by the other kid. Just when the kid thinks he's stronger and better, Connor surprises him by throwing the kid off and overpowering him. This could be the first reveal that Connor is truly more powerful than any of the others. Another step in revealing his true power to the other characters and the reader could come while Connor is being trained by St. Michael. It might even be a surprise to Connor just how strong he really is. The final step would be during the battle, when Connor holds nothing back when fighting the demons. Heads will fly!

George FLC wrote:

People have found cities or architectural structures in South America. Maybe you could attribute them to the breeding program.

Yeah, I thought of that too. In theory, I could use one of the lost cities as the "compound" where these kids live and train. I had thought to bring supplies into the compound, which would have required a road or river, but I could just as easily require that the kids eat whatever they can find/catch, otherwise they go hungry. Naturally, they'll eat bugs and worms. And civilization is dozens of miles away through the jungle, and they have no idea where it is and how to get there. So, I don't even need to add fencing or walls around the compound. In fact, one of the tests is to be led out of the compound blindfolded for a number of miles, tied up, and left alone to find their way back.

One of the powers i might give some of them is the ability to sense life forces in the jungle and even communicate with them, be it animals, vegetation, or otherwise (Connor talks to animals in book one). The kids who can do that have the best chance of finding their way back. Occasionally, though, some of the kids say screw it and decide not to look for the way back. There could be stories over the centuries about white kids occasionally stumbling into native villages, usually by following a stream or river. Medical supplies are not needed at the compound since all of the kids have the same powerful immune system as Connor. In fact, if someone is so seriously injured that they require outside medical assistance, they're simply left to die. Basically, a nasty place.

Not all of this will make it into the books, and some of it is sure to change as I get closer to writing book three. I'd like to find a way to hint at the existence of this compound and the breeding program, if not in book one, then definitely in book two, otherwise it will seem like it came out of nowhere and was never really properly set up in the overall story.

I had a neat idea for book three. Since Connor needs a human fighting force at the beginning of the final battle, I thought that Connor, being the result of genetic manipulation based on Satan's millennia-old breeding program, would have had predecessors from the breeding program. Turns out, many of them are still alive, even though Satan had ordered them destroyed once Connor was born. The program was run from a compound in the the jungles of South America, run by a trainer who took pity on the last batch of kids created for the program, so he led them to a local priest, who assumed their care.

In book three, Connor learns of their existence, so he goes there to discover the rescued kids all look very similar to him, he being the culmination of the breeding program. All those kids (now young adults) have powers similar to Connor, just not as powerful. The reason Connor is stronger than expected is because Campagna is his mother.

Satan's zombie body is a dead version of one of the past generation of kids from the program, whose DNA Satan forced into Campagna's body for the birth of the Antichrist. Satan is unaware of how powerful Connor is as a result of being Campagna's son.

The problem with the breeding program is that it eventually runs into a dead end, when the last few batches of kids turn out to be increasingly sterile. Satan's zombie body was created long before the batch of sterile kids, so he can still reproduce using his assumed body.

Connor tells his predecessors from the breeding program the truth about what Satan had been doing with them, and asks for them to fight for him, which they agree to do. The end result is that a batch of super powered young adults become Connor's human army in the battle.

There are some issues with making this work and simplifying the details, but it could be a great way to give Connor an interesting ancestry and a cool fighting force for the final battle, all relatives of Connor through Satan's zombie DNA. And it should be a great addition to the plot. These kids all underwent rigorous training before Satan ordered them destroyed, including knife and sword fighting. Handy, huh? Connor also undergoes similar training in preparation for the battle, probably overseen by Michael the Archangel, an ancient friend of Adam's. Connor is a natural at this, in part because of his enhanced intelligence, strength, and speed and in part because all his ancestors were bred to be good fighters.

I'll have to come up with a reason why Campagna's DNA makes Connor so powerful. Perhaps it's just random luck involving the DNA, although I'd prefer a better explanation. TBD.

The breeding program might completely eliminate the need to have a geneticist in the story. Not sure yet.

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It depends on what's causing it, doesn't it? I included more detail in my previous post.

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A little more detail:

If I click on the link inside the TNBW email I receive following another member's newest posted chapter, I get this from Bitdefender on Windows 11:

Suspicious page blocked for your protection
https://email2.booksie.com/ls/click?upn … 3QUqZY4...
Your connection to this web page is not safe due to an unmatching security certificate.
This means that the certificate was issued for a different web address than the one it is being used for, and you run the risk of exposing your data by accessing this page.

Then Google Chrome intercepts it as well, yielding:

Your connection is not private
Attackers might be trying to steal your information from email2.booksie.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards)
NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

This server could not prove that it is email2.booksie.com; its security certificate is from *.sendgrid.net. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection.

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Dirk B. wrote:

Sol, when I get emails sent to me by TNBW, and I click on the link within (e.g., to go to a new message from another member), my security software (Bitdefender) intercepts my attempt to do so, and kicks up an error message like the following (edited for brevity):

https://email2.booksie.com/ls/click?upn=u6w90slL...etc.
Your connection to this web page is not safe due to an unmatching security certificate.
This means that the certificate was issued for a different web address than the one it is being used for, and you run the risk of exposing your data by accessing this page.

I can force my way past it, although I never do so at any other site. I'd prefer not to have to do it here either since there's always a chance the site's been hacked.

Thanks
Dirk

Sol, I'm still getting error messages from Bitdefender and Chrome that the urls in the emails the site generates are unsafe. This evening, I received an email notification from TNBW that another member had posted a new chapter. When I clicked on it, first Google intercepted it, then Bitdefender, and then Google again. They must really not like your emails. LoL.

Will a fix for these email links be forthcoming? Again, this comes down to trying to give new members the confidence to remain on the site. See next post for more details.

Also, please see the discussion on forum timeouts earlier on this page. (Separate problem.)

Thanks
Dirk

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Good one, but it's for the other story. I went with Julius Caesar. The WW2 quote is too far off topic.
The other one is a variant of the elite quote: as easily as spotting the Imperial elite in Rome, fat capital of the Imperium. Of course, that one's a little rude and long. Caesar will probably win by default.

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It only happens when I'm using the forums. It also happened to a trial user recently.

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Of course it's insulting. The book makes all kinds of insane commentary about modern society.
I was born in Quebec. Surely they wouldn't get upset at one of their native sons? smile

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njc wrote:

...Shooting tiramasu at a Roman feast?  Plinking wine goblets at a Roman feast?

I'm not sure if I should use Roman feasts at that point since I haven't given enough background that this is a resurrected Roman society. However, it does give me the idea to perhaps use something from history, preferably before our time.

As easily as shooting leaves off a tree
As easily as finding needles on a pine tree
As easily as stabbing Julius Caesar in the back - not too bad
As easily as finding Italians at a pizza convention smile
As easily as bunnies mate
As easily as conquering France in WW2 - This is probably the one!
As easily as conquering Denmark in WW2 - 2 hours! It's funny, you don't hear about this much, but France! LoL
As easily as finding porn on Galaxinet

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George FLC wrote:

Shooting stuffed elites stuffing stuffed pizza down their stuffed throats. (Hmm. Too much?)

Just a wee bit.

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Yup, Chrome. Is there a way for me to change that setting?

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I typically get kicked out after about 15-20 minutes.

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I need an alternate (future) expression in lieu of "like shooting fish in a barrel." I'm also trying for something funnier. My best one so far is:

Soon, the Classiarii forced their way through other hatches and targeted the Marines from three sides, picking them off as easily as shooting the pizza-stuffing elite of Rome, fat capital of the Imperium.

That one's not bad since it sounds contemptuous of Rome and its ruling elite, which isn't a bad way for St. James (POV character) to think of them at this moment. But it is rather long.

Thanks
Dirk

Walyullaw wrote:

Regarding social media though, wouldn't I need to only post stuff that won't be in my book? You were saying presses don't publish content that's already freely available.

That's what I've always read. It makes sense really since they can't make money if the same material can be had for free. I doubt that prevents you from posting a small number of the poems on social media platforms as a teaser to build a following. One of our other members, who writes sci-fi and fantasy books, started building his social media presence in the last year or so. He has his own website, where he announces new releases of material, offers free companion stories to his novels in return for signing up to his email distribution list, and posts monthly newsletters about the writing process and his opinions of writing tools he uses. So, you could post poems that won't be available in book form. That's a win/win for you and potential publishers.

With regard to keeping your poems available for free at present, keep in mind that the internet has a long memory. smile  I posted a short story (fan fiction) set in the Dune universe, which I obviously can't publish for profit since I don't have any rights to do so, and discovered later that it had been nicely repackaged with a e-book cover on another site and made freely available. Cool, but thankfully, it was meant to be distributed for free (all my short stories from this site are posted here with the widest possible visibility, including the internet). I'll probably leave instructions for my executor to make my books available for free after my death as well, assuming I ever finish one. smile

If you ever need a good laugh, check out my (very) short story called Ms. Bunny Divine, which is itself just a teaser of one of my novels-in-progress. Currently it's only meant to attract site members to read/review the novel, but I could easily post it on the internet for free as a teaser for potential book buyers later.

Regards,
Dirk

Happy to help.

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SolN, I'm still running into many cases where I'm writing a forum post and the site logs me out, sometimes resulting in an entire long post being lost. One of our newest members and I both just got bitten by these timeouts. I know you and Kdot discussed this last year, which I believe was a cookie timeout issue (please contact Kdot for the details of what he found).

Can this be fixed? While it can be frustrating for long-term members (I sometimes inevitably forget to copy my pending post to the clipboard in case the Submit fails), it no doubt makes a poor first impression for new members who are trying to evaluate the site's stability and suitability for their needs.

Thanks
Dirk

We have a new member (Walyullah) currently evaluating our site, looking for guidance re publishing poems they've written, not to mention feedback about those poems. Can anyone provide assistance with that, especially publishing guidance? Feel free to reply here or to the appropriate Premium forum post created by the author over the last few days.

Walyullah, two major sources of info are google, where there are articles for everything, and how-to books sold at online booksellers about finding agents, publishers, and going the self-publishing route. Although the technical details on how to self-publish aren't too onerous, going that route requires you to take on (or pay for) all of the tasks yourself (editing, cover art, and especially marketing, which some authors hate). However, marketing a book requires the author to be involved even when getting professional assistance with that, such as doing interviews and book tours, some of which are done virtually these days. You'll almost certainly need a social media presence, which you often need to create before the pros will become interested. Email lists of potentially interested buyers/fans are important too.

Can anyone on the site provide Walyullah with assistance/guidance on any of this?

Thanks
Dirk

Let me see if I can scare up a few people to answer you. The number of views can be misleading since search engines regularly index the forum content. The best way to network here is to see who has posted poems in the past six months or so (since the early October server/backup crash) and then begin reviewing their work and/or send them connection requests and ask if they'd like to trade reviews. I don't believe anyone lost their work except one or two who were using this site as the only repository of their recently written work, who shouldn't have. I personally lost recent forum posts, but I keep my manuscript(s) offline in Word. Our site admin gave everyone enough points to re-post their work if that's what they wanted.

One solution re the low site payments is to see if you can combine some of them in some logical grouping to make bigger chapters. If not, stick with posting them as individual poems, though consider prepending a number to the title of each poem and/or pick memorable poem titles (e.g., 001 - Ode to the End of the World!). Any poem titles you've already used/posted can be renamed easily enough using the site's edit functionality in case you want to prepend a number to each title.

Another option if you don't get enough feedback here is to check our sister site, Booksie.com. It's newer, with new functionality, and I'm virtually certain it supports poems there as well. Not sure how much their forums get used, though. They do not use a points system at present, so the idea is to build a network of fellow authors who give the kind of detailed feedback you're looking for, and trade ongoing reviews with them without worrying about collecting points for posting. The effort is generally the same: you post poems (for free) and develop a network of people who consistently trade reviews with you.

One way to toot your own horn is to review others and ask them in the closing comments to review your poems and that you're looking to network with authors with whom you want to trade ongoing reviews. We'll call that the hit-them-over-the-head approach, which I sometimes use too. smile

If other sites to which you've posted have a paywall, then it should be fine to leave them up, at least for now, although check the site's policies regarding copyrights of posted work. If necessary, add a copyright notice to each poem. TNBW does that automatically, although that doesn't stop bad actors from re-posting your work elsewhere if they gain access to it. That can happen to anyone, including famous authors, whose books are in great demand. There's no foolproof way to do it though, except stick with well-established pay sites and add copyright notices. You always have the option to self-publish, of course. Consider looking up desirable publishers and agents and ask them about their policies. It's a given these days that most authors use a pay site to help them workshop their stories before submitting them to agents or publishers.