Not everyone posts to Premium, Janet. I currently review the work of an author who posts in a private group.
3,802 2015-07-10 20:30:42
Re: Bonus Points (23 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Adrian Lankford wrote:The Endurance Points thread got me thinking.
Would anyone support author give Bonus Points... Thoughts?
I just posted this on the Endurance Points thread. Since it's relevant to your suggestion, I'm adding it here, as well.
"...Let's say I have 1000+ points in my account. I can afford to pay reviewers. But, poor John Doe, who just joined the site, doesn't have two points to rub together. He couldn't pay for reviewers, so he's screwed out of those reviewers who won't get extra bonus points for reviewing his stuff. They will come to me, instead..."
So, that would be the inherent problem with author given Bonus Points.
When I came onboard, I got a few courtesy reviews from people that I quickly realized could really help me improve my writing. I knew they were "in demand" so I applied myself, learned how to do good reviews, and read more of their work than they did mine, out of fairness. The problem with that was I finish their book long before they finish mine and, if I'm not interested in their next book, I either have to force myself to keep reading them, or risk losing them altogether, which is a virtual certainty if you don't recip. In that event, I'd rather read stuff I'm interested in and use the "money" to reward a great reviewer for continuing to read my stuff. If a new person doesn't have two points to rub together, then they need to read more so they can eventually afford the best reviewers. In real life, if I can't afford a great editor, I can either use one that is run-of-the-mill, or I can work more to earn money to get the very best.
3,803 2015-07-10 20:15:22
Re: Endurance Points (32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Sending an occasional gift of points to someone isn't likely to run out of control, since it takes a lot of time to build them up. But I recently received two extraordinarily detailed reviews where the reviewers put in hours of effort. I would gladly read extra works to build up enough points to reward them from time to time, just as I read to get enough points to publish. If I know someone is new and trying their best to give a good review or trying to stay with me, I'd probably give them an occasional gift as well.
There are people who read more than they write (me included), so we've built up quite a horde. Once those are spent, however, the system equalizes for everyone and you have to read even more to get the points to give away. If someone is a prolific writer and puts up stories at five times my pace, and they're getting lousy reviews or people don't stick with them, then they need to slow down and read more.
There are other reviewers who give barely any feedback and they're getting the same points as someone who goes out of their way to give better reviews. The current system doesn't reward the quality of reviews. It's a communist economy, where everyone gets an equal share no matter how much or little effort they make. Let the cream rise to the top.
As for giving incremental credit for later chapters, the points can come from the system, just as the system currently gives extra points for reviewing new members.
3,804 2015-07-10 16:33:41
Re: Bonus Points (23 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
That's mentioned as a poosible addition/alternative in the endurance points thread. I think it's great idea. I think it would have to come out of your own points, though, otherwise it becomes like a ratings system, which didn't work on the old site. Everyone got top ratings so the author wouldn't offend anyone. If the points don't come from you, then authors will be inclined to give them to everyone. I would gladly pay my own points for excellent reviews.
3,805 2015-07-10 02:08:08
Re: Endurance Points (32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I've learned to stick to books I want to read, or where I want to keep the reviewer. Usually both. As a result, I'm down to about half a dozen readers. That also makes it easier to keep up with reciprocating while also writing.
I do think, though, that being able to give reviewers an occasional boost of points in return for great reviews would be terrific, as well as incremental points provided by the system for later reviews.
3,806 2015-07-09 23:29:57
Re: Endurance Points (32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
The way I deal with great reviewers currently is to try to read more of their work than they read mine. The only downside to that is I usually finish their book before they do mine, so I may lose them later in my story, unless they've got another book online that I also want to read.
3,807 2015-07-09 22:45:24
Re: Things that's great about the new TNBW (32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
If I don't want to deal with someone in real life, I avoid them. Same principle when it comes to blocking. If someone offends me and I want to block them, that should be my decision. I'm paying to be here after all. Why put up with trolls?
3,808 2015-07-09 22:41:21
Re: Endurance Points (32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I don't even have a book to post and I love this idea.
LOL.
I really like the idea of increasing points as the number of chapters reviewed grows higher. At least that gives us some way to reward long-term reviewers.
I'm not sure about rating reviews. That used to be the case on the old site and most people are too polite to give any less than five stars to avoid insulting/losing reviewers.
3,809 2015-07-09 20:19:28
Re: Endurance Points (32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
What I would love is the ability to give some of my points to reviewers that I most want to hang on to. I don't mind if some of my readers drop off. Usually the ones that drop off have become disinterested in my story and aren't really providing great reviews anymore. I have, however, received tremendous feedback from a couple of my regular reviewers, but can't reciprocate equally because their writing is so much better than mine.
3,810 2015-07-09 02:19:43
Re: Things that's great about the new TNBW (32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Charles,
If I write a poem on growing old, I don't see how a reviewer's opinion of growing old would improve my writing. As for Hitler, that example further proves my theory if you have a good plot writing style does not matter.
Perhaps they might say something about growing old that makes you rethink how to write your poem. Or perhaps you build a relationship that leads to better and ongoing feedback. ... Now you're going to block me, aren't you? ![]()
As for Mein Kampf, it's heartening to know even psychopaths can write bestsellers. There's hope for me yet!
3,811 2015-07-08 20:14:46
Re: Calling all TNBW Artists (6 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I'm not an artist, but my favorite image that comes to mind is someone sitting hunched in front a computer, with a clock that says 2 AM, eyes bugging out of the face, and with frazzeled hair. Perhaps a pencil/pen behind the ear. Papers and books lying/stacked everywhere. One book could say dictionary, another thesaurus, and another grammar on the spines.
3,812 2015-07-08 05:54:52
Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread (1,905 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Oh, you drunk is the perfect time to read Queen Amy. She's DOA, but I left her up to shame you for helping me create her.
3,813 2015-07-08 03:50:19
Re: Site Bugs 2 (342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Norm d'Plume wrote:In doing inline reviews, I often leave two or more comments for the same selected word or sentence (for separate feedback about the same item). I then write my closing comments, which can be long. Today, I wanted to read those secondary and tertiary comments, so I clicked on x-line to see all of them. My very long closing comments were wiped out. Fortunately, I suspected that might happen, so I copied the closing comments to the clipboard. I was then able to paste them back in. Since x-lines are available when leaving reviews, this could easily burn someone. Not sure if there is an easy fix.
Actually, there is an easy fix. Just go ahead and close your review before checking the x-line. Then your closing comment will be saved. You can always go back and add to your comments even after closing. Take care. Vern
That lends itself to an easy programming fix. The system should auto-save the review before switching over. That way you don't leave it for someone else to trip over.
3,814 2015-07-08 00:20:54
Re: Site Bugs 2 (342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I use MS Word 2007 with Times New Roman. What WP do you use, K?
EDIT: I just tried four characters (cut directly from MS Word and pasted into the WP here on the site): e with two dots, e with a bar (again), e with a bowl over it (same as your s), and a French e with an accent. e with two dots worked. French e worked. Interestingly, the e with the bowl didn't work, nor did the e with bar.
EDIT: I just tried K's s with a bowl. It works, even though e with a bowl doesn't.
3,815 2015-07-07 23:27:37
Re: Site Bugs 2 (342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Thank you, both.
3,816 2015-07-07 20:52:55
Re: Site Bugs 2 (342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
njc, does that mean the different languages map different characters to the same (shared) byte(s), or does each language get its own subset of the total byte pool?
Thanks.
Dirk
3,817 2015-07-07 19:20:27
Re: Site Bugs 2 (342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Another issue that may not be easily solvable is foreign fonts. In particular, I'm using some Latin my book, which includes uncommon accents like an e with a horizontal bar over it. It posts as ? on the site when taken from MS Word using Times New Roman. I'll have other Latin words with other uncommon characters, so this will be a pain to deal with. To be honest, I'm not sure CreateSpace or Kindle support them either, so I may have to convert it to something "similiar" using other letters, assuming that's possible (e.g., maybe ae for e+bar).
Please let me know if there is a better solution.
Thanks.
Dirk
3,818 2015-07-07 18:42:27
Re: Site Bugs 2 (342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
In doing inline reviews, I often leave two or more comments for the same selected word or sentence (for separate feedback about the same item). I then write my closing comments, which can be long. Today, I wanted to read those secondary and tertiary comments, so I clicked on x-line to see all of them. My very long closing comments were wiped out. Fortunately, I suspected that might happen, so I copied the closing comments to the clipboard. I was then able to paste them back in. Since x-lines are available when leaving reviews, this could easily burn someone. Not sure if there is an easy fix.
3,819 2015-07-07 02:23:15
Re: What features do new members get and for how long? (6 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Thank you, sir!
3,820 2015-07-06 23:48:51
Re: What features do new members get and for how long? (6 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I figured someone else might know and, if not, someone else might like to know. Didn't want to bother the poor man with yet another message.
3,821 2015-07-06 23:05:45
Topic: What features do new members get and for how long? (6 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I can't remember how the site works for new members. Do they get access to inline reviews for any length of time? I have two new writers I want to review and want to do line-level reviews without resorting to a regular review if I can help it.
Thanks.
Dirk
3,822 2015-07-06 17:18:07
Re: Do I Need Chapter Titles in My Book? (5 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)
Welcome, Randall, and thanks again for the review. I'll recip shortly.
I use chapter titles to tease the reader, either with a few word summary of a key event in the chapter, or with a little misdirection.
For example, my story builds up over many chapters that one of my MCs, Apollo, is heir to the Imperial throne and is expected to become emperor and lead a holy war. It's pretty much a given that that event will occur, so I give the reader something to look forward to when they check out the table of contents. Through chapter titles, they see his rise and fall, followed by a climax where everything will be decided. As you read it, you know he will fall, but he doesn't. As a result, I have a chapter called Emperor Apollo that includes his coronation, which is the peak of his success before the fall.
It's kind of like when you saw the second death star in Return of the Jedi. You know a big battle will occur, but not the how, including the fact that Emperor Plapatine has planned the whole thing. So, there were still a lot of surprises left to be had in ROTJ. Dune did something similar. It used epigraphs at the top of each chapter (I use them too) to give historical information about Maud'dib, the protagonist. You know from early on that Paul Atreides will become Maud'dib, but you have to tear through the book to get there and see how it happens.
The other example, misdirection, I do for fun (my story tries for a fair bit of humor). I have a title called Joseph Enters Heaven. He's a religious character, so it could be interpreted as him going to Heaven (in some form). In reality Heaven is the name of a prison.
By using both types of chapter titles, I also keep the reader guessing.
If you want the whole story to be a closely held secret and only unfold through the content of the chapters, then leave them out. If you prefer to tease them with some information, then use chapter titles. The latter also gives potential readers a little more information about the book when they're deciding whether or not to buy it. You have the book title and the book summary to sell your novel, but a few interesting chapter titles in a TOC might help seal the deal. In my book, a chapter titled "Worlds Collide" let's the reader know that, as suggested in the book summary, the quests of the two MCs will indeed collide.
Hope that helps.
Dirk
3,823 2015-07-06 03:20:50
Re: Amazon set to pay self-published authors as little as $0.006 per page (5 replies, posted in Marketing Your Writing)
It would have saved me quite a few bucks on Star Wars: Darth Plagueis. Great bedtime reading for those with insomnia. It does pick up after many painful chapters. I only stuck with it because of some interesting writing techniques.
Personally, I have no problem getting paid by the page. The onus is on me to write a story people want to finish. And if they don't like it, perhaps they won't leave a nasty review about having wasted $10 on a doorstop.
3,824 2015-07-04 07:02:13
Re: Using Third Person Omniscient POV (26 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Dune uses omniscient POV and is the best-selling sci-fi novel of all time. Today, publishers are so focused on a POV style that masterpieces of the past would never even get published.
I started with omniscient because I didn't know any better and was strongly encouraged to drink the cool-aid and switch to 3rd person limited. I'm glad I did because there are several key chapters that wouldn't have worked if I had been inside both MCs heads at the same time.
That aside, I plan to self-publish, so I have no problem breaking a few rules to tell the story the way I would like to read it.
3,825 2015-07-04 06:43:19
Re: Prologue's (37 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
j p lundstrom wrote:Mike Roberson wrote:Checking out the dif in foreword, prologue's and such. Found this interesting.
http://theeditorsblog.net/2011/07/06/pr … -prologue/Mike--I just read the article, and I have to say I'm in the group of readers against prologues. My main complaint? I want to read the story, not the background junk. JP
Don't worry! Everything alleged in that blog post is wrong. A writer's prologue is like operatic or broadway musical composer's overture. The concept started in Greek drama to be like a movie trailer, and if the listener/reader is turned off by a overture/prologue, then is it a fact that he had better spend his money elsewhere. Readers should thank an author for a prologue.
I agree with Charles on this. My prologue isn't something you're meant to slog through to get to the story. It's part of the story. I use it to set the stage for everything that follows, except for the main characters, who aren't born yet. It's set in the era of my MCs' parents and grandparents. It creates history for the MCs.