Completed reviews of Alkemi's Souring Seas - chapters 18 - 23.

Yes, there's only 2 that are written about in the prison and some have read far enough to have seen Paldara does enter the story.

I was thinking it's about time I tried my hand at what many argue is the most difficult of all types of short stories--the comedy one. So, by writing this out I wanted to see if I can be funny. Sadly, it looks like the funny gene passed me by. I'll still take a run at it though, and my next short story will be a comedy attempt. Uh, any recommendations on if it's more advantageous to write a comedy SS in 1st person or 3rd person? Consider the writer (me) has no gift for gab, so which one do you think I can best squeak by on?

Where should I hide?

Marilyn Johnson just posted a write up on not getting any replies to reviews she's offered on this site. I just noticed she reviewed my latest short story, and now my fingers are trembling in fear on my keyboard!

If I don't reply in time to her, will she spotlight me on the general forums as one more callous abuser of her goodwill and generosity?

Damn! My computer desk is too small to hide under! HELP!!!

I tried to envision walking through a prison with a camera on the way to see a particular prisoner. Does the camera pick up some of the other inmates on the way? Now Maribel is not just brash but she's somewhat nosy/curious as to why she keeps questioning what she sees.

The boorkin will definitely be used in a later setting. I don't want to give away too much, but I've established the boorkin are loyal to the Foresters and later it is revealed that Talmas has the Forester blood line. So you can see how these can be connected later, I think. The other prisoner, Paldara, joins the story at a later point.

I have several things in the story that seem at first pointless, but do come into play later on.

In the following paragraph, which I believe has 65 words to it, where would you place the commas?

There came a most sizeable and large snowflake riding the wind wherever the fates decided to guide it in the hope that someday a paramount man of virtuous intent could benefit from its cool touch upon the cheek or forehead or neck and give comfort where needed though not asked for by any who would be relieved and overjoyed by this small grace fallen from the heavens themselves.

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Agree - 3.

Completed reviews of CJ's Raven's Curse - chapters 15,16,17,18,19, & 20.

I think the majority were newer members, although I feel it's mostly about one's background if anything can be used to point to reviewing and writing skills. But that's correct, it doesn't matter if someone with years of editing experience wants to join, we are at the limit of what most of our members can juggle for reviewing, writing, and the other necessities of daily living.

I turned down another request to join our review group today. I think that's around 6-7 in the last several months, which sort of befuddles me as to how people find this group since I intentionally left it off the site's group listing. I would imagine that number would be many times greater if I had our group listed publicly.

I only mention this for 3 reasons: 1. I wanted to assure everyone I am being mindful of our agreed upon limit of 9 members, so you don't need to worry about me becoming overzealous and adding a bunch of writers. 2. I don't want to unknowingly reject a friend or acquaintance of a group member that was recommended. Just as a reminder any friends or acquaintances you'd like to have join our group would need to have your request posted in advance. Yes, it's likely pointless at this time since it's almost certain we will turn down anyone with our current capacity. 3. I wanted to see if I could explain this in less than a thousand words smile

Completed reviews of Randy's Dangerous Alliance, chapters 2,3,4,5, & 6.

When I broke down my tediously long chapter originally titled The Fall of Silverbranch into several chapters comprising a mini-arc, I forgot to include a conclusion chapter! If you get to it for a review let me know if there's anything in it that seems to stray off topic and is a candidate to be cut or replaced. "I think" as it stands all of the events and such are flowing from beginning to end correctly, but my eyes do like to lie to me.

That's now posted as chapter 16, but I really wanted to comment I think this is the first time I've managed to pare down a chapter by that much. Its now at 7509 words and I managed to cut 2k of it out. It felt like the days as an adolescent having to work on my relatives friend's Garden of Eden backyard. Ah, loaning out your children for hard labor against their wishes - who says the modern era of indentured servitude is dead?

Well deserved recognition of your hard work and knowledge of the subject material. I'm certain more five star reviews will come your way smile

I'm not trying to speak for NJC on his own section here, but I'll offer up my 2 cents because I know what you're getting at, Randy.

Yes, your reviews will benefit NJC, and no you are not wasting your time or his.

Brandon Sanderson is TOR's top ace author with over 17 bestsellers last I heard. He says in his yearly class on creative writing, which he teaches at BYU, to never argue with your reviewer. You don't have to agree, but arguing isn't productive in his opinion. I don't agree with him on that because regardless if you feel the writer is right or wrong, you are able to get a sense of the writer's styles and beliefs and uncertainties from the responses. If I got back two dozen "Thank you for the edit" and nothing else, I wouldn't know where to direct my energy on the review as effectively. The reasons provided in response by the writer will in turn will help you to help the writer by knowing where they are not going to budge and why, or if they are considering changing a line or idea due to your input and why.

Some of you have been in reciprocal reviews with NJC longer than me, but this is what I've learned. Yes, NJC does push back more than the average writer on this site. He has to see your conviction and reasons before he budges or doesn't - after all, we must never forget that as the writer, we are the final judge because we also take on all the risk for failure. Some of you should take a look at my reviews on NJC where sometimes we go back and forth 5 or 6 times on a single point (that's my choice and I don't recommend the rest of you do this as a norm unless you choose to). Am I arguing because I want to win the argument? No, I just want to give my best because I will expect his best when it comes time to reciprocate. And I try to do the same for the rest of our group because I expect their best in return as well.

NJC is a very smart person and so is everyone in this group. I've already noticed he pays very close attention when he realizes different reviewers are intersecting on the same point, even if it's one that he was going to keep as is. How do I know this? He tells me so in his comments.

The rest of us do the same thing. There have been instances where I've politely responded I wouldn't change a line or words only to change it after all after seeing several reviewers intersect independently on the same issue. So if several reviewers are pointing at the same thing, it's time to take a much closer look at it and that's what he does. This is why you aren't wasting time, Randy.

We should all remember that wearing our reviewer hat is actually heavier than wearing our writer hat. You all know how it goes in the real world, right? One morning John Doe walks in and he's wearing what he thinks is a snazzy, new cap and has a new cologne on that he believes makes him the second coming of Adonis. Now, a dozen associates see John and toss out the usual complimentary statements by rote: "John, that's a good looking cap you have there" "Wow, John, is that a new cologne? It smells like you bought it at heaven's first gate. Where can I get some?" BUT NOT YOU. You, as the reviewer, have the unenviable task of providing the truth and being direct and honest. Because if you don't - John Doe loses an opportunity for self improvement and thinks everything is just fine and dandy when maybe it's not. You have to be the one to say, "John, the cap makes you look like a freshly plucked mushroom and the new cologne you're wearing smells like the bed of manure you were harvested from. That's my honest opinion and I don't think the others were giving you theirs."

Now, of course, we don't word it harshly like my example, but giving your honest opinion while softening the critique as best you can and still retain the substance of your edit is very challenging. And then you have to be prepared to have your advice rejected by the writer. So what? Your best effort given is all that matters not how many times or not the writer agreed or not at all.

For what its worth - no one is in this group that isn't capable of the duality of being a good writer and a good reviewer at the same time. Many on this site are one or the other, but not both. I know, because if you recall I screened everyone's writing and reviewing before issuing an invitation. Call me an elitist snob, but I wanted a group of very capable members and that's what we have.

You're doing good work on behalf of all our members, Randy, and we in turn will pay you back on that investment through our reviews.

Somewhere Suin is reading this and wondering if I can shorten a posting to less than a chapter smile

HERE COME THE ORCS!

One of the cornerstones of the fantasy genre, the vilified Orc was a creature used when the author needed a fantasy version of a gang member from the mean streets of Sin City.

And now the Orc is soon to step from the pages of fantasy to reality if mankind follows its usual path of mishandling new breakthroughs:

"Researchers have created a viable hybrid part-human, part-pig embryo for the first time in history. According to a study published in the journal Cell Thursday, researchers were able to successfully inject human stem cells into a pig embryo and grow tissue that would form the early stages of human organs like the heart, liver and neurons."

We only need a handful of crazed scientists to build a real life Orc army and then J.R.R. Tolkien will join the likes of Jules Verne's submarine where fantasy becomes reality.

Tolkien is a really good writer. I've looked at his writing many times, but it's beyond my skill level to emulate. Nevertheless, regardless if you like the fantasy genre or not, his writing is one you should look over even if it's just to see how he puts together his sequencing of narrative to dialogue.

I think from the few times I've looked at her writing, R.K. Rawlings in her Harry Potter series has a similar style where you have descriptions handed to you without realizing it since the style is so immersive when you are reading it.

To me, it's more interesting for the current trajectory than having the parents operating as a pair. It was necessary to first show them together in the family life setting, but I like seeing how Mellaen works to find and follow Shogrun's trail. Because Caneth's capture was the key that draws the MC down the story's plot, it was evident to me and I'm sure all other readers that Caneth is "out of the picture" until the time to confront Shogrun and what follows occurs.

I feel the time has been spent wisely where the MC - Merran has gotten the most screen time and her mother is also featured with less but adequate frequency. I'm not shy about telling you otherwise if I think so either.

Jeran as I mentioned remains my concern as far as the characters go up to where I'm at in chapter 22. I think you have to find a way to turn the dial up on him and find some places to stress him, drop a dilemma on him, put him at odds with one or more of the others, etc. This won't be easy if made contrary for a time to Merran because he is beholden to her and would understandably feel gratitude. Whatever your reasons to the contrary may be, at this point his presence isn't being felt enough through the adventure. This is completely repairable IMO but you would benefit from drawing up both situations and developments that could address this you are comfortable with and a list of those that make you uncomfortable but may spark inspiration nevertheless. I guess I'll end my sermon here and leave the pulpit.

The review members collectively wave to Jube. "C'mon back and pontificate to us some more *after* you've managed to finish your novel, okay?"

"Look, you can get a decent cover artwork for $40, and top masterpiece for $200."

She must mean in another country where $40 goes much further than here in the U.S. or Canada, right?

Nicolas Andrews once recommended the book cover guy he uses, Keith Draws, and that guy is considered a very good designer but doesn't do a custom ebook cover for less than $500 unless you catch one of his holiday specials where he cuts the price down.

A top masterpiece I've always understood is when the designer is hired to do the cover the hard way. They aren't going to use photoshop or other stock image manipulation program. Instead, they draw, paint, and digital image all from scratch. That's thousands of dollars in cost as I understand it. And there is a small group of elite designers that do this where you can't even hire them - they hire out only to publishers directly.

Like this guy who is rated #1 - http://www.michaelwhelan.com. When you look at his covers, you can see it's all done from scratch after he gets the writer's information and input on the scene to use. You wouldn't even get a sketch from this guy for $200.

I mentioned at the end of my last review, I'd post some of my impressions here so far for your consideration -

Story opening: Home run. Why? The story's trigger and key that draws the characters into the plot are all hitting right away and sneaks up on the reader. The way Shogrun goes from 0 - 60 sneaks up on you. He starts out with the impression he's just ticked off about the abuse of his pets, but escalates from there on showing it wasn't really premeditated - we call this realistic. The stakes are thrown at the reader right away and are as obvious as a truck coming at you: 1. My father was kidnapped! 2. That evil slime even took the baby! 3. I need to get them back! 4. Who the hell are you soldier boy? Wait, you're that guy who started this mess in my house! And one of the best points is the big hint from seeing how Shogrun seems to be rather well off that there is a power behind him to contend with later.

Magic system: Okay with room for improvement. Why? No apparent cost is one problem for me. I didn't forget the comments right above this one from before, but I'm on chapter 22 and have seen no costs to using magic more freely than a potato peeler in an Idaho field of Russet potatoes.
I get the strong impression from watching the abundant usage of magic that these sorcerers can go on forever using it to: cook, clean, heal, harm, hunt and kill, and everything in between with no cost to themselves. They don't get exhausted, they don't suffer ill effects if they exceed their limits - do they have limits? They certainly have distinctions of abilities among themselves. Masters are at the Academy and there are some references of sorcerers knowing who is stronger than who. And yet there were some examples of drawing on external power sources (magical stones) for accomplishing tasks at hand alluding to limits.

Limits and such may be in later chapters, but it would be very beneficial to put an example or two in prior to chapter 20. The Elemental Fire - I think I mentioned before that traditionally, fantasy authors from novices to the big fish use Water as the element for healing since it has some realism to it. Blood is mostly water and the body has a lot of it so it makes sense in that respect. Using Fire is interesting to me in the way it breaks away from the norm so the element used is not an issue for me, but I think a distinctiveness should be introduced. For example - Today I used Fire to heal and then I used Fire to turn the enemy to ashes. But what if you described the flame appears green or blue or white when healing and red when destroying? That's what I was getting at. In regards to this, I think I mentioned in the review how Harsan uses Fire to heal one leg then Air to heal the other annoyed me to no end. It gave me the very strong impression he could do the healing with any element he chose based on a whim. If you've read the Dresden Files by Jim Butcher (quite the arrogant ass IMO if you've seen his comments before including his letter to Nanowrimo which did anything but encourage hopeful authors) his MC Harry Dresden, wizard for hire, has something similar to your world build Sorsight. But JB incorporates a *cost* for wizards to use their wizard eye (I forget what he called it). When looking upon something purely evil or deeply scarred psychology, the wizard can go mad or become violently ill for days.

Character impressions: The MC is a young girl thrown into tragic circumstances, but takes the bull by the horns and decides to do something about it. Heroic fantasy novels are often heavily slanted toward male MC's so this diverges in a refreshing way. Not only is the gender bucking the trend, but her demeanor is strong willed and decisive. You see this even before the opening hook action by her stubborn streak displayed toward her parents. Jaden has an interesting military background provided from the beginning and through the chapters. This character needs work IMO to avoid becoming just the background himself. Granted, he's not meant to be the MC, but he is meant to be a major character. Stop gagging him with narrative and let him talk in dialogue more often. Most importantly, provide him a *slant* to his character. The late David Eddings wrote an amazing bestseller series called The Belgariad and The Mallorean. One of the most masterful character creations and interactions are found in his books. Each character has a distinct *slant* that makes them tick from the others. I'll take one of the most extreme for example. "Relg" is a holy man but a known religious fanatic that even annoyed his own God regarding being pure from sin during a face to face meeting at one point. Until Relg undergoes an epiphany of sorts in later chapters, his interaction and inclusion among the other major characters range from smirks, to laughs, to disgust, to one of the more brutish characters considering removing Relg with a sword. What is Jamen's slant? He gets along with Merran, he pays attention and follows along on the magic explanations, but other than providing some military training tidbits he doesn't seem to have a slant at all. I would've expected him to carry a "Magic can't do everything and for most of what you show me I can do without magic in a different way." This could be a source of mild conflict with sorcerers they meet and you could even have him undergo an epiphany later on where he sees the use of magic in a different light. As he is now, he's "I'm following Merran." And little else is coming across from him.

I like Glaselle's design so far. She pays a lot of attention to Merran and that's realistic to me. There are hints dropped in that she also pays attention to Jeran, so the reader is teased with maybe she is attracted to him. Glaselle is shown both in skill, experience, and attitude she can be very different than Merran and the contrast helps keep me interested in the character progression. I did think you benefit more if you took the opposite approach of "I'm happy for you Merran as I mentally add up all the pros going for you." It's more realistic for her to think and/or exhibit some traces of jealousy. Suin has this angle down perfectly in her novel. Would it be as interesting to read about how everyone got along and cheered each other's accomplishments page after page? I think not. Here's how this works IMO realistically - A man says to a group of people, "See those two couples over there? One couple is going to walk hand-in-hand heading left. They will never argue or get upset with each other and will get along very well. Ah, but this other couple heading to the right is different. They will get along sometimes and argue often and may even break up! Now which couple do you people want to follow?" As sad a commentary as it may be on humanity, you can bet most if not all are going to follow the couple going right. It's more interesting is why. I'm only around 20% into the progression of your chapters from book 1, but I hope to see more clashes of opinions, ideas, and maybe even beliefs down the line from the character interactions. No, they shouldn't be constantly fighting and clawing and scratching at each other, but some in moderation goes a long way.

Plot/Events: As I mentioned, the opening hook is great and doesn't get much better than that with early timing to boot. If you're following the 3 act structure or some variant that is closely similar then I should be coming up quick on the 1st major conflict point in your plot. A 1st conflict point recommended at around the 20-25% mark of the novel, a climax of events at around the 50% mark, and a final conflict point at around the 75% mark followed by a resolution for the ending. That's the template but, of course, it's not something that must be adhered to exactly as it's a guide.

I'll break here and may add more later when family members have ceased trying to abscond with my keyboard and PC.

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I think it's very useful information to get a peek into the mindset of a publisher. If you don't mind, please feel free to post such advice they offer. I believe our members can only benefit from seeing such opinions from a publisher. I would also like to ask James Patterson to offer his publisher critiques, but I think my request will go by the wayside smile

Completed reviews for chapters 6,7, & 8 of Suin's Being Fifteen novel .........

I've started my review cycle on your novel, Suin, and this time around I've noticed the diary entries are beginning to lead off in military times? 07:00 / 15:00 / 23:30. To me this would make sense if Alicia were a military brat as they are commonly referred to where her parent(s) are in the military and carry that demeanor into home life as well - usually the father.

But that's not the case for Alicia? And she doesn't have a fascination with the military either. The military time stamping seems to begin on chapter 6 and goes on from there. I'd suggest just date stamping it or leave time references out all together. In my last chapter I reviewed "twitter" was mentioned in dialogue, so we know the time frame for this story is very current to our own. Maybe just call her fifteen-years-old for this year as an example, and then you can time stamp the diary entries like this - July 20, 2016: Today I had to suffer through another suggestion from someone in my review group. At least this time around the advice was less than a page - or a book - as is often the case.

I forgot to ask so I'll put the question here, is your magic system in your world build drawing a cost?

Brandon Sanderson writes that magic systems in magic based fantasy writing can be categorized as - 1. Rigid and all magic operating has clear cause and effect relationships understood from the world building expository given. As an example, you want to throw a fireball at your enemies? First you need to be within a yard of a fire source, second you need to be trained and have the ability to manipulate fire, third you need to possess mana equal to at least 100 normal people. An example of a fairly rigid system to use it, eh?  2. The Middle of the Road approach where some rules are in play and leeway is built in for effect without cause mentioned. This is the method Sanderson recommends. 3. A magic system that is effect with no cause given and no rules governing its usage that is made apparent to the reader. Sanderson cites Gandalf as a good example of this. We see what he can do, but aren't informed as to how he does it.

But the big thing is cost. Is there a cost to using magic in the writer's world build? Sanderson cites Superman as a good example of this. If there was no Kryptonite weakness built in for Superman then readers would quickly tire of an invincible character that could not be stopped. Sanderson also argues Superman's moral rigidity similar to say a Samurai's Bushido code of conduct also acted as a restraint the character had to deal with as a cost to doing business. Probably a better example is the main character in the epic series Eye of the World. Men use *Saidin* a magical power source restricted only for males where women are not even able to sense it's existence, but the cost is they slowly go insane the more they use it over time.

While you could easily tell me "Just read on and you will find out" I'd like to jump the gun here and ask if you've built in a magic cost for Merran, her parents, and others like Goran?

The overall composition and structure of the flow of the event and how it is written ... I like it ... although that is just my vote.

You begin with a narrative of the description type and set the scene for the reader. The noise is emphasized by making it the main subject, which I don't have an issue with since it is the noise that is the pertinent event in that scenic moment.

I'm pretty sure I recently reviewed this same chapter, and I'll still adhere to the idea that you should nix "foxes" and "raccoons". The thought of a bear is perfect and if you need another animal, I think I suggested mountain lion or a pack of coyotes. The point is to set the feeling of danger for the reader, and raccoons and foxes won't check mark that box for you. You want the reader to feel the situation is dangerous or developing in that direction so avoiding what detracts from that is helpful.

Structure - It's pro level to me. Creative writing university instructor David Swain, PhD and best selling author Randy Ingermanson and award winning author and instructor K.M. Weiland are all proponents of the MRU writing structure. This is where you write an observational moment or scene then a particular order follows using paragraph separation to emphasize the sections to the reader: 1. Thoughts/feelings, 2. Reflex action no thought required 3. Action/reaction to observational event/scene/moment, and 4. Dialogue (example: "Dammit! I'm bleeding!). The champions of this methodology don't agree with each other in using all 4 levels or as needed but keeping the order for the structure. Ingermanson strongly believes one should write all 4 levels and then rinse/repeat until you've finished off the overall goal in that arc. Weiland says it's fine to leave out a step or two for what isn't called for as long as you follow the sequence and don't drop one over the other out of order.

You're doing this perfectly here. The noise is the presented moment then you move the reader to the thoughts/feelings of the MC and so on throughout the example provided. The dialogue is positioned well and you've even included effective similes while elevating the tension from beginning to the middle to a hint at the end with the girl drawing the reader's attention back to the ominous woods.

You've done some good "showing" verses telling in this sample. For example, instead of telling the reader the girl ignored Tony and continued to look toward the woods, you showed it through her actions. There are brief descriptions of the dress verses just saying "dress" and nothing more. The descriptions should be brief as you've done since you're trying to ratchet up the tension of the moment and longer descriptions work against that by slowing down the pace.

I'd only offer a couple more suggestions on this. Unique number dropping should be numerically expressed so use "Is this 9-1-1?" For example, you wouldn't want to write "He drove a nineteen fifty eight Chevrolet Corvette." No, you would write "He drove a 1958 ....etc...."

The other item is to change out "blood gushed from the wound" which immediately makes me think a of major blood loss leading to bleeding out and death in minutes. I think something less would work better >> and blood seeped out from between her thighs.

To conclude, there is a lot going right in this sample and I thought how you shifted from narrative to character moments was especially well done as evidenced by maintaining the pace and tension of the scene.

Okay, that's what I thought too. I now realize he has both interwoven throughout his novel, so I think what he's really doing is staying in omni most of the time with instances of dropping into 3rd limited.

I agree that if the reader doesn't care because the story immersion is good enough to pull them along, it's not an issue.

I'll have to keep out any POV comments in future reviews as he's mixing the two, and I had thought all along he was intending to stay in only one form.