Well, to elaborate further on my first review, I'm not a grammar professor but I was beaten up during a six week comma course online taught by whatever is the next level beyond a comma queen.

When I originally posted my first few chapters, my work was particularly savaged by reviewers over a lack of understanding of comma placement. That's when I took the online course called "Comma Sense" where not only was the instructor a comma ace, but her brother, who helped on the grading, is an English teacher for the last thirty years.

It is one of the universal comma rules that if a coordinator (coordinating conjunction: FANBOYS) is 6 words or less for the first independent clause--you omit the comma. You can see this implemented within most of your favorite novels that have been proofed in this manner.

The pause is a myth. My high school English teacher spent one class session on teaching us commas are where you hear the pause and moved on, leaving me with a total lack of understanding. I suspect, he himself, didn't know enough to teach about them. Why is it a myth that commas are where you hear the pause? Everyone hears pauses differently. We do not all hear the pause (if the comma is omitted) exactly in the same place for each sentence structure.

There is, however, one venerable voice in the creative writing world who has offered a valid argument to this. In his book on creative writing, Stephen King explains there are times he wants the reader to pause at a certain point, consequently, damn the comma rules he will place the comma for effect. King's words carry additional weight, beyond his incredible success as an author, when we recall he was an English professor prior to becoming published. So if you, as the author, want the reader to pause and place the comma at a particular spot--then so be it.

You, or anyone else I review, are free to use any examples I reword exactly as mentioned, if you feel it will help.

I completed a review of Alkemi's - Souring Seas, chapter 1.

I completed a review of Ann's - Aloha Spirit, chapter 1.

Yes, that worked. Actually, I didn't even have my novel linked so I used it instead to experiment on. By entering the edit function of the novel then go to the publish button you can update that novel to this group and it will show up under this group's content.

I noticed that, too. I didn't see a way for me to add it to this group's content from my end but I remember Cobber had said he linked his novel to this group. I believe you have to enter your settings and add this group for that novel to the existing TheNextBigWriter Premium group. Then it should show up in content.

I'll run an experiment and see if I can post my short story this way to the group's content.

No, I just simply guessed based on what I saw posted as the current reviews. I'll swap to your preference--it's not the first time I've guessed wrong. Next time, I'll just wait and ask instead of jumping the gun smile

Thank you, Alkemi. I mentioned this before, but for a while I've noticed when our reviews crossed on the same author, you had a very good eye for catching issues. All the members in this group share that observational ability and, collectively, I feel we will benefit each other's work greatly.

I took a quick look at the changes you've placed in the revision chapter. The changes are even better than the ones I suggested. I need to figure out how to do that myself.

There's a misspelled word >> Justin [inputted] several commands

The rest of it looks very solid. I especially like how you reworked the futuristic description for the heavily shielded ship. You also took my suggestion on turning the romantic aspect dial up on Dmitri's surprise visit from his wife and made it even better. Dammit, do my revisions for me!

1. Stephanie Dubois
2. Cobber
3. Matthew Abelack
4. Randall Krzak
5. C J Driftwood
6. Jube
7. Alkemi
8. Suin

This is the revised current rotation list of our members for reviewing order, following the addition of Suin as a member.

For new members, I'll state the group's expectations:
1. One in-depth review is expected to be completed, to the best of your ability, on the designated member in the rotation within a 20 day time period. Begin with their first chapter unless you are already ahead of that. If that's the case, you should just review the next chapter you haven't reviewed yet or check with the author to see if they want you to go back for a revised one. After completing the required review, you are free to: review anyone else outside the group, review the next author on the rotation list if you want to move ahead, or take a review break and wait for the next 20 day designated author.

2. Review with the intent to zero out anything an agent, an editor, or a publisher may find objectionable within the work.

3. Make a lot of noise, with the rest of us, when we get the news a member's work has been published or self-published smile And don't forget to demand an autographed copy of the book from the author--I know I will.

This section is reserved for further discussion regarding Alkemi's novel - The Souring Seas and subsequent novels......

Completed a review of C J's Raven's Curse - chapter 1.

I completed a review of Randy's chapter 1.

I completed a review of Matthew Abelack's chapter 20, moving on to Randy's chapter 1.

Sorry, Ann. I should've put the explanation of the rotating reviews over here instead of having them separated on a different thread. Basically, we want to review 1 chapter for each person on the rotation in order. While keeping in mind, everyone has different levels of time to commit for writing/reviewing, I settled on a 20 day window as a decent pace that I believe we can all make. Since Stephanie Dubois was first in the rotation, everyone would be asked to complete a single review within the 20 day window time frame set then they could go review anyone outside the group, or do whatever they like until the next 20 day window came up for the 2nd listed person. However, if a member wanted to go ahead and review the next member in the rotation before the 20 day time slot came up, they certainly could do that. So if I needed points and decided to do 7 reviews in the 20 day time slot for Stephanie, I'd end up doing one review for all members on the rotation list. I hope that's somewhat clear else it would explain why I get reviews noting sections that need clarity in my novel-in-progress smile

If the times comes and you want to put in another review for a member before August 29th, please put one in for #3 Matthew Abelack since you already finished the first two members.

To all, remember it's fine to move at your own pace. Some will have more time and inclination so will be reviewing faster and others have things going on in life that aren't able to review at the same speed as others. I only ask everyone try to maintain the single review within the 20 day time frame for the person up on the rotation list.

This section is dedicated to any further discussion for the novel.

I completed a review of Cobber's chapter 1 version 2 today.

Yes, if you don't mind--it's heroic/medieval style fantasy for the genre.

I'm beginning to feel like the kid in 8th grade P.E. class, that is getting lapped repeatedly, at the rate you are churning out reviews.

This section will be dedicated to any general comments or questions group members would like to post.

This section is devoted to notification of any completed reviews on group members:

The current rotation as of 9/26/2016 is -
1. Stephanie Dubois
2. Matthew Abelack
3. Randall Krzak
4. C J Driftwood
5. Jube
6. Alkemi
7. Suin
8. NJC

Reviewing Stephanie Dubois: time frame July 20, 2015 to August 8, 2015 (20 days)
Matthew Abelack – completed on 7/20/2015
Randall Krzak – completed on 7/20/2015
C J Driftwood – completed on 7/20/2015
Cobber – completed on 7/20/2015
Jube – completed chapter 24 on 7/22/2015


Reviewing Cobber: time frame August 9, 2015 to August 28, 2015 (20 days)
C J Driftwood – completed on 7/21/2015
Randall Krzak – completed chapter 20 on 7/21/2015

Reviewing Matthew Abelack: time frame August 29,2015 to September 17, 2015 (20 days)
Randall Krzak - completed on 7/22/2015

Good job everyone! Thanks to all of you, the first member on the rotation list has the reviews already completed. It looks like I was the only one holding that up, but I completed my review on Stephanie's work today. The rest of you finished on the first day, July 20, 2015.

C J Driftwood and Randall Krzak have already finished the next member on the list,Cobber, with reviews completed yesterday.

Randall has moved on and completed a review of the 3rd member, Matthew Abelack, today.

I think it's going to be tough going for me to stay aware of where everyone's at on reviews without some help from all of you. If you don't mind, I'd like to create a section where you would just post when and the member in rotation you reviewed. I can see now, it won't be needed for me to nag anyone falling behind since getting the required review in seems to be a snap for everyone. No, I want to track the reviews within a given time frame for a contest idea I have. The idea I will discuss with all of you in a separate post soon to see if you think it's a decent idea or needs to be filed under - "Dorky idea, keep sealed from the light of day".

Hmm, for my 2 cents here, I think using names for minor characters is fine as long as you stay aware of not promising the reader anything to lead them to believe that will be a major character in the future. The reader usually decides this based on the amount of focus you give the character: what they look like, what they are saying, what they are doing, etc. So if it's intended to be a throwaway character, I'd keep the focus investment in that character to a minor level of involvement. For example, you've got a butler named Jeeves (No, not the one from the internet search engine!) and he occasionally appears in some scenes within your novel. Giving him a name but keeping his interaction at a minor level: he brings the tea, he prepares the meal or snack for guests, he has no follow up once he exits the room with the empty tray--he can keep a name and not throw a reader off by giving off the vibe he is more than a throwaway. But if he is in the scenes: assisting the main character with a sniper shot by calling out vapor trails as a spotter, driving the getaway car with more than average skill, helping with strategy and equipment--he's crossed over the line as a throwaway.

I thought (pun incoming!) I'd share this under tips, regarding what was pointed out in my chapters by an offsite reviewer a couple days ago.

Thought tags: He/she thought, he/she wondered, he/she contemplated etc... So I naively used a few of these, and my reviewer correctly pounced all over them, explaining not to use them and instead submerge the thought line so that it is similar to a narrative line. Here's an example - They piled out of the car, after parking in front of the convenience store. Jaycee's eyes blinked rapidly as she grew nervous. "Do I have enough cash on me, or do I need to borrow from my friends again," she thought. >> I checked some author blogs and other sources that confirmed the reviewer was correct. The preferred method - They piled out of the car, after parking in front of the convenience store. Jaycee's eyes blinked rapidly. She nervously wondered if she had enough cash on her, or would she need to borrow from her friends again? (no italics, no quotes, no thought tags)

Probably most, or all of you, already adjust for this, but I was found to be inconsistent in this area. I'll be sifting through my chapters to ferret these out, and all I can say is yet another example of how valuable a reviewer with a good eye is.

I think you just have to click the "subscribe" heading in the blue bar section far right. I also believe you would have to do this for each separate topic to get email notifications.

Ann Walters will also be joining us. I knew I'd end up bungling the settings, so someone can click on the group and wait for permission to join. I'm just waiting for the connection to be established then I'll send the invite to her.

This section is dedicated for members who wish to post ideas, techniques, or examples of what can help other members in their creative writing journey.