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jack the knife wrote:

Until someone can give me an example whereby putting in that last serial (Oxford) comma confuses the meaning instead of clarifying it, I'll be an Oxford comma writer! There's no reason not to use it, IMO, other than a determination to avoid commas at all cost. And then the onus would be on the anti-Oxford comma writer to make sure the sentence doesn't give the reader the pause he was trying to avoid in the first place.

Hear, hear! Anything that clarifies meaning is a boon to writers. There are way too many authors who assume commas are optional, or worse yet, merely decorative. If you're not sure how to punctuate, you need to find a reliable editor.

In AZ, back seat passengers are not required to use their seat belts. That doesn't mean they'd be better off without them. Same with the Oxford comma. Do everything you can to insure your readers' experience.

Sideman wrote:

Not sure this would qualify, but "Family Man" with Nicholas Cage. The story begins with an incident on Christmas night and changes his life dramatically. There are Christmas references and scenes in several places.

That sound like it qualifies.

Have you seen these? They're definitely not cliche. Great movies for holiday viewing.  Action adventure with a Christmas message.

Christmas horror and Christmas comedy lists coming up.

1.    Less Than Zero  (1987) sex, drugs, and the holidays
2.    The Ice Harvest  (2005) Small-time crook plans a big-time theft
3.    Things to Come  (1936) Poised on the eve of the apocalypse
4.    A Christmas Carol  (1951) Weird, scary dreams
5.    Twelve Monkeys  (1995) Bruce Willis travels through time, Brad Pitt goes nuts
6.    Trading Places  (1983) Young Eddie Murphy as a Wall Street trader
7.    Die Hard (1988) Murderous bad guys take over an office Christmas party
8.    The Long Kiss Goodnight  (1996) PTA mom remembers CIA agent
9.    We’re No Angels  (1955) Escaped convicts help out (remade in 1988)
10.    The Night of the Hunter  (1955) Preacher/serial killer
11.    One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest  (1975) Jack Nicholson in an asylum
12.    The Ref  (1994) Crook masquerades as a marriage counselor

Any more weird Christmas movies out there?

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I refer you to yesterday's, discussion, begun by suin. We are all suffering from the same complaint.

Charles_F_Bell wrote:
j p lundstrom wrote:

Amen. The audience dictates the writing style. Which means we should know before we start for whom the work is intended.

"I was having a dream. A really odd one. Generally my dreams involved a blonde on a beach who was very open-minded. In this case, I was standing on a dock on a lake. The water was a perfect blue as was the sky. There were hills on the far side and they were such a perfect green it was literally unearthly. It was, easily, the most beautiful place I’d ever seen."
Flesch-Kincaid Grade = 4.48

"Like you know I was listening to my music when like the guy is staring at me, so I am telling him what the fuck, man, who is giving the right to go gazing on me like you king or something and am telling that loud, but he is gazing and staring and going all weird, so like you know it is telling me he is just crazy."
Flesch-Kincaid Grade = 25.85

We are amused.

https://www.online-utility.org/english/ … mprove.jsp

Hey, Charlie!
Not exactly sure what you're trying to say, but as long as it keeps you amused, we don't need to worry about you.

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Nkechiyerem Emenike wrote:

Hello, good to be here! I am Kech.  Is TheNextBigWriter still active?  I see only three books on home page.

Kech--Have you resolved the problem? You should be able to see everything that's posted, The most recent postings appear at the top of the list, and you can scroll down for more. JP

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Helena--
Just read your short story. Great start!  JP

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Congratulations, Randy! Nice work!  JP

njc wrote:

The argument of audience versus art is a messy one.  (Or should I just write ' is messy'?). I don't have a final conclusion on the question, but if your purpose is to reach the audience, you might make different choices than if you hope to write for the ages, or if you are writing to see how far you can press the technique, or to flaunt your virtuosity to other writers.

Amen. The audience dictates the writing style. Which means we should know before we start for whom the work is intended.

It would be a good idea to remember that we are all learning, standing at various points on the line of progression to mastery. With that in mind, we should be aware that
1. Some of the criticisms we receive are things recently learned by another learner, possibly misunderstood before being passed on.
2. Some of the criticisms we receive may be intended as a caution against repetitive use, not an admonition against use.
3. Some of the criticisms we receive are from people who don't understand an individual author's writing style.

There is no argument against use of the progressive. The appropriate use is something we should have learned in freshman English class. IF THERE WERE NO USE FOR THE PROGRESSIVE TENSE, IT WOULD NOT EXIST. But as with all things, use it wisely. Not repeatedly, which makes for boring reading, and only where justified.

There are frequent misuses of verb tense more irritating to the reader than the use of the progressive.

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Congratulations! So happy for you! I'll head right over. Under what name are you published?

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Many years ago, I was turned on to the science fiction genre when I mistakenly checked out The Puppet Masters from the library. I wanted to read everything. I loved Robert Heinlein's stories. Of course, the stories were pretty clean back then, so I read them all, not noticing any difference between those written for YA readers and those for adults.

Ah, youth! I came across this one day and saved it.

Writing is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but do it in private and wash your hands afterwards.
– Robert A. Heinlein

What are some of your favorite quotes about writing?

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In my first attempt at a novel, I posted a chapter here wherein a character was murdered. His dying words were supposed to be a clue.

Unfortunately, in my effort to protect the main and secondary characters, who had personalities I liked, the murdered guy was inconsequential in the story. The most telling comment I received was that I had killed off a character in whom the reader was not invested. In short, nobody cared that he died.

If a character is liked and accepted by the reader (and, by extension, the author), his/her death has greater impact. Makes a better story.

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Marilyn Johnson wrote:

I laughed out loud when the article said if a horse kicks you, kick him back.

Well, that settles it. Even I know to go to a real authority when you have a question. Sixty years of experience gives you authority.

I get irritated by authors writing "cowboy romances" who don't know anything, and can only tell a cowboy by his hat. You've probably seen the covers of their books.

Thanks for the real story, Marilyn.

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I took a peek. Very interesting.. It always helps if the reader can sense authority in a writer's work. Who among us hasn't come to a grinding halt when coming across a writer's dumb assumption?

Not planning to write anything with horses right now, but I'll earmark it for future reference.

What does Marilyn think about it?  JP

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If he's standing there, looking at the water, it's 'the sea.' If he's thinking about the geographical location and its importance, it's the 'Sea of Galilee.'
Examples: The sea was turbulent, tossing the fishing boats like shuttlecocks. OR The Sea of Galilee served as the backdrop for many biblical events.

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I tried it,Temple. It looks to me like something that would please those who have a long morning and evening commute and a cell phone.

Guess I'm not a word nerd. I can't see myself having the patience to fiddle around and wait for graphics to arrive at something I already know, or something that's at my fingertips in the American Heritage Dictionary or Roget's Thesaurus.

If I were a student who didn't have a great vocabulary or a firm grasp on the parts of speech, I might feel differently.

It's a toy. If it imparts learning as well as enjoyment, so much the better.  JP

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Marilyn Johnson wrote:
Seabrass wrote:

Are you a good swimmer?

Prime example of why I rescue 4-legged asses instead of 2-legged ones.

You tell 'em, Marilyn! Somebody's gonna have to write a book and call it 'The Unsinkable Marilyn Johnson.' First, it'll be a smash on Broadway, then it will win nine Oscars, at least. Time to start thinking about who should play you.

You'll be fine.  JP

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Good to hear from you. I have planned to pare down my involvement with any more projects, so I won't be available to work on such a contest. You'll need to find someone to oversee the project.

At this time of year, most everyone will say they are involved in school, family and holiday events/preparations, so they don't have time to write a contest entry. If you would like to plan for early next year, I'm sure Sol would like to hear from you.

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Mariana Reuter wrote:

Sol, would it be possible for you to remove Dallas Wright's posts from this thread so people may continue the discussion without them annoying us?

Well, somebody removed something. These recent posts wouldn't appear to be related in any way, except for Dallas's quotes. Thank God for the the right of free speech.

Sorry to edit your post, Mariana.

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I haven't tried it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. You're the author--you have the godlike power to create the story you want. Enjoy.

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SolN wrote:

I know Anita Mumm has worked with members from the site before. She's taught a Strongest Start class in the past.

https://anitamumm.com/

When can we expect to see another class? Sounds like a good investment.

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Good one, Temple!

The article does offer some useful suggestions. My pet peeve is related to the two about too much description of the setting and giving the character's height. That is detailed description  of a character's clothing, hairstyle and makeup. Unless it has a direct bearing on the plot, forget it. Give the reader a chance to visualize the character.

We have all gone through phases of overuse or misuse of punctuation. It's part of the learning process. (I wrestle with the semicolon, em dash and period, too.) For that reason, we should all learn to accept criticism with grace, even though we may wish to give in to feelings of hurt and anger. It does no good to offer protestations of artistic freedom. If It's wrong, it's wrong.

The good thing is once you get it right, your work is better, easier tor read, and more widely accepted. And isn't that what we want?

In a writing mode,
callous = hard-hearted, unfeeling
callus = a thickened and hardened part of the skin or soft tissue, especially in an area that has been subjected to friction.

Nobody's perfect. As I recall from Sunday school, Jesus Christ had quite a temper. He lit into some money-changers at the temple, and even gave some pigs hell. Let him show his righteous anger, possibly get carried away, and maybe even get arrested for causing a scene in Starbucks.