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(31 replies, posted in Close friends)

Well I read chapter 11.  Oh my God.  Whatever.  It is utterly gripping. The door is still open, we don't know what Sarah is going to do.  She is schizoid.  She knows something is wrong, but every time Hugh is near, she is submissive.

He is asking her to be engaged.  She doesn't really know how he makes his money, where they will live, does money dribble out into oblivion, how does he make an income, etc.  AND PROBABLY STEALING HER PHONE, DELETING MESSAGES FROM HER FRIENDS (WHO DON'T LIKE HIS AGENDA) He is beyond belief. 

I say you don't need to be worried about making her a people pleaser.  It is evident, but down the road it might be good for Jack and Alicia to admonish her about that.
I don't worry about this Chatholic stuff, it is looming anyway, but maybe the mother can make it more obvious the ballet shouldn't be her destiny.

PS Killing Hugh would be justifiable homicide.  (just joking).  Now I know the writer and bit of the way she thinks, I would love to know, how much of this is true...no I don't want to know.  That would be cheating.  But she writes it so close...I think it is coming from home. Anyway, you have come a long way from when I first read your stuff.  Congradulations.  No, Being 15, is solid, it just had some growing pains.

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(31 replies, posted in Close friends)

Chapter ten and hugh sticks his mouth out again, fucking everything up with her friends. It may be true to life, some people let the others sway them away from what they really want to do, but it is not good for the hero of a novel to do that. novels are to correct that shit. But Suin has a tendency to lead everybody over the cliff, and then gradually they catch a parachute, that's what she did with her first book 15. But me, i don't know if I can take another chapter of this guy. But remembering the opening chapter of this book, her return after 15 years to an outrage sister, how do you get a parachute for that?

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(63 replies, posted in Close friends)

I'm gonna stick to my idea for these reasons.  One, you need hero in this story.  It's a young adult story so you need big time friends in the story too.  Plus the way it is written we are thinking Athens, then Helga. It's confusing. And there is magic when the reader is privilege to information the leading character isn't.Like Anthens agrees for Helga to take over body for this and that, and then is utterly shocked when she discovers what she did, Athens being unconscious when Helga has taken over.  Also I love the idea, one is in love with one boy and the other with another   To make Helga a hero, she needs to be nice to Athens, help her even help her with her despondency like a big sister, and  when Athens gets in trouble, have Athens agree for the help, especially when the Brotherhood is mean and ruthless and she is being supposedly the demon. and declared the evil one. And making Anthens a puppet with no personality , with helga completely taking over the body isn't very heroic. More demon like. Give Athens a personality and interaction with Helga, and it will be so so fun to write.

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(9 replies, posted in Close friends)

forget publishing for a moment.  You don't have a box for your story or my Radio Revolution here.  Let me open the forums on your Heaven and Hell work.

See if other people agree with me.

I feel Athens needs to talk to Helga, both realizing they are stuck in the same body.  they need be friends.  When Athens gets in a jam, Helga can ask if she wants her to take care of it?  And Helga should never say anything negative about Athens.  Athens loves Patrick, Helga loves Oxford.  So they swamp places to be with their loves.  When Helga is conscious, Athens doesn't remember what she did, she is surprised later until Helga tells her what she did. Then she is embarrassed or pleased depending on the situation. AFter chapter 35, when Athens is thrown from the car and saved, and Patrick comes running up to her, she is totally unaware of what happened when she was first kidnapped and asked Helga to help her.  Patrick can't figure what is happening. And about this time in the story, Athens finally admits to Patrick what is happening.  And he has to believe.  He witnessed it.  He tells Athens what happened and his father tried to kill him for the brotherhood, but now he is dead, too. Athens is sympathetic to Patrick and they make love right there in the bushes.  Voila, what an ending. PS, you need Buchanan in the car too, explainiing to no 700 why giviing up his son is a small price to pay for the reward of catching Helga the demon. And father  arguing but finally tearfully submitting.

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(31 replies, posted in Close friends)

Suin has added another chapter. Chapter nine.  Sarah, the leading character, how do you say, the protaginist is trying to be nice to all the people involved, her mother, father, even Hugh. And the reader has no idea what Sarah will do next.  But because of the stage set up, we all will have definite idea of what she will do, though each of us will probably have a different wish.  Good writing. Open the air.  Those of you who haven't read her stuff, be tuff, but you'll find it grounding, and exploring. If she gets off the beaten path, let her know.

Well I read the first chapter and it reminds me of the Avatar Movie. My comments were it rushed the information while the story was taking place in a tense survival moment.  Not a good space for back story.  Some reviewers called it confusing, but if you can slow down the information I see it as a fine opening chapter.

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(31 replies, posted in Close friends)

This is Suin's current work, though she is dong the Canal story simultneously.  She is using the same characters that she did in the Being 15 book, this one centers on Sarah, Clair's sister.  it is an easy read, well laid out,and my reviews have been mostly looking for places to embellish the work.
One suggestion is to bring Alicia's character more prominantly into the story. In her last chapter, I'm not sure of the number, maybe 8 or 9, I made these few suggestions.
  She really needs a dialogue between Hugh and the parents, and Sarah..not just (Hugh introduced himself to the parents.) It's a critical moment in the story, and we need Sarah's reactions to this dialogue and her own rebutal to this event. And I would have thought she would have revolted more than she did.

2) The father dropping the tea.  Not mention he even had it, and he moved to the couch.  Pay attention to the logistics on the tea dropping..

  It's sad.  Sarah will never be able to forgive Hugh, and his pushy ways, and if she has the baby, she'll never be able to forgive the baby, likely.  And he will hound her if she loses the baby and goes to the Russian ballet, so she can't even let herself do that.

I've noticed in life, and it is done well here, too,  When people are talented, the untalent ones think the talent ones are obligated to maximize their talents.  Sad.  it'll break up Sarah from the family completely.  I can see why she disappeared for 15 years.  Wonder why she even came back.

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(6 replies, posted in Close friends)

My name is Norm Winter.  I live in Hawai for the past 40 years. I started buying used phonograph records in 1962.  I might be the first to do that in retail.  And I might be the last.  I’m still buying em.  My writing career started in high school when I was assigned the job of writing a children story in my senior English class.  The teacher told me it was ungradeable and to write another one.  I didn’t.  I flunked English, and never did graduate from high school. Taps.  Decided to be a song writer and almost made it with Lou Adler and the Brill house before suddenly being drafted into the Army.  I was sent to korea, and did have some song writing success with Korean music.  Out of the Army, I went into the retail record business. Meshing that with being a rather unconventional radio host as the years past. Married late, have four kids, wife past away twelve years ago.
           My mother always told me I should be a writer.  I have no idea why. But in her things that I found after she died, I found that story that ended my education, Dick and the Steam Shovel, and I liked it enough, I did a bit of an expansion on it, found this site and posted and reposted it several times waiting for a review.  Never came. My kids refused to listen to me read it, even.  But I still loved it. Then I saw everybody was writing books on the sight, and they were getting reviews with books, not always with short stories, and being a natural rebel,( I found that out about myself after seventy-five years,) I decided to write revolutionary books.  The First was Saga of the Mighty Valentine Cosmos.  The second was the Autobiografitti of Grandville  Rodriquez (the outlaw “who” saved the world) and the third I’m currently writing is the Radio Revolution about my experience in radio. I’m a bit shy with dealing with agents in this squeezed to death organized conglomerate world we live in, but I did try once.  She said she would take it on, then after the response of the publishing world she chickened out making her excuse…and this is a quote…”Too outrageous for the modern day reader.”  Oh Well. I might go into self publishing. I just don’t know how computer and websites work, I just discovered Email, so I’m scared about doing that.  But I do plan to have ten novels by the time I reach 85. I’ll let the world figure out how to publish em.  For a guy who is horrible with grammar and punctuation, this site is real good for me, and sorry, but I learn what not to do in writing from what you guys do, sometimes.  Anyway, great site, and despite being a hermit, I’ll join this group. .
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(1 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)

I'm gonna tell you how to write.  Probably nobody will listen.  But just in case somebody does, here it is. I really don't understand why people make drafts.  Read your own stuff with an open mind.  I mean don't masturbate on what you write. 
Then reading will give you ideas for the next chapter.  Chapters need to be build upon  each other leading to the next chapter.  Reading what you write will lead you to the next chapter naturally.  I really don't like to make drafts.  I write a chapter, read it, change it, expand on it, cut out some, before I go to the next chapter. And in the process I get ideas for the next chapter.  This making a notebook of ideas seems senseless to me.  Ideas come in the process of writing, not from a far in disjointed thoughts. And writing drafts, like they say at writer conferences, is stupid.  Why rewrite when you haven't built a solid base?  After you write a chapter and have gone through it real well, then before you write another chapter post it at the Big Next Writer and get additional feedback before you go to the next chapter.  There have been quite a few reviews that made sense to me and so I incorporated them into the chapter, then I move on to the next chapter.  One exception was the Saga of the Mighty Valentine because so many reviewers didn't get what I was writing. So I was forced to rewrite the whole damn book.  So if the reviews come in bad, fuck it, rewrite the whole damn thing.  If they come in good, then hell, keep building. Chapter by chapter.  i went to a writer's conference and paid an agent 100 dollars to read 30 pages for a critique.  She read it, and said, it is the first time I never been able to give a suggestion..  It perfect the way it stands.  Why?  Because my reviewers made comments I took, as well as helping me with proof reading. so by the time she got it, it was perfect. And boy, do I need proof reading.  That's the secret in a nutshell. 
She asked for my three books.  Of course, wouldn't you know it, she ended up turning them down with this famous statement.  "Too outrageous for the modern reader."
Oh well, the point is, if you go through the review process and listen when it gets to an agent she'll think you are a professional.  Verbose, yeah, but important to say, I think.

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(62 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

it simply means at least I understand it

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(9 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I can't in to the contest.  They say I need to be in a group.  I don't know how to get into a group.  I posted two three chapter novels that are published but not available for the contest somehow.  My group is the nextbig writer primium.  That group doesn't count.  I don't understand.