Mikira/Karen,

Anyone who contributes to this group is welcome to solicit the support of it. We are here to help writers bring their dreams to fruition and that's more than just getting feedback.

I wish you luck with your kickstarter campaign.
Sol

Are you joking?

Then maybe this site is not the right place for you.

I see no problem at all with someone who has developed their book on the site and spent the time to help others (as Mikira has done) putting out a call for some help promoting their book. In fact, I encourage it.

Let's worry about 1000s of promo threads if that happens. We can always find a solution.

Sol

Hi Tonya,
Yes, you may edit up until the end. We will pull the last version on the 31st and that is what will be judged.
Best,
Sol

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Dirk is correct. You just post the revision as a new chapter and increment the version number. For example, say you want to put a up a new version of Chapter 3. You might already have Chapter 3, v1. Just post a new version of Chapter 3 with the changes and make it Chapter 3, v2.

You will not change the old chapter. Instead, you will post a new copy with the changes and increase the version number.

This allows you to preserve the older version and create a new one that reviewers can earn points for and that also goes to the top of the queue. Once you do this, you can decide to keep the old version live or deactivate it.

Sol

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I think our disagreement is somewhere near this point: that the format of a forum would allow an extended exchange that the review format does not.  The ability to add multiple reviews and to comment on other reviewers' inline comments moves us in this direction, but does not take us there.

What I'm hearing is that something in the current review process could be improved. There is not enough opportunity for back and forth feedback. Creating a forum link is one potential solution to this problem.

But another solution is to enhance the review process so that it does allow for a more extended exchange. Others have mentioned organizational issues. The best way to organize reviews is around the actual work, wouldn't everyone agree? So, I would submit, the solution might not be sending people over to a forum, but rather continuing to enhance the review process we have now.

What part of that process limits you from  having a real exchange? Do you want threaded replies? Alerts when someone posts a new comment? Let me know.

I want to thank everyone for their feedback. I may sound a bit testy at times but I really do appreciate all of the deep thinking you are doing about this.

Thanks,
Sol

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Sol.  Something changed a couple of days ago. Now, when I begin an in-line review I cannot change the font size. The mouse turns into a 'hand', but nothing happens when I click it.  I can change backgrounds and reverse the text, but sizing the font is unavailable.

Are you able to resize any in-line reviews? I've noticed that some content, depending  on how it is posted, does not resize well.
Sol

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Is there a way to send all of your connections the same message at the same time? Am I not seeing it? And if there isn't a way is that something we can look at?

Not currently but I do know it's a feature that has been worked on. I'll have to check and see where it stands.
Sol

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I was trying to use my android phone with the default browser to respond to someone else's entry on the Wish List thread. I was able to read their part of the thread, but when I was typing my reply in the Write Message box at the bottom of the screen, after a few paragraphs, the view kept jumping up to display what I was responding to, rather than where I had been typing. I had to abandon the reply. This may be because my reply was too long for the android screen and things got confused. That's just a guess though.

Hmm. Not sure. I'll try testing it a bit. We did have an android problem with the forums earlier today. Try it now and see if it's better. Let me know.
Thanks,
Sol

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Thanks Dirk. There are a lot of great ideas here. One sentence struck me a bit and I want to explore it a bit more.

Also, how would others who are not reading the book potentially participate in discussions if they have to search the bottom of each chapter for activity.

Why would others who are not reading the book want to participate in a discussion about the book? What this suggests is that every conversation, discussion, etc. about every book be made visible to every member regardless of whether they have read the material or not. Even Amazon does not do this. This to me this indicates that the forum discussion has become elevated in importance over the actual work being discussed.

I guess this is my main disagreement with those advocating for more forums. I don't see this site's primary mission to foment forum discussions, but rather to help authors fine-tune their writing. In the process, discussions will occur, friendships will be made, but it is all done under the framework of helping one another become better writers.

Thanks,
Sol

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Okay!  It's working again.  Thank you.

Noticed the problem the same time you did. It's fixed.

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The short story class is $120. Most of the money goes to pay the instructor. If you can find instructors who will work for free let me know.

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Okay, I got it all. Some we'll do, some we won't. Bickering in the forum isn't going to change things. Let's move on.

I have some questions about military veterans that I need some help with. If anyone is a veteran of the US military or is presently serving in the military, let me know. I'd be interested in speaking with you. Email me at snasisi (at) thenextbigwriter.com. Thanks!

Thanks,
Sol

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As I understand it (and trust me when I say my understanding is still wobbly), changing version numbers does not generate a for points 'new' content listing. Therefore, unless you make announcements and send private messages to everyone, it will never be seen as an edited version and they won't earn points for reviewing the rewrite.  In order to generate a new content listing that offers points, you need to create an entirely new project--even if it's just an edited version of an already existing project. He's done this to replace the old 'republish' feature. While I like the fact that he did away with the exorbitant point sucker, I don't like being forced to turn a single project into endless multiples in order to continue getting valuable rewrite feedback.

This is incorrect. To publish a new version of a chapter, publish the new version like a new chapter but mark it as V2 or V3 or whatever the right number is. Then you can either deactivate the old version or even keep it up if you want your reviewers to be able to compare the two. The newly published chapter will appear everywhere and everyone will know.

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If authors really want more feedback, then pray tell why don't they offer some opinion on all the comments left in the inline review instead of only a few words in the final comment section. You can agree or disagree with what was said or even offer a totally different interpretation. You can question why the reviewer sees things that weren't intended at all or show why you chose to do something a particular way and start a conversation in which others could offer various points of view. In other words, you've got a forum built into the review process just as Sol envisioned and implemented.

This is the purpose of in-lines but I don't think we are fully there yet. The problem is that there is no notification when someone posts a comments so the author and others have no reason to go back to the in-line. We're working on a new version of the in-line review system that will address this and hopefully move more towards the vision I have for the tool. I do believe this is the place to focus the site's resources as opposed to building out the forum system.

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I am a member on another website, and the way it gets around this problem is that the dialogue box for the inlines contains two sections.  The top 75% contains the entry text for your critique comments (it also scrolls as the text gets larger than the space).  The bottom 25% shows the text you selected to edit.  This section can be collapsed or expanded to be larger, and also scrolls.  The inline box is also larger overall, so it doesn't feel so cramped.  With this feature, the text you have selected to comment on is ALWAYS just below your comments.  It's very convenient.

We can do this. I'll add it to the list for the second version of inlines we are working on.

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When giving an in-line review, I highlight text, release the mouse, and almost always start to type. The GOTCHA is that the focus is NOT in the text box for the review - it is still 'out there, somewhere" on the web page and my browser receives the entered keys. Sometimes it just ignores them, but sometimes it can really mess up a web page or even take me completely OFF the site entirely.
Would it be possible to have the focus shift to the box opened for text?

Yes, we will look to add this to the new version of in-line reviews we are working on.

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Also,
last week I kept getting email telling me I had a request for a new connection. I got about 6 or 7 in a few days. When I check, no new requests were there. Also I aften get two notifications for the the same site message. I don't know if it's me or something gone awry.

Hmm. I'll check into this.

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Sol, this may be a new bug. I reviewed Janet Taylor-Perry's Abyss, chapter two, this evening between 9-10 PM ET. I had numerous problems getting the inline comments to submit. It may just have been a performance issue with the site. However, I discovered that a little impatient duplicate clicking eventually made the inlines submit. I subsequently saw that I had left 55 comments, which is way more than I actually had left.
Google Chrome on Windows 7.

This sounds like a connection issue. I suspect either you had a temporary problem connecting to the site, or the site had a temporary problem connecting to the Internet. Please let me know if the problem persists.

Thanks,
Sol

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That said, are you suggesting we use a series of regular or inline feedback reviews to have a discussion? I suppose reviews could be used for that (the complete set of reviews appears right after the chapter), although that workflow right now would involve an awful lot of clicking and scrolling. And how would we be notified if someone has added another review to someone else's work? Are the coming enhancements going to address all of that?

Why does it involve more clicking and scrolling then going to another forum, finding the thread, going to the end of it and leaving a comment? I don't really  understand the logic of this workflow.

In terms of being notified, this is something we can add in the future and seems like a much better solution than creating a new forum for every piece of posted content. Assuming the author wants others to be notified.

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I've had the thought several times that perhaps the blanket email notifications should be cut off.  What could replace them would be a checkbox on each of your connections that was labeled: "Allow email notifications from this connection".  If you read a posting from someone who isn't on your connections and didn't particularly like the posting, but wanted to see more, then connect but don't check the box.  However, if you did like it, then make the connection and add the tick in the box.

This already exists. You can turn off email notifications per connection. It says this at the bottom of the email alerts. You can do this via your Connections page.

http://www.thenextbigwriter.com/connections

Sol

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Much bigger wish item: for each author, and for each work, an authomatically created forum thread that appears in its own place AND ALSO can, at the author's discretion, appear in each or any of the groups in which the author is a member.  For the 'root' groups (premium and ?base?) the author/work threads should probably be shunted to a nested set of forums.

I don't understand the purpose of this. Right now, you can leave as many comments as you want on a piece of writing. You can have conversations and within in-line reviews you can even have multiple threads where you can discuss items right in the document. We'll be expanding this functionality soon.  Why would you want to take these discussions back to a forum which is just loosely attached to the work in question? This seems like a massive step backward. The most logical way forward to me is that comments on the work should be on the work, not on an associated forum.

That's the thread I deleted. That's the reason you can't access it. I guess I need to change the messaging for deleted threads.