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I'm not sure if this was brought up in the wish list yet, so I'm just going to add my wish to the list.

Yesterday as I was promoting the new group I created yesterday, I was hoping to find a Twitter button and a Facebook button on the home page of the group, so I could click it to tweet or share it directly without having to copy and paste the link into my Twitter feed or onto a Facebook post.

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dagnee wrote:
Norm d'Plume wrote:

I would recommend using the Writing Tips & Advice group for such a discussion. If we keep putting all threads in Premium, we'll soon have all kinds of unrelated conversations here that were intended to belong in other groups. Otherwise, why have them?

Either way, let's take this out of the Wish list thread.

Dirk

So, Norm, what exactly is the main group for? Just to discuss the site? I still think that a discussion on writing would best be served if the widest possible audience was exposed to the thread. Also, there are people that might want to contribute but won't because it involves joining another group. smile

I'm wondering if the best way to handle this would be to have a "global" page of all topics/threads, grouped by group name. In other words, one place to go to see all threads in the system, grouped by Sci-fi, Fantasy, Premium, Writing Tips, etc. The content for the global page would be the topics/threads from those actual groups, simply presented as a global page. Posting a new topic on the global page under a certain group would automatically place the new topic in the appropriate group's forum, as well as show it on the global page. This would be a nice way to show all threads for the whole site in a single place where we could quickly scan/scroll through the lists of topics. in one place. Obviously, it would need search and filter capabilities to narrow the result set.

The global page would have to have a function that allows a user to join "open" groups immediately, without leaving the global page. Groups with restricted membership would probably need limits on what can done from the global view (read-only, read-write, or completely unavailable to others outside the group).

This approach could also eliminate the need for resurrecting the old forums, since all posts would remain attached to a group, but shown in a way that the old site's users are used to. It's just a different view of the same database.

Dirk

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How are we coming with 'printable' functionality?  For me it would be helpful to do clean prints not only of content but of reviews and replies.

Just making the drop-downs print as they appear (instead of by their content) would be 80% of the solution.  It might be easier to do it sitewide than page by page.

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Minor request. Can we have Reading List as one of the options on the READ menu on the home page. I know it's on the main menu on the right, but I frequently look for it under the READ menu. Not a big deal. Just a nice to have, especially for people still getting used to the site.

Thanks
Dirk

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Aloha Sol,
Can you create a clickable link on the word 'CONTENT" for posted writing that brings up a second, separate screen containing only the content so I can copy, cut and paste, using CtlA or CommandA, then paste this copied content into WORD or EDITMINNOIN or AutoCrit or ?

EXAMPLE :

CLICKABLE LINK HERE >>>>> Content

The Host

Dank cold basement. Black candles. Blood-painted pentagram. Heavy incense. Stereo blasting virtuoso guitar and thunderous drums. .... + rest of story of course.

... DISPLAYS ALL CONTENT FOR CHAPTER, SHORT STORY , POEM, etc.

TX -max

P.S. This would also make it easier for me to print content.

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I think what we really need is some clarification. What is this group for? Just discussing the site? Member announcements? Site announcements like contests beginning, winners named, class costs and dates? I think if SolN would just let us know the purpose of this group that would be more helpful than redesigning the whole system.
Most groups tell you the topics that will be covered in their name. Not so much with this group.

Groups are whatever you want them to be. There is no single purpose to a group. Make of them whatever you want. I have shown a few examples of what they can be: a workshop, a class, a discussion group, but I'm sure there are other great applications. Go for it.

Sol

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Sol:

I can foresee a problem with a freewheeling 'group' creation ----> our current limit on the amount of groups we can join. At the moment, I think it is 10. What if you dropped using the group's picture on our home page and just created a simple list of groups as a link to that group. Since joined it, we'd already know what they did so the name wouldn't throw us. That would give quite a bit more room on our home page - increasing the real estate to add joining more than 10 groups.

~Tom

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We have no plans to increase the limit beyond 10.

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Would it be possible to change the default for the little checkbox on new posts so that the author of the post doesn't accidentally forget to subscribe? I wouldn't be surprised if I've forgotten to check the box on at least some posts. I would imagine most people want to be notified if someone responds to a topic they posted. Those who don't want to receive an email can always uncheck the box.

Also, what is the default subscription behavior for the quick reply? If I'm not already subscribed, will it default to making me subscribed? It probably should.

Thanks as always.
Dirk

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Linda Lee wrote:

Also bumping the request to make keeping track of where you left off on novel reviews as easier process. It was tough on the old site, but even tougher on this one. Perhaps a color or highlight of anything you've reviewed in the chapter list drop down? Or leaving the check mark at the last spot you reviewed?

I agree.  I'd like to follow some of the authors I've read so it would be great to make this an easier option.

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whitepaws wrote:
Linda Lee wrote:

Also bumping the request to make keeping track of where you left off on novel reviews as easier process. It was tough on the old site, but even tougher on this one. Perhaps a color or highlight of anything you've reviewed in the chapter list drop down? Or leaving the check mark at the last spot you reviewed?

I agree.  I'd like to follow some of the authors I've read so it would be great to make this an easier option.

If you use in-line reviews then it is already there; it shows you which chapters you have reviewed when you open the menu of chapters by clicking the little arrow to the right of the chapter number/title of whichever chapter you open. Take care. Vern

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I noticed that when I receive an email notification that someone has replied to a topic to which I'm subscribed, clicking the link in the email takes me to the bottom of the last page of the topic, which is where I want to be. However, the links down the right hand side of the home page take me to the start of the first page of the topic, requiring us to click to the last page of the topic, then scroll down to the bottom. Would it be possible to change it so that it always goes to the end?

EDIT: Thanks! :-)

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Oh yeah!!! I agree wholeheartedly, Dirk. I is aggravating to have to do that especially in multi-page threads like 'site bugs 2' and such.

~Tom

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Kenny showed me a very useful feature the other day that completely slipped my notice all this time. If there are unread replies to one of the posts in the forum, a link appears under the post's subject line that says New Posts that takes you directly to the new replies.

That link should be made *very* obvious. Maybe a bold, bright green. It's incredibly useful to have that. A quick glance at a forum page looking for bright green New Posts links would tell me if there's something I haven't read. (Technically, it should say New Replies not New Posts.)

Thanks.
Dirk

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I wish I could make changes to my text while viewing an inline-review.  This may be available and I just don't know it. If so please teach me.  When I see and nit or a comment that I agree with and want to change in my text, it would be so nice to be able to edit right there in the review.  Thanks for any help you can give.
Mike

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On the home page, if would be very handy to have a checkmark to the left of each work (chapters, shorts, essays, etc.) showing which ones I've reviewed. That way, when I see something in the list of books or my connections, I'll know at a glance whether or not I've already reviewed it. This would probably be most useful for books, where we see that someone has posted a chapter (e.g., 17) but don't readily know if that's the latest of their chapters that we've already reviewed vs. a new one to be read.

Thanks.
Dirk

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When you list recent inline reviews on the home page, with their authors, please consider listing the reviewer as well.  When I have a review from someone new, it can help me to read another review or two by that same reviewer to learn what the reviewer looks for and what special betes noir haunt that reviewer.

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Mike Roberson wrote:

I wish I could make changes to my text while viewing an inline-review.  This may be available and I just don't know it. If so please teach me.  When I see and nit or a comment that I agree with and want to change in my text, it would be so nice to be able to edit right there in the review.  Thanks for any help you can give.
Mike

Mike--I just pull up a new tab on the browser and go on site to my portfolio, then pull up the content I want to edit, so I can read the review on one tab, and make corrections on the other. That way, I can flip back and forth between tabs instead on backing up page by page from review to edit. The only thing you have to remember is to save your changes at the bottom of the edit page when you're done, or they don't take and all your changes are undone. You lose your work if you leave the edit page without saving. I know, STST (same thing, said twice) but I forget from time to time and have to start over. That hurts if you've gone though more than one review. 

I don't know if there's a more efficient way to do this. Maybe someone else does.  JP smile

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I use Word (or OE Writer) so when I read, and comment, an in-line review I have my copy open in another window. As I agree with a nit, I make the change. That way, I'm always up to date and can grab a chapter if I wish and post it immediately.

~Tom

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I've asked that either reviews, works/chapters, or subscribers be given something like a forum space.  Here's a situation that shows why: I've been reviewing a story by Randall Krzak.  Our discusion in reviews has been carried out by adding additional reviews.  Normally I suggest that an author open a forum for his work in a group he and I share.  But Randall and I share only the Premium group--that is, the Everything/Everybody group.  This doesn't seem to be the best place to open a discussion centered on one author or one work.

Why not join one R. Krzak's groups?  Well, I began to review his story not out of shared topic interest but because he has an interesting story and he seems to be working on skills that I'm still working on, so I hope to help and learn at the same time.  This seems a sound basis for reviewing, and for having a forum.

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njc wrote:

I've asked that either reviews, works/chapters, or subscribers be given something like a forum space.  Here's a situation that shows why: I've been reviewing a story by Randall Krzak.  Our discusion in reviews has been carried out by adding additional reviews.  Normally I suggest that an author open a forum for his work in a group he and I share.  But Randall and I share only the Premium group--that is, the Everything/Everybody group.  This doesn't seem to be the best place to open a discussion centered on one author or one work.

Why not join one R. Krzak's groups?  Well, I began to review his story not out of shared topic interest but because he has an interesting story and he seems to be working on skills that I'm still working on, so I hope to help and learn at the same time.  This seems a sound basis for reviewing, and for having a forum.

I know it's not ideal, but since Sol has made his position clear on not changing the forum format (you can still keep your fingers crossed for a change of heart), you could use the inline review to create your own forum. If you select the first word of the first chapter to start your discussion, then you could simply keep adding back and forth comments to create a forum simulation. Anyone could pitch in if so inclined just like other forums - of course they could also be blocked if so desired.  True, it might be like a fly buzzing in your ear at first, but you should become an accomplished swatter fairly quickly. One peripheral benefit could be that since you are already in the work being discussed you could go more quickly to any chapter which might be alluded to by using the options available without having to leave an outside forum to go to the work at hand. Just a thought and better than nothing perhaps. Take care. Vern

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You don't get alerts on subsequent updates, and if you did, other reviewers would not see the alert.  Reviews differ from forums in this way.

And yes, I'm carrying grains of sand in the hope that others will build a sandpile of evidence to convince Sol and his team that something is called for.

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There's also the Additional Feedback forum. You can start a thread in that group (or any other one) dedicated to that novel. The reviewers I interact most with are members of the Medieval group, so each of us has a thread there, even though some of the books aren't even Medieval. It's messy, but it works.

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njc wrote:

You don't get alerts on subsequent updates, and if you did, other reviewers would not see the alert.  Reviews differ from forums in this way.

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Yes, I understand  you wouldn't get alerts, but if all the reviewers were notified then they would simply have to check. I for one don't rely on alerts to visit the forums, simply look for any action. The same could be true in your simulated forum if folks were interested enough to participate. As stated, it is not ideal, but then what world is. Take care. Vern

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Hmm.  Why can't that be hoisted to a top-level, everyone group?  That would be the smallest of architectural change?

Of course allowing a 'soft link' or 'appearance' of such a thread in other groups would support people who ... nuts, I want to sit down over an Entity-Relationship diagram.

Meanwhile, I'll have a look.  Thanks, Norm-D!