1 (edited by Memphis Trace 2015-03-02 20:53:50)

Topic: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…
who would like to form a group composed of 12-15 writers that would review each other’s work and review the reviews of each other’s work. The idea for this group springs from a workshop group of aspiring writers I hosted in my office for 10 years.

Within the 1st 18 months of formation, that group of 15 evolved into a group that met for 3½ hours biweekly on a Saturday starting at 9:00AM to review a writer’s work submitted at least 2 weeks prior. The writer being reviewed brought breakfast. I made coffee bought by the group.

In the 1st hour, we went around the table with each attendee except the author reviewing the piece for no more than 4 minutes, preferably from notes written during the previous two weeks. A member of the group volunteered to enforce the time limit and to keep other members from interrupting. If the group was below full capacity, the moderator was lax on the 4-minute limit. Folks were free to get up to go to the bathroom, get coffee, eat some of the laid out breakfast, etc.

At the end of the hour, we broke for 10 minutes to talk about my grandchildren.

In the 2nd hour, we went around the table with the attendees reviewing the reviews. This was pretty much a free-for-all, but the moderator had a rubber hose filled with lead sinkers to break up fights. Folks were free to get up to go to the bathroom, get coffee, eat some of the laid out breakfast, etc.
At the end of the hour reviewers handed their notes to the author and, we broke for 10 minutes to talk about my grandchildren.

In the 3rd hour, the author opened the hour by telling the group how he was helped by the reviews. Then the author asked questions of the group members and answered questions from the group members.

I would like to be part of a group of from 12 to 15 members that adapted the basic structure of the in-person group to fit TNBW’s capabilities.

I see the reviewing to be conducted as follows:
1.    During week 1: 14 members receive a work with 5 of the members assigned to review it.
2.    During week 2: 5 different members review the work and review the reviews submitted by the first 5 members.
3.    During week 3: 4 remaining members and the author review all the reviews and all the reviews of the reviews. And the author thanks the reviewers by telling them what waves the stones they had cast into his pond caused.

The groups of 5 would revolve each week and a new piece would enter the spotlight each week. The spotlight would shine on the pieces in the order they were received.

I would like for the group’s wit and wisdom to be open to all the members of TNBW. I would like for the group to be composed of the 1st 15 TNBW members who survive a spirited discussion to help set the rules under which we’ll operate to wear togas when they write and refer to themselves as Charter Members when complaining about having to stand in line at the grocery store behind men talking about their grandchildren.

I would like for anyone in TNBW who becomes interested enough in what we are doing in our group to queue up in a waiting list to join the group. I would like for our group to be TNBW’s best review group and the waiting list to join it to be the longest.

After we’ve set the rules, but before we start work, I would like for us to agree on a name for the group. I would like to suggest Dante’s Inferno with a sign over the door that reads: Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.

I would also like to talk frequently about my grandchildren during the weeks between reviews, reviews of reviews, and reviews of reviews and the author’s genuflections to the group.

I would like for all my likes to be subject to sharp and eloquent disagreements during the period in which we set up the group.

Memphis Trace

Re: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

I'd be very interested.  And I have a few questions...

Will the bulk of communication of this group transpire on the group forums? And/or will there be any offline conversations? As the group founder, are you choosing initial membership?

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Re: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

Linda Lee wrote:

I'd be very interested.  And I have a few questions...

Will the bulk of communication of this group transpire on the group forums? And/or will there be any offline conversations? As the group founder, are you choosing initial membership?

I would like for there to be a vigorous discussion of how to set this up.

I hope members will continue to converse off site with whoever they care to, but I would like all the work of this group to be available for the TNBW public to view. I would also like it if everybody in the group would say every thoughtful thing they have to say where every other member can get the benefit of it.

I really hope by the time this group is set up that it can be said that I chose no one. I'd love it if the next 13 writers (besides you and I) who show interest in this group, became Charter Members. I think a vigorous process of hammering out the ground rules will make the final group self-choosing. I am also not opposed to letting the group grow a little beyond my suggested 15 should there be questions about who got here 1st.

Right now, you're No. 1.

Memphis

Re: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

Sounds like fun...  but I'm not going to be 'available' for a few weeks due to personal issues.

sad

Maybe when I get back?

T

Re: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

TirzahLaughs wrote:

Sounds like fun...  but I'm not going to be 'available' for a few weeks due to personal issues.

:(

Maybe when I get back?

T

TirzahLaughs,

We'll keep a light on for you.

Memphis

Re: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

I'm in. I only have two questions: 1st how will we get breakfast to everyone in the group. 2: How will we set up those 10 minute time slots to talk about your grandchildren?

Oh and Tirzah, I'm so happy that you are still a member of tNBW.

Re: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

Memphis Trace wrote:
Linda Lee wrote:

I'd be very interested.  And I have a few questions...

Will the bulk of communication of this group transpire on the group forums? And/or will there be any offline conversations? As the group founder, are you choosing initial membership?

I would like for there to be a vigorous discussion of how to set this up.

I hope members will continue to converse off site with whoever they care to, but I would like all the work of this group to be available for the TNBW public to view. I would also like it if everybody in the group would say every thoughtful thing they have to say where every other member can get the benefit of it.

I really hope by the time this group is set up that it can be said that I chose no one. I'd love it if the next 13 writers (besides you and I) who show interest in this group, became Charter Members. I think a vigorous process of hammering out the ground rules will make the final group self-choosing. I am also not opposed to letting the group grow a little beyond my suggested 15 should there be questions about who got here 1st.

Right now, you're No. 1.

Memphis

Good deal. When are you planning on starting? My work schedule is going to be hell for the next two weeks--after which I have a nice long stretch of time to devote to this.

Re: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

Linda Lee wrote:
Memphis Trace wrote:
Linda Lee wrote:

I'd be very interested.  And I have a few questions...

Will the bulk of communication of this group transpire on the group forums? And/or will there be any offline conversations? As the group founder, are you choosing initial membership?

I would like for there to be a vigorous discussion of how to set this up.

I hope members will continue to converse off site with whoever they care to, but I would like all the work of this group to be available for the TNBW public to view. I would also like it if everybody in the group would say every thoughtful thing they have to say where every other member can get the benefit of it.

I really hope by the time this group is set up that it can be said that I chose no one. I'd love it if the next 13 writers (besides you and I) who show interest in this group, became Charter Members. I think a vigorous process of hammering out the ground rules will make the final group self-choosing. I am also not opposed to letting the group grow a little beyond my suggested 15 should there be questions about who got here 1st.

Right now, you're No. 1.

Memphis

Good deal. When are you planning on starting? My work schedule is going to be hell for the next two weeks--after which I have a nice long stretch of time to devote to this.

I've copied and pasted this call for members into a forum posting inside the group I formed. Two folks have already asked to join in the discussion to start the group. I think it makes sense to discuss the ground rules in that forum. What do you think? One of the folks asked that I do that. The temporary name of the group is TBD (To be determined). I think to enter that forum, you must ask to join the group.

I doubt that your hectic of schedule for the next two weeks will be much of an issue.

My guess is that it will take us longer than two weeks to agree on our rules of engagement. I'm guessing that popping in and out will suffice. Nobody is going to start submitting work until we've voted on the rules. And to my way of thinking, it ought to be at least a 3/4s vote to accept our rules before we launch. And then members against ought to have the chance to withdraw and allow anyone else who wanted to join the approved rules to opt in.

I'd love to at least launch this endeavor with the unanimous and enthusiastic approval of the members.

Memphis

Re: Call for aspiring writers, wreaders, wreviewers…

Memphis Trace wrote:
Linda Lee wrote:
Memphis Trace wrote:

I would like for there to be a vigorous discussion of how to set this up.

I hope members will continue to converse off site with whoever they care to, but I would like all the work of this group to be available for the TNBW public to view. I would also like it if everybody in the group would say every thoughtful thing they have to say where every other member can get the benefit of it.

I really hope by the time this group is set up that it can be said that I chose no one. I'd love it if the next 13 writers (besides you and I) who show interest in this group, became Charter Members. I think a vigorous process of hammering out the ground rules will make the final group self-choosing. I am also not opposed to letting the group grow a little beyond my suggested 15 should there be questions about who got here 1st.

Right now, you're No. 1.

Memphis

Good deal. When are you planning on starting? My work schedule is going to be hell for the next two weeks--after which I have a nice long stretch of time to devote to this.

I've copied and pasted this call for members into a forum posting inside the group I formed. Two folks have already asked to join in the discussion to start the group. I think it makes sense to discuss the ground rules in that forum. What do you think? One of the folks asked that I do that. The temporary name of the group is TBD (To be determined). I think to enter that forum, you must ask to join the group.

I doubt that your hectic of schedule for the next two weeks will be much of an issue.

My guess is that it will take us longer than two weeks to agree on our rules of engagement. I'm guessing that popping in and out will suffice. Nobody is going to start submitting work until we've voted on the rules. And to my way of thinking, it ought to be at least a 3/4s vote to accept our rules before we launch. And then members against ought to have the chance to withdraw and allow anyone else who wanted to join the approved rules to opt in.

I'd love to at least launch this endeavor with the unanimous and enthusiastic approval of the members.

Memphis

Memphis,
FYI, you can add a link in responses like this that will take people to that new group
http://www.thenextbigwriter.com/group-tbd-61