Topic: Punctuation

From today's Daily Writing Tips for anyone interested:

A Guide to Internal Punctuation

Posted: 22 May 2018 04:01 AM PDT

This post outlines the functions of punctuation marks employed within a sentence: the comma, the semicolon, the colon, and ellipses.

Comma
A comma performs a number of functions, including

A.  setting off elements of a list (“I’m going to order soup, salad, and an entrée”)
B.  combining with a conjunction to separate two independent clauses (“She ordered dinner, but she declined the dessert menu”)
C.  separating a preceding dependent clause from the main clause (“Depending on the size of the entrée, I might not order dessert”)
D.  separating a nonrestrictive relative clause from the main clause (“We were overwhelmed by the menu, which was six pages long”)
E.  setting off an adverb from the main clause (“Ordinarily, I would not order dessert”; “I would, ordinarily, not order dessert”; “I would not order dessert, ordinarily”)
F.  framing parenthetical phrases (“I will, just this once, order dessert”)
G.  setting off an appositive (“My favorite dessert, cheesecake, is missing from the menu”)
H.  setting off coordinate adjectives (“I feel like having a big, thick slice of cheesecake for dessert”)
I.  setting off an attribution from a quotation (“My friend said, ‘I’m going to order dessert’”)
J.  setting off one or more words identifying the subject of direct address (“John, are you going to order dessert?”)
K.  setting off a date from a year and parenthesizing the year (“January 1, 2018, dawned just like any other day”)
L.  setting off a city name from a state or country name and parenthesizing the state or country name (“Lebanon, Kansas, is the geographic center of the contiguous United States”)
M.  setting off a surname from a given name when the first-name, last-name order is inverted (“She is listed as ‘Doe, Jane’”)
N.  indicating ellipsis of one or more words (“Everything was as I remembered it—the church was white, the barn, red”).

A comma should not separate a subject and a verb (as in the erroneous sentence “The tiramisu, is sublime”) except when it is closing a parenthetical phrase (“The tiramisu, as expected, is sublime”) or setting off repetition of a verb (“What it is, is sublime”). Likewise, a verb and its direct object should not be split asunder (as shown in the incorrectly punctuated sentence “She intuitively grasped, that she was in trouble.”)

Another error that involves a comma is a comma splice, in which a comma, rather than a stronger punctuation mark such as a semicolon or a dash, appears between two independent clauses not separated by a conjunction, as in “You see a half-empty glass, I see a half-full one.” (An exception can be made for brief declarations, as in Julius Caesar’s famous summary “I came, I saw, I conquered.”)

Semicolon
The semicolon has two primary functions. First, it unites two closely related independent clauses, as in “You see a half-empty glass; I see a half-full one.” (In such cases, it takes the place of a period or a conjunction; including both a semicolon and a conjunction is an error.) Second, it replaces two or more commas in an in-line list (a list with a sentence) when one or more of the list items itself includes commas, as in “The names, as listed, are Doe, Jane; Jones, William; and Smith, John” or “I spotted many squirrels; several deer; and a hawk, an osprey, and a heron.” (If the list organization is obvious, as when list items begin with distinct verbs, commas may be employed, as in “She shopped at the supermarket, visited the bank and the credit union, and ran errands at the hardware store, the drugstore, and the dry cleaner’s.”)

Earlier usage included setting off coordinate clauses in complex sentences or to otherwise signal a more pronounced pause than a comma would suggest, but these approaches, especially the former, are outdated.

In quoted material, a semicolon always follows a close quotation mark. Also, the mark may seem too formal in the midst of a sentence in quotation marks; a dash more clearly conveys a transition to a separate assertion or idea, as in “Mary said, ‘Don’t go in the abandoned house—it’s not safe in there’” rather than “Mary said, ‘Don’t go in the abandoned house; it’s not safe in there.’”

Colon
A colon precedes

A.  quoted material set up by a complete statement rather than an attribution (“His reply was succinct: ‘Not a chance’”)
B.  an explanation (“We declined the invitation primarily for one reason: He insists on driving, and we don’t feel safe as his passengers”)
C.  a list (“The meal consists of the following courses: appetizer, salad, entrée, and dessert”).

It is also employed between pairs of numbers to represent ratios (“The results indicate a 5:3 ratio”)
in references to time (“The next train is at 1:35”)
in numerical representations of elapsed time (“The record stands at 3:26.00”)
when citing biblical verses (“John 3:16 expresses the same sentiment”).

A colon also separates a book’s title and subtitle or, in bibliographies, the city where a publisher is located and the name of the publisher. In formal writing, it follows the salutation.


Ellipses
Ellipsis means “omission,” but it primarily refers to a succession of three periods, called ellipses, usually interspersed with letter spaces, or a single symbol representing three periods. Style guides differ in which form is preferred, but the ellipsis symbol looks cramped, and use of ellipses (a series of periods) is more visually pleasing.

Ellipses represent omission of one or more words in the middle of a sentence (“A friend . . . knows all about you and still loves you”); generally, they are unnecessary when omitting what precedes a partial quotation.

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Good stuff.  Thanks, MJ.

Don

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Thank you, Marilynn, I do need this, but I have to admit it's hard for me to stay focused for more than a few paragraphs in.

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Wow, Marilyn--you do pack a punch!
I was just thinking, and I wondered: is an ellipsis one set of three dots, or would three dots, being plural, be ellipses? JP

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Hah, maybe this will help me with my damn comma splices. Thank you for sharing, MJ!

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j p lundstrom wrote:

Wow, Marilyn--you do pack a punch!
I was just thinking, and I wondered: is an ellipsis one set of three dots, or would three dots, being plural, be ellipses? JP

One set of three dots is an ellipsis. More than one ellipsis are ellipses.

Not sure what Marilyn meant by an ellipsis symbol (other than dots). I tried looking it up and got nowhere. And to my mind, using a symbol of some sort instead would confuse most readers, so why bother?

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jack the knife wrote:

Not sure what Marilyn meant by an ellipsis symbol (other than dots). I tried looking it up and got nowhere. And to my mind, using a symbol of some sort instead would confuse most readers, so why bother?

All of the info came from Daily Writing Tips, which is emailed to me daily.  They always have some great tips, so I copied and pasted their info here for those who don't subscribe to it.  I think they were referring to the dots as the 'symbol.'  At least that's how I took it since there is no other ellipsis symbol that comes to mind.

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jack the knife wrote:
j p lundstrom wrote:

Wow, Marilyn--you do pack a punch!
I was just thinking, and I wondered: is an ellipsis one set of three dots, or would three dots, being plural, be ellipses? JP

One set of three dots is an ellipsis. More than one ellipsis are ellipses.

Not sure what Marilyn meant by an ellipsis symbol (other than dots). I tried looking it up and got nowhere. And to my mind, using a symbol of some sort instead would confuse most readers, so why bother?

Some keyboards these days have the elipse as a single key- that may be the "symbol".

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C J Driftwood wrote:
jack the knife wrote:
j p lundstrom wrote:

Wow, Marilyn--you do pack a punch!
I was just thinking, and I wondered: is an ellipsis one set of three dots, or would three dots, being plural, be ellipses? JP

One set of three dots is an ellipsis. More than one ellipsis are ellipses.

Not sure what Marilyn meant by an ellipsis symbol (other than dots). I tried looking it up and got nowhere. And to my mind, using a symbol of some sort instead would confuse most readers, so why bother?

Some keyboards these days have the elipse as a single key- that may be the "symbol".

Ah.

10 (edited by Norm d'Plume 2018-05-23 19:36:12)

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My version of Microsoft Word (2007) replaces three periods with an ellipsis symbol. It looks almost the same, but it's one character. I can't recall if I configured the software to do that, but I'm sure they have the same feature in newer versions of Word.

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

My version of Microsoft Word (2007) replaces three periods with an ellipsis symbol. It looks almost the same, but it's one character. I can't recall if I configured the software to do that, but I'm sure they have the same feature in newer versions of Word.

Ah!  I'm using the 2013 version, but haven't noticed that feature.  Maybe I'd better take another look.  (But then again, it only takes half a second to do ... )

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In 2007, it's under word options/proofing/auto-correct/replace as you type.

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Can someone please help me with the following sentence:

Teresa thought they might have more landing areas closer to the centre, but couldn’t make any out.

Unless I'm mistaken, the second clause is dependent. So why the comma?

Thanks
Dirk

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

Can someone please help me with the following sentence:

Teresa thought they might have more landing areas closer to the centre, but couldn’t make any out.

Unless I'm mistaken, the second clause is dependent. So why the comma?

Thanks
Dirk

C.  separating a preceding dependent clause from the main clause (“Depending on the size of the entrée, I might not order dessert”)

It falls under C above in the original thread post, but in your case the dependent clause is at the end of the sentence.  It works the same.

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So the following is correct: I might not order dessert, depending on the size of the entre.

Thanks
Dirk