Topic: Social media - do you do it?

I see advice everywhere (writing sites, writing blogs, writing books) that in order to have a platform when you publish, you must begin getting your name out there early. I'm wondering if any of you follow that advice, and how it has worked for you?

Do you blog? Use Twitter, Instagram, Facebook? If so, how much? And are you also writing fiction? Have you published, and do you find that having a presence on social media has in fact accomplished anything? I've tried blogging for fun (it is rather fun, the topic was books!), but I found it so time-consuming I deleted the blog. Wouldn't my time be better spent actually writing fiction?

I'd love to know people's experiences on this topic. Also, if you blog, what do you blog about? Almost invariably, I find that writers blog about books or writing. How do you stand out?

Thanks! corra.

2 (edited by Randall Krzak 2017-09-14 13:22:22)

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I have a website/blog (www.randallkrzak.com), use Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.  I only post on my blog, called Randall's Ramblings, each Sunday. It is about my writing journey, but I also include reviews of books I've read, a section to post links (mainly on other writers), and whenever I find a good writing resource, I include that as well. I use Twitter the most, followed by FB and LinkedIn.

My publisher strongly recommended have a website/blog and using social media. Has it helped? I'd say yes, based on the continued contacts I'm making who also push out the word about my debut novel, The Kurdish Connection.  In addition to social media, I'm also a member of a number of websites where I can share information about my work.

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Thanks Randall! Did you begin writing it before you published, or after (at your publisher's recommendation)?

Your site looks really nice. LOVE the Guardian review! That's exciting! smile I can't find a link to your Twitter feed. I'd love a peek to see how you use it?

4 (edited by Randall Krzak 2017-09-14 13:37:44)

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Many thanks!  I had most things set up prior to the recommendations from my publisher, mainly because of the suggestions by people here on TNBW. They've continued to make suggestions, which have been extremely beneficial. I'm slowly increasing my contacts across the various media sites.

My Twitter account is under @rjkrzak

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Randall Krzak wrote:

I'm slowly increasing my contacts across the various media sites.

I assume that is the purpose of it? Or possibly to give people a quick glance at your writing skills online? I notice you tweet about your novel. I couldn't do that as I've never written one in full, so I'm a bit puzzled about what I would say.

As to blogging, I'm hung up on theme. Everything says have a theme when you blog -- a point to your site. Mine might be history, as I hope to publish historical fiction. But what era? What topic? What part of it -- women in history? children in history? I have no history degree, and may write my next book in a different era. I have a super exciting idea for a reading project, but it is in no way related to my writing, so I feel it would split my attention. If I blog on history (a possible avenue), do I attempt to present myself as an expert (I am not), or an explorer (I am)? If I share my exploration in history, am I then giving away all my research? Also, there's the whole Hemingway thing: don't talk about what you're writing until you've written it. So why am I blogging before I write the novel? I find it upside-down. My instincts are all screaming "write the novel! Forget the platform for now," but this flies in the face of all the writing advice out there. Possibly I'm overthinking it, or beginning with the final course when I have yet to eat the salad. smile

Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else feels this way, or has successfully taken on social media and seen results. It sounds like you have, Randall. I appreciate you sharing!

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Corra,
I do just about everything other than Instagram. I have an account but have never posted so I don't list it on my website. Yes, it helps to do social media and blog if for no other reason than to get your name out there and make contacts. Many of the authors/readers you develop a cyber relationship with, will be helpful to you in many ways. They'll share info about conferences, specials, references, changes in marketing, etc. They'll also be willing to feature your book/books on their websites at times.
It is a lot of work and time consuming but if you want your books found and promoted, it's necessary. I spend more time marketing (which is what social media really is) than writing. I hate it. Really I do. But to gain any measure of success (barring a one time mention by some famous person or blogger) social media is a must.

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I use Tinder. But mainly for research.

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Only under one of my penn names (I have three - a different one for each genre I write in). I completely and totally abhor social media. The Facebook account I have under my real name - haven't logged onto for over 3 years. My wife, who is not an author, also deplores social media.

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Thanks Ann and Alan! Ann, what do you blog about? Alan, do you find that you are at a disadvantage since you're not on social media in each of your genres? (I vaguely recall you mentioning recently that you'd started a blog?)

Dill, your feedback wins today's merit badge. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/245.gif

10 (edited by corra 2017-09-14 18:41:38)

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Only under one of my penn names (I have three - a different one for each genre I write in)

Oh, never mind my prior question, Alan. I misread this line originally. I thought it meant you write social media only for one of your three genres under one of your three pen names. I see now you mean you write for social media only under pen names, of which you have three. That must be a lot to keep up with! smile

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Anybody do Pinterest? I was looking at the website of one of my favorite current authors (Sally Cabot Gunning). She doesn't blog. She is on Facebook, Goodreads, and Pinterest. I popped over to her Pinterest site & saw this right away - https://www.pinterest.com/salgunning/mo … t-gunning/

WOW! That looks way more fun than blogging! smile

https://www.pinterest.com/salgunning/time-capsule/ <---- I know!

12 (edited by TirzahLaughs 2017-09-14 21:14:09)

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HANDLING SOCIAL MEDIA
You can set up a TWEET DECK or a master site ---where  you can create one post or one item and link across your multi-sites.
So your blog post would be come your Twitter post, which would show up on your Facebook.  smile 
As for themes---you can be a broad or as narrow as you like.

BLOGGING IN GENERAL
If you don't enjoy blogging--don't do it.   You can engage in other ways like Pinterest or Twitter.
If you do BLOG, then pre-write some 'filler' blogs early on.  These fillers can be posted when you are sick, overloaded, on vacation.     It is great to have 10 or so short blogs saved to post on those 'need a break' days.   Also,  a few times a year, you can have a guest blogger talk about their book, answer questions or post on a topic you share an interest in.

BLOG Names/THEMES
I think you should do a theme of  "The Truth in Fiction " or "The Truth in Writing" or  "The Writer's Truth" It gives you a broad platform to talk about historical fiction but it's broad enough to allow you to explore other areas of interest.  You are a truth finder and thoughtful researcher and writer.   



Tirz

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Thank you for those ideas and suggestions, Bunny. I haven't talked to you in a while. I hope you're well. xx

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corra wrote:

Thank you for those ideas and suggestions, Bunny. I haven't talked to you in a while. I hope you're well. xx

I'm functional.
smile

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corra wrote:

Thanks Ann and Alan! Ann, what do you blog about? Alan, do you find that you are at a disadvantage since you're not on social media in each of your genres? (I vaguely recall you mentioning recently that you'd started a blog?)

Dill, your feedback wins today's merit badge. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/245.gif

I do a weekly feature on my blog called Five on Friday where I have an author answer 5 questions (they choose from a list) and also promote their book/books on the same blog. If you do decide to blog, the main thing is to be consistant. Just a random post now and then won't do any good. I get more followers on FB, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Pinterest through that feature because I share it on all my social media...which brings people to my site. I also post a snarky cartoon/quote once a day on Fb and Twitter...although I've missed about 5 days now because of life getting too busy. Since I've started doing that, in 6 weeks, my Twitter followers doubled.
To get authors to participate, I simply post an invitation on a couple of groups I belong to and here on this site. I can fill every Friday for 6 months within a couple of days!! Authors are always looking for places to promote their books. In return, those authors I feature will invite me to their blogs for a feature of my books! That's why I say it's all about the connections you make. It does take work and time because I have to set the blog up and load the images. But, I put each blog in draft form as soon as I get it, mark it on my calendar that it is in draft, then on the day of the blog, all I have to do is hit publish and then share on social media. It takes me about 45 min. to an hour to set up each blog.

~Ann

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I have a website, FB author page, twitter, Google+, and Instagram.
My website is pretty static, my twitter is mainly generic scheduled posts, I rarely ever bother posting on Google+, and I have yet to figure out Instagram (maybe because I just got a smart phone). FB is where I do most of my networking with other authors and promos for my books. I use Postplanner to schedule posts to FB and twitter, that way the pages look "active", and I've just started using slack social to post to FB groups. I'd say FB is still the most effective tool to reach the masses, but it can really depend on your audience. I know a friend who has had a lot of success on Instagram.
I do have a blog but it's primarily for book reviews and promos for other authors.

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I have a website, blog, Facebook, twitter, and Instagram, along with an author page on Amazon. I do get a lot of response to posts, especially pics & excerpts. Has it helped sales? I don't know.

18 (edited by corra 2017-09-15 12:28:07)

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Thank you so much for the input, everyone!

The impression I'm getting is that 1) a platform allows you an ability to connect with others in the industry 2) it provides you a platform to give back to the writing community (featuring authors and their books) 3) it's a place to post your own writing so it doesn't become lost in the sea of other books 4) it may or may not, however, translate into actual sales 5) it can potentially be extremely time-consuming.

I guess I'm wondering who the targeted audience is when you begin a social media platform? Readers of the genre you write in? People within the industry (which would make writing about writing as a blogger seem more relevant). Readers in general? If you write about writing, aren't you just writing to a bevy of fellow writers -- sending tips into the echo chamber? Wouldn't you want to speak to the people you intend your book for? (I ask not to criticize, but to understand how you view the platform's purpose.)

It seems like whatever site I write should showcase my natural voice, so people know the style they can find within my books. I like the idea of giving back to the community. I also like the idea of a fairly active site where I focus on quality over quantity. I feel that whatever a writer chooses as her medium in the social media world, it should act as a mirror to her prose voice. That way people can sense what they're getting if they read her books. And I do like Pinterest for a fun place to collect pretty pictures. smile

An acquaintance of mine has just released a novel retelling of Little Women. Her site focuses on questions surrounding Little Women -- essays, fun posts conjecturing about the characters, etc. She rarely mentions her novel. She just has it posted in her sidebar. However, I find her writing voice intelligent and interesting enough I quietly purchased her book. I met her because I am interested in the topic of Little Women and stumbled upon her site. I never would have heard of her novel. I found it because of her platform, which exudes her joy in the topic.

I'd love to find some sort of idea that couples well with what I want to write. I'm not sure I could focus as specifically as she does, since I wouldn't want to marry myself to a single era in history (example, American Civil War), but I love the way her site naturally reflects the topic of her book. People arrive there and find her novel a bonus naturally coupled with the topic that attracted them to her online writing in the first place.

Lots of questions to think about! Meanwhile, I'm not writing the good stuff! It doesn't sound like there's any real rush on getting this set up, so I think I'll back-burner it for a while. Keep my eyes open to an interesting idea.

Thanks again everyone! Keep sharing if you have tips and experience please.

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TirzahLaughs wrote:
corra wrote:

Thank you for those ideas and suggestions, Bunny. I haven't talked to you in a while. I hope you're well. xx

I'm functional.
smile

And still designing beautiful pictures, I imagine! And helping the animals of the world. x

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corra wrote:
TirzahLaughs wrote:
corra wrote:

Thank you for those ideas and suggestions, Bunny. I haven't talked to you in a while. I hope you're well. xx

I'm functional.
smile

And still designing beautiful pictures, I imagine! And helping the animals of the world. x

Actually, my creativity has been more or less dead for a while but the trade off is my emotional health is much better (due to better living through chemistry).   I've had about a year or so on the new meds---and I really am significantly less depressed.  Yeah me!  The trade off is that it makes it a little harder to stay focused--hence the problem with my creativity nosedive.   But as much as it hurts to find my writing limited, I am very happy to feel less unhappy all the time.

I am hoping, and trying really hard, to rekindle that creative spark without depressive background.  Fingers crossed.

I think once you find out what you love to talk about--whether that is truth, writing historically or  just 'A Writer on Writing', you'll attract readers as  you are well-written, well-researched and always up for a good conversation. 

Don't let social media own you---it is a tool but it is one that can get away from you.  It does attract new people though--who can 'sample' your writing. You have to be like the neighborhood crack dealer from the 1980's --first taste is free.    After that, you have to pay for the joy.  smile Hah.

Love ya bunny!

Be happy/

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I have a website - sherryvostroff.com - and I have an author page on FB at Sherry V. Ostroff. I created these when I published my first book 18 months ago. I did it on my own, and I wish the sites were better. I hope to redo when my next book is published.

I don't do any other media platforms. Between writing, reviewing, meeting with groups for presentations, signings, and life, I can barely fit one more thing into my schedule. And I'm retired.

But yes, a media platform is very important to get the word out.

Also, don't forget about getting the local newspapers to do a story or get interviewed at your local TV station.

Sherry

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corra wrote:

I guess I'm wondering who the targeted audience is when you begin a social media platform? Readers of the genre you write in? People within the industry (which would make writing about writing as a blogger seem more relevant). Readers in general? If you write about writing, aren't you just writing to a bevy of fellow writers -- sending tips into the echo chamber? Wouldn't you want to speak to the people you intend your book for? (I ask not to criticize, but to understand how you view the platform's purpose.)

I am trying not to target an audience. My platform's modus operandi is I stay in character.

I check the demographic charts sometimes. I wonder if more than 1% have read the story or they're along for the ride. I'm not promoting as much as creating new free content in a world of re-tweets.

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TirzahLaughs wrote:

I've had about a year or so on the new meds---and I really am significantly less depressed.  Yeah me!  The trade off is that it makes it a little harder to stay focused--hence the problem with my creativity nosedive.   But as much as it hurts to find my writing limited, I am very happy to feel less unhappy all the time.

I'm so glad to hear you're feeling happy, Bunny! I can hear it in your voice. A lilt. smile I agree: joy is the thing. With time, creativity will follow in some form -- possibly a new sort of creativity that pours naturally from your new perspective. Take it slow and feel well. That's the important thing. You're such a joy-spreader, you have a right to experience that joy yourself. I think it must follow that you'll find a way to share it. I'm sending you a big hug. x

I think once you find out what you love to talk about--whether that is truth, writing historically or  just 'A Writer on Writing', you'll attract readers as  you are well-written, well-researched and always up for a good conversation.

Thanks! I think you're right: it must be something that inspires me personally. I feel that I'm just out of reach of it. I can't quite figure out what it is, and I keep falling back on the idea of reviewing historical fiction.

I had a book review site for a while and loved it, but it became a distraction -- I put more time into it than I did my own writing. Because I found it extremely fun! But I had to reassess. If I started a new site like that, I'd want to slow WAY down on it. Maybe one review a month. That doesn't sound like a lot, but it would build an archive of some kind. That paired with Pinterest might be the answer? Possibly I could try to include a brief interview with the author!

I've also read that writing for online sites (like online papers) helps. (I have no idea if they'd have me.) Doing that and allowing my byline to point back to a static website might be the thing?

A couple years ago, I got the bright idea to write biographies / essays on composers and artists as I explored them. That idea didn't last long, but people responded well to it, to my surprise. I wondered why anyone would read my articles when I was only rehashing information readily available elsewhere. However, when I featured an artist, I also included a personal analysis of a few of the artist's pieces, references for further information on the topic, and a series of their quotations and novels inspired by their life, if some existed. Possibly it could be as simple as a site on history or historical figures: something compiled by me.  An anthology of sorts. People could sign up simply to see who or what I feature next?

Truth in fiction: you mean, like essays analyzing the way historical novelists cover real history? Or possibly just interesting bits I unearth in history? Or things I discover history has failed to remember at high volume? I love those ideas. I'm also liking the idea of "A Writer on Writing." Possibly a series of essays about the experience itself? I'd love to find a way to pair that with history somehow. Essays would seem more original a contribution than book reviews (but possibly not as fun, for I've already lined up three books to review, ha ha. I'd love the reviewing for getting me to read more in the genre!)

Or a combination of all this might be the answer. But I wouldn't want it to occupy a great deal of time. I'd want it to contribute to my goals, not overtake them. The truth is, ALL of the ideas above make me excited! As does my entire 1,300+ reading list of excellent BOOKS. My biggest obstacle is finding a way to preserve time for my actual fiction writing. I tend to dive head-first into new ideas and swim there fully immersed for ages before it occurs to me I'm not writing the good stuff. wink

Thanks for the advice, Bunny! I love you too. <3 xo

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Sherry V. Ostroff wrote:

I have a website - sherryvostroff.com - and I have an author page on FB at Sherry V. Ostroff. I created these when I published my first book 18 months ago. I did it on my own, and I wish the sites were better. I hope to redo when my next book is published.

I don't do any other media platforms. Between writing, reviewing, meeting with groups for presentations, signings, and life, I can barely fit one more thing into my schedule. And I'm retired.

But yes, a media platform is very important to get the word out.

Also, don't forget about getting the local newspapers to do a story or get interviewed at your local TV station.

Sherry

Hi Sherry! I think your website looks lovely. I'm a hash with code, so you've done far better than I could. Great compilation of information. It looks really professional. I've seen other authors recommend Wix for their website. I might take a peek. Thanks! smile

I understand on the "busy" front! I'm extremely busy offline too. I'm glad to know the static website and Facebook work for you. It seems a smart move -- to preserve your time for the actual novels. That might be the way I go in the end, too. I might test a few ideas just to see which feels right.

The local papers is a great tip! I've never even thought of that. Signings, groups -- that might be smarter than online promotion anyway. Pass out your card and send them to the site!

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kdot wrote:

I am trying not to target an audience.

Does your topic go along with your novels? If so, I like that approach. People who respect your voice and appreciate your perspective might read your books simply for the trust you've built. That sort of goes with what I was saying above about the novelist who writes a site on Little Women. I don't get a sense she is "selling" when she writes on her blog. Her target audience appears to be anyone who is interested in the topic.

(Although, I guess we could say that means her target audience is those who'd read her book. That's the best audience for this sort of thing, I'm thinking.)