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Topic: Writing Advice: Realism and Ikea instructions

From the Mad Genius Club: https://madgeniusclub.com/2017/08/07/unreality/

Feel free to skip to the part beginning "And yet… if we’re talking fantasy-worlds with horses and knights and whatever… "  There are a couple of good topics here.  VERY good topics.

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Another amazing MGC post: https://madgeniusclub.com/2014/06/04/th … -the-book/

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Good points.

Most of life isn't worth mentioning, including detailed descriptions of clothing, hairstyles and footwear we see in so many current works. Who cares? We can assume the character will wear something else the next day. Do we have to read a detailed description every time somebody changes clothes? If it's not relevant to the story, skip it.

What was my other point? Oh yes--

Sex scenes wherein bodily sounds are exalted are just plain dumb. Has the writer nothing better to say? By the way, where is it written that the man always grunts, swears and claims his partner as "mine?" And by what decree was it mandated that the woman begs for more and says "please?" Better to give the pair their privacy.

If the readers want more, let them use their imaginations.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Cheers.  JP

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Love ya, Anne! It's all about the differences!

5 (edited by Rachel (Rhiannon) Parsons 2017-08-09 01:47:24)

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j.p., there are men who don't  grunt, swear and claims his partner as mine?  As far as clothing, there's a happy medium, and in fantasy, you have to go in detail, at least the first time, as people want to know--what are they wearing?  i sometimes just say a golden kirtle or a purple jerkin.  But you can fail to mention clothing too.  Kathy Reichs had an inadvertently hilarious scene when she had Tempe strip, go to bed nude, get up the next morning, realize that something was wrong, called the CSI's, and stood around as they checked.  She had gone to bed the night before nude, right?  No mention of her putting on clothes, so I imagined a scene where's she standing around naked, chatting with her colleagues while the investigation was going on. A simple, "I threw on my house robe" would have done, but then, I wouldn't have chuckled for half a day after reading that scene.

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LOL! As I said, if it's relevant to the story, by all means, use it! It becomes important to talk about clothing in period pieces. How can the average reader visualize period clothing without knowing how people dressed? The same goes for fantasy and sci fi.

If the action requires a character to be dressed after a nude scene, then it makes sense for the author to mention that the character has put on some clothes.

My complaint is with detailed descriptions of style, color, fabric, even the designer, etc. It becomes tiresome for the reader to wade through the details of all the characters' outfits when they dress up to go out dancing. But if Cinderella's going to lose a shoe, then it's a good idea to mention the shoe. It's relevant.

I have a sneaking suspicion the trend was started by writers who didn't have a lot of story, so they used the fashion details to pad their manuscripts.

As for the second point--ain't nothing wrong with a little sexy talk. But does everybody have to use the same dominant/subserviant conversation? A little originality, please!

We may never write in the same style, but it's still nice talking to you, Rachel.  JP