Topic: Site navigation
Do people have trouble navigating the site? Is it confusing? I may blow up the whole navigation but before I do I wanted to get your feedback.
Thanks,
Sol
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Do people have trouble navigating the site? Is it confusing? I may blow up the whole navigation but before I do I wanted to get your feedback.
Thanks,
Sol
Navigation is pretty intuitive and easy, IMO. A smartphone/iPad/iPhone App would be nice, but not essential.
I find the navigation quite intuitive. Perhaps the only improvement required is when you start an in-line review and you leave it open. To access the review in progress you have to go to "In line review replies", which is not very intuitive. I mean, why going to the "replies" section if you're looking for a review which is still a draft? It's not like the author would have already replied, is it?
Kiss,
Gacela
I find the interface generally easy to use and logical. I went through it briefly tonight and following are a few areas that could be more convenient:
- It takes a lot of scrolling on the home page to get to those "lists" that I'm interested in. I know you want maximum exposure for all work on the site, but I rarely stop to read an essay or poem. My interest is in new books/chapters and new work from my connections. If there were some way to minimize the others (varies by user), that would be a breath of fresh air. It's even worse on my smartphone, since I have to swipe my way close to the bottom to get at my groups' forum posts.
- The search icon on main screen (the magnifying glass) should include the ability to do a quick search in all forum posts (in addition to search for writer and search for works). That feature is currently too well hidden.
- The detailed search deserves to be more visible, too. That thing is a gem. I think it would eliminate some of the gripes about forum structure if you can easily find an old post by keywords. The detailed search could use tweaking as well. The list of groups to search should be sorted alphabetically and there should be a control that selects "all of my groups" in the list with one click.
- Ideally, it would be nice if the quick search and detailed search could treat the words in the search field as individual keywords, rather than treating the whole field as a single string. Sometimes you can remember a few keywords of an old post, but not the exact string. If someone wants a single string, they can put them in quotes.
- My Reviews screen should default to Inline Received instead of Regular Received. I think most would agree.
Hope this helps.
Dirk
This is an area where the de'il is in the details--and sometimes in the concept. Examples:
For detail: When I'm on a view page for one of my chapters, if I click the main edit for that work (and not the chapter edit -- and they are not well marked) I go to a page-sequence-navigation beginning with the master info for the work. I have to click twice through the sequence to get to content.
But once the work is created, even if I go to the master edit area for the work, I'm more likely to want a chapter than the master info. That suggests that the 'content' page should be where I get, and the whole-work info should appear there, as entries above the chapters. The notion of a 'work sequence' is just the wrong model here.
For concept: Why is it necessary to have inline and regular reviews on different pages? Why can't they appear together, with indicators of which type of review each is?
On the mobile interface: There is a certain logic in putting the sidebar at the bottom of the mobile 'page'--but that sidebar includes the groups/forums. I'd prefer that near the top, with the other sidebar stuff left at the bottom.
I've suggested before that on the forum pages 'edit' and 'quote' should be on one side, and 'report' and 'delete' be on the other--the sheep separated from the goats.
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- The detailed search deserves to be more visible, too. That thing is a gem. I think it would eliminate some of the gripes about forum structure if you can easily find an old post by keywords. The detailed search could use tweaking as well. The list of groups to search should be sorted alphabetically and there should be a control that selects "all of my groups" in the list with one click.
- Ideally, it would be nice if the quick search and detailed search could treat the words in the search field as individual keywords, rather than treating the whole field as a single string. Sometimes you can remember a few keywords of an old post, but not the exact string. If someone wants a single string, they can put them in quotes.
Ideally, REGEX or even approximate word-matching (so that 'abolitionist' also matches 'abolitionism' (but not 'abiogenicist')). That latter requires deep and broad knowledge of the English lexicon and is probably best left to Google. But REGEX in its many variations is A Solved Problem. The only problems are which variant to use and whether to fold case. (The answer to the latter is Probably Yes.)
Been a while since I used (n)awk.
Do people have trouble navigating the site? Is it confusing? I may blow up the whole navigation but before I do I wanted to get your feedback.
Thanks,
Sol
To reach navigation from the name button at most right top (Portfolio ... Logout) on a Tablet, MS not Apple, (that is: by touching rather than clicking) is almost impossible. Once you touch the button and get the menu then reach to touch the next item, they all disappear. If you use two fingers very quickly, it can be done after a few tries.
I find navigation all right. Only I would change the rule of connecting with people. I mean notify your intentions window. I think it is not really necessary. Otherwise, it works well.
This is an area where the de'il is in the details--and sometimes in the concept. Examples:
For detail: When I'm on a view page for one of my chapters, if I click the main edit for that work (and not the chapter edit -- and they are not well marked) I go to a page-sequence-navigation beginning with the master info for the work. I have to click twice through the sequence to get to content.
But once the work is created, even if I go to the master edit area for the work, I'm more likely to want a chapter than the master info. That suggests that the 'content' page should be where I get, and the whole-work info should appear there, as entries above the chapters. The notion of a 'work sequence' is just the wrong model here.
For concept: Why is it necessary to have inline and regular reviews on different pages? Why can't they appear together, with indicators of which type of review each is?
On the mobile interface: There is a certain logic in putting the sidebar at the bottom of the mobile 'page'--but that sidebar includes the groups/forums. I'd prefer that near the top, with the other sidebar stuff left at the bottom.
I've suggested before that on the forum pages 'edit' and 'quote' should be on one side, and 'report' and 'delete' be on the other--the sheep separated from the goats.
Everything NJC said. In general, I have no issues navigating around.
I’d like to see you retool the navigation mainly in the portfolio section. I realize some of the choices made were because you were tailoring the site to be viewed on several platform types, but as is, it’s highly click laden, backwards unreliable and often redundant.
1) For instance, want to edit something? Click portfolio>scroll the list >click the desired title >choose the desired action>scroll a second list >choose the dropdown action—success at last!
And if you make a mistake on that edit, clicking the edit function from WITHIN the view pane doesn’t accelerate the process (as one would reasonably assume), it takes you back out to the master edit pane which forces you to click through all the above navigation again.
Also, because of the compartmentalizing of all the available actions, each time you want to change something on a piece of work, you have to deal with navigating in and out of each subcategory via the master edit pane.
I’d like to see this entire process streamlined for efficiency.
2) Another thing, as others have mentioned, is I’d also like to see review types combined. It’s cumbersome and click laden to have to go through two separate lists. Also, the Filter feature doesn’t work if you wish to combine reviews: I. E. If I want ALL reviews on chapter 1 of X project, I can’t unless I leave the review section and go into VIEW mode on X project (where the styled reviews are clumped).
3) The filter option of the review section also has navigation bugs. For instance, if I am in a filtered review, I cannot use the back navigation on my browser to choose another review from the filtered list because doing so kicks you off the site entirely.
What I’d like to see when you navigate into the review section is either a drop down of all your works to choose from, or book covers of all your reviewed work so you can simply choose the work and see all reviews according to chapter.
4) Would still love to see you offer a static forum style for group forums. For all the reasons we’ve discussed publically and privately, but also because it would do away with the need for moderators to keep bumping important threads.
5) I would love get customizable features on my account homepage. It’s not a huge deal to keep having to scroll past stuff on a daily basis, but it would be nice to have a choice of what predominately populates my page—along with drop down choices so I can see that other stuff when desired.
4) Would still love to see you offer a static forum style for group forums. For all the reasons we’ve discussed publically and privately, but also because it would do away with the need for moderators to keep bumping important threads.
What does this mean? 'static forum style' and 'bumping threads' ?
One of the most click-intensive features is the pop-up text boxes when doing an inline review. It would be great if the cursor was inside the box without the extra click.
For the most part, I have no trouble. Agree with Norm about the cursor in the inline review though. But I've gotten so used to the site, I'd probably still click twice
Yeah, that nit becomes a burr under the butt put in the chair preparatory to writing or reviewing.
Consider the 'action' menu button in the portfolio page. The selections are
Add Chapter
View
Edit
Publish Setup
Invite to Read
Delete
By far the most common selections will be View and Edit. Add Chapter and Delete may be regarded as sub-actions under Edit. Publish Setup is also an edit-type operation, and ought to be represented there.
Only Invite to Read falls outside of View and Edit.
So why not put three buttons per row: View, Invite to Read, and Edit? (Instead of the menu button, which hides further steps as surely as a new web page does.) The master edit page for the work can list the chapters, provide the options for Add Chapter, Delete, and Publish Setup (Setup for Publication?)
Drop-down menus are a problem on certain non-PC devices. There must always be a way to work without using them. If you look at the better e-commerce sites (try mouser.com and digikey.com, both of which are designed for frequent users, and newegg.com, which is designed for everybody) you will see that if you click-hold or double-click on the 'links' that bring up menus, you'll be taken to a link-farm page carrying the same links as the menu.
This is a bit late, but it's a data point. The scrolling chapter menus do not work properly on my old-new smartphone (no scroll, and they don't start you with the current page in the middle, which would allow you to inch your way along). The dropdown menu on the Girl Genius comic.php page (below the current story page image) do work correctly on the smartphone.
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