Topic: Confusion with active/inactive pieces in my portfolio

On the old tNBW site (which I came to know quite well), the writing member acquired points that were used for ‘publishing’ work on the site.
Once published, the articles/chapters/stories/poems could be made ‘live’ or’ disabled’ or active/inactive at will (i.e. at the cost of no further points.)

Although I reviewed and reviewed and acquired points and paid those points to publish pieces of writing… I find that here on the new site I have to pay again to make my pre-published content live or active as it now called.

A colossal amount of reviewing is called for in order to accumulate enough points to activate the work I’d already completed a colossal amount of reviewing in order to accumulate enough to publish in the first place?

36.03 points to reactivate my previously published few chapters an unfinished novel?

With most pieces paying  nought point something for a review  it’s a mammoth task to regain enough point to liven up my pre-published work.

And before I get hammered by sanctimonious skim-readers… I have absolutely no problems reviewing to gain points to publish new work. I just don’t feel it fair to have to pay twice, or thrice to re-enable work that is already published and paid for.

I'd like to pick up my 'published on tNBW' novel, six chapters in, where I left it is all.

B.T.W By ‘published’ I mean ‘posted’ here on tHNW not published in any commercial sense of the word.

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Some reviews don't get you points at all.
Others get you a limited amount of points.   I find I have to review 6 to 10 pieces to post a chapter...which I do find annoying but I figured I might just be doing it wrong.

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TirzahLaughs wrote:

Some reviews don't get you points at all.
Others get you a limited amount of points.   I find I have to review 6 to 10 pieces to post a chapter...which I do find annoying but I figured I might just be doing it wrong.

Nah, that ratio has always been pretty bad...you aren't doing it wrong smile

I totally agree with Dill. I've had to leave some pieces deactivated because I refuse to pay for them again--I already paid a hefty price the first time. Is there something we're missing? A way to reactive a piece without paying for it again?

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TirzahLaughs wrote:

Some reviews don't get you points at all.
Others get you a limited amount of points.   I find I have to review 6 to 10 pieces to post a chapter...which I do find annoying but I figured I might just be doing it wrong.

Thanks Tirzabelle! I don't mind working for points to post new work. although 6 or 10 to one is a bit steep. Didnt used to be about 4 reviews to 1 published?

I do mind having to earn further points to make that published work active/inactive

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5 Reply by vern (edited by vern 2015-08-25 23:24:59)

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You should not have to pay points to activate previous work from the old site. All my work transferred and as far as I can tell is active or inactive as it was on the old site. I have activated and deactivated all the chapters of my novel more than once on this site (except for the first three chapters which have always been active) and it has not cost any points to activate those once inactive chapters. I would check with Sol about a possible glitch and get those points back if you used any for that purpose. Good luck. Take care. Vern

PS: Edited only to add "more than once" to text.

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Some writers use a lot of words, even though their pieces read very smoothly and swiftly.  Others write prose with few words that nonetheless seems very busy.

Word count is an imperfect measure, but it may be the best we have.  If your writing takes a lot of points to post, it should give your reviewers a relative lot of points, and so should be more attractive to them.

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Although I reviewed and reviewed and acquired points and paid those points to publish pieces of writing… I find that here on the new site I have to pay again to make my pre-published content live or active as it now called.

Content on the new site transferred in the exact state that it existed on the old site. If content was published but inactive on the old site, it transferred that way here. Then, all that needed to be done is reactivate it without paying points.

If content was uploaded but not published on the old site, it exists in the same state on the new site.

If you come across an example where this is not the case, let me know and I will investigate. No one should have to pay double points.

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Note: If your membership expired, you will go down to one group. You may have your work ejected from the premium group and have to buy your way back in

This has been changed. Once work is published you will never need to pay again, even if you join other points groups, leave a point group and rejoin, etc.

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Thanks Tirzabelle! I don't mind working for points to post new work. although 6 or 10 to one is a bit steep. Didnt used to be about 4 reviews to 1 published?

The ratio is pretty much 4 to 1. If you review work from new writers, it pays a bonus and the ratio is even less. In no case is it even close to 10 to 1.

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SolN wrote:

If content was uploaded but not published on the old site, it exists in the same state on the new site.

If you come across an example where this is not the case, let me know and I will investigate. No one should have to pay double points.

Thanks Sol

I have a Novel in my portfolio called 'Eat my Shorts!' that has 7 chapters and was Published/disabled on the old site at the time of transition.

I can actually make the work 'active' - However the site tells me that 30 points are required if I want to add that published/active work to a group.

As far as I can tell, if the work is not added to a group, then although active it appears to be in some kind of limbo state... only I can see it?

I want to add it to the TheNextBigWriter Premium group.

The same condition exists for all my old pre-published work. It is 'active' (or can be made so) but to add it to a group costs points.

Cheers!

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SolN wrote:

Note: If your membership expired, you will go down to one group. You may have your work ejected from the premium group and have to buy your way back in

This has been changed. Once work is published you will never need to pay again, even if you join other points groups, leave a point group and rejoin, etc.

My work seems to have retained that very symptom. Could it have pre-dated the change?

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12 Reply by Dill Carver (edited by Dill Carver 2015-09-03 11:27:58)

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SolN wrote:

Content on the new site transferred in the exact state that it existed on the old site. If content was published but inactive on the old site, it transferred that way here. Then, all that needed to be done is reactivate it without paying points.

If content was uploaded but not published on the old site, it exists in the same state on the new site.

If you come across an example where this is not the case, let me know and I will investigate. No one should have to pay double points.

Hi Sol

On the old site there was no 'group containers'.It seems that I CAN re-publish my old-site published works to the 'thenextbigwriter BASIC group' on this site; but if I want to re-publish it to the 'thenextbigwriter Premium group' then I am required to pay points again in order to do so. Does the 'No one should have to pay double points' statement only apply to the re-publishing of pre-published work to the Basic Group?

Cheers!

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Does the 'No one should have to pay double points' statement only apply to the re-publishing of pre-published work to the Basic Group?

If you already paid points on the old site then no matter the state of the content (active or inactive) you should not have to pay points again to publish it to any group. If you are finding that not to be the case, please give me the name of the content and I will have it checked out.

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