Topic: Potential Membership Change

Hi all,

I wanted to get your opinion on something. The old site only allowed members to post once they had become premium members. There was no trial. Users were able to get a feel for the site by logging in as a free reviewer. I'm thinking of reverting to that model. Why? Because many new members come to kick the tires, get a bunch of reviews as a trial member, and then take off. I don't feel like this is fair to all of you and the community. Plus, I happen to believe that once people pay money, they are more motivated to put the time and effort into becoming part of the site.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Sol

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Apparently the older model worked well enough, so I see no issue going back to it

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SolN wrote:

Hi all,

Because many new members come to kick the tires, get a bunch of reviews as a trial member, and then take off. I don't feel like this is fair to all of you and the community. Plus, I happen to believe that once people pay money, they are more motivated to put the time and effort into becoming part of the site.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Sol

Agreed. People are motivated by money.
George FLC

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I personally loved the way the OLD site worked better than the way this one works. For those who weren't here when the old site was in its glory days, you could come in as a reviewer and make as many reviews as you wanted to. Sol, I can't remember if those reviews carried points in case the reviewer wanted to join later, or if they received nothing but the pleasure of seeing their review written. But what I also liked about the old site is that a paying member could not proceed with posting a chapter or reviewing a chapter until they answered the reviews they had received. If you recall, the recipient of the reviews had an opportunity to rate their reviewers on whether or not the review was helpful, yada yada.

To answer your question above, I think it would be wonderful to return to the requirement of being a premium member in order to post. We have so many who come on board, post a chapter, and then disappear without a trace after we reviewers have spent an hour doing an in-line review that will never go anywhere. I am almost skeptical today about doing a review of a newbie's work for that very reason. I don't need accolades for my review, and the writer doesn't even have to like it, but what I do need is at least an acknowledgment that my review has been seen. That makes me want to review their next chapter, if they happen to post one. Someone recently complained they were not receiving reviews on their chapters, but in looking back, I think it's because the reviews the writer received on the first chapter were not acknowledged, so no one felt the need to review the second chapter. I think this method filters those who are serious from those who are not.  I vote yes because I feel that if they pay to join,  they will be a serious addition to our team and will post more chapters.

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The old way was very good. I was only a guest for about three days when I sprung for the fee. Since then, a lot of water has passed under the bridge and now I'm starting another novel for review.

Bill

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I think it's a great idea, Sol. Many of us have wasted oodles of time reviewing people who don't stay.

It would also be great, as Marilyn noted, if they had to reply to their reviews before they could post more.

Thanks
Dirk

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Having to pay up front might also dis ourage the ad-spammers.

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So, Sol, would there still be trial members who gain temporary access to premium membership? And would they be allowed to post anything at all before being required to pay?

Keep in mind, we've been having a lot of trouble getting trial members to convert to permanent membership for a long time, even with the ability to post during the trial.

Would it be worth offering a discount for the first three months of membership or even the whole first year?

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Users would not be able to post until they becoming a paying member. I actually don't think the trial works that well. I'd rather have people explore the site a a free member (who cannot post) and then when they are ready, upgrade and publish their work. That was the old site model and it seemed to work better.

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SolN wrote:

Users would not be able to post until they becoming a paying member. I actually don't think the trial works that well. I'd rather have people explore the site a a free member (who cannot post) and then when they are ready, upgrade and publish their work. That was the old site model and it seemed to work better.

I agree.

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SolN wrote:

Users would not be able to post until they becoming a paying member. I actually don't think the trial works that well. I'd rather have people explore the site a a free member (who cannot post) and then when they are ready, upgrade and publish their work. That was the old site model and it seemed to work better.

I totally agree. If they spend their money for a membership, they will most likely hang around long enough to read their reviews and write another chapter. Thank you, Sol. This will help weed out the ones who don't give the site a chance to work for them because they post, expect instant responses, and then disappear into the night.

MJ

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I have benefitted greatly by joining this site back in 2008. As we all know, getting family and friends to read our work is akin to pulling teeth, but the benefits go far beyond recognition. For me, I have learned more from reviewing and being reviewed than from any books on writing.
A few of you surely remember sarah-scotti. When I began posting A Gypsy Among Gypsies, she took me under her wing and helped me more than words can tell. Her encouragement was one of her many strong suits. Even when I wrote a flashback within a flashback, she patiently pointed out the problem, aka lameness, with that style of writing.

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Nathan B. Childs wrote:
SolN wrote:

Users would not be able to post until they becoming a paying member. I actually don't think the trial works that well. I'd rather have people explore the site a a free member (who cannot post) and then when they are ready, upgrade and publish their work. That was the old site model and it seemed to work better.

I agree.

Ditto.