Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

You're right about the caps crap when it comes to earth. Expressions that mention earth are lowercase, otherwise caps. Same goes for heaven and hell. Go to hell is lowercase, whereas Satan lives in Hell. I was fortunate this time around because I use frequent Bible quotes that have to be quoted exactly as found in the Bible, right down to the punctuation. As a result, I'm forced to always write earth, heaven, and hell for consistency with the quotes. Most Bibles use lowercase, including the NRSVCE that I use. Pronouns related to God (he, him, etc.) are also lowercase.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

I'm getting close to the end of Chapterhouse and read a few reviews of Sandworms of Dune on Goodreads. Reviewers really trashed that book. My favorite review began with What the hell was that? The reviews included enough details to remind me of the final two books. I think I own one of them on Kindle, but I seriously doubt I'll read either.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Well, this is stupid. Chapterhouse spent a whole book building up the threat of the Honored Matres and, in particular, the Great Honored Matre (aka Spider Queen) only to have her aide kill her with a simple poison in her drink. Did somebody forget about the existence of poison snoopers, a technology that had been around for thousands of years? Not even an exotic poison from the Scattering that advanced Ixian snoopers might not recognize.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

No worries... it's deep enough into the series that only die hard fans will be reading it. I've noticed this with modern Star Wars fans. They just don't care about the continuum.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

--er don't care is not the right word... "accept its flaws"?

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Found a fix re the blind cardinal not being healed. He declines healing, saying that his blindness is a blessing from God that has given him a greater ability to commune with the Holy Spirit. Some shit like that. I'll call that a Hail Mary. :-)

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Works.

Another option is Connor heals everyone with the same action. I think this has weak new testament precedent though

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o dear

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Yup. Desktop version of Amazon also autocorrects your name. There's a small link at the top of the results page that takes you to the proper set of results (the ones I actually asked for), but it's easily missed, especially because their screens are so busy.

You're screwed.
Dirk

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Not really screwed. If you browse my catalogue, you'll discover I only put my name on about half my covers. Part of a plan to stay at the sidelines

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

I'm a little concerned that too much violence is creeping back into my story in chapters 14 and 15. I considered adding holy water squirt guns to the Nerf-style rifles mentioned in chapter 12, but that's too silly. A better approach is bullets loaded with holy water. The holy water releases as the bullet disintegrates. That also eliminates the need for the toy rifles. Just use holy water ammo. That way, instead of having prolonged shoutouts with demons, they only need to be shot a "few" times with holy bullets, and the holy water causes them to disintegrate as happened to the chief exorcist that Connor splashed with holy water in chapter 11. No muss, no fuss, no dry cleaning. Tension can be maintained by focusing on what the demons do after they're separated from their bodies (e.g., the spooks try to possess the living, who wear crosses and say prayers to protect themselves).

Naturally, there is still other violence in the story that can't go away, such as the crucifixions and
the stabbing of Connor with the demonic dagger. My goal is to dial down the violence. Also, after the first few demons dissolve in chapters four and six, I won't mention the 'mass of tissue and bodily fluids' anymore. I'll just say they dissolved.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

That reminds me, you have a post above from 10-29 with my name and character name together. Would you be willing to nix it?
I'm not super worried about the Google-monster, but ever vigilant

Ok as to your question, I had asked before if your target market was reading Dan Brown, and you indicated you were going for a more moderate crowd, but I still don't have a solid idea who your reader is. I recogniize I've been desensitized to violence because I just read about a young boy being stabbed and didn't bat an eye. Granted this problem, I understand how escalating violence could be an issue.

More food for thought: Project L is not a good fit for this site because we don't have tons of Twilight fans here. That's perfectly fine; I filter comments with this in mind. You may be stuck in this situation too. This will take some work to overcome... you'll need to build a platform where your market is. You'll need one anyway, when it's time to release. Honestly, the time to start building is now.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

I deleted a bunch of posts that referred to your and your characters.

My target audience is Catholics, other Christians, and thriller readers, roughly in that order. I'm trying to minimize gratuitous violence, except for the crucifixions. Even there, I don't show the actual suffering, just the dead body. As for the stabbing, point taken. It may be too violent. I'll have to decide after I've written the first draft. It is an End Times novel, though, so suffering is unavoidable. One example is the two "locals" in the prologue, who are stung repeatedly by demonic locusts from Revelation. I'm happy I added the demons-with-bodies to the story to minimize human-to-human violence, but the shootouts were getting to be too much. Admittedly, I'm not sure if shooting a demon three times with holy water bullets is going to come across as less violent than the shootouts. Demons hit with holy water bullets will disintegrate to nothing, like the chief exorcist did. Demons dissolving into a mass of tissue and bodily fluids will only happen a couple of times until the cops have holy water bullets in chapter 12. Folks on my Catholic forum have told me, if violence is needed in the story, don't take two pages describing it in detail. Angels & Demons is a good inspiration for its Catholic/thriller elements, but the killer blows away cops at every turn, which I don't want. Human cops may be injured in my book but will not die since demons can't aim any better than stormtroopers.

I will eventually post the story on the other review site since it has active Catholic authors. That won't happen until I've written and edited the second draft. Hopefully the feedback won't require a full third draft. In the meantime, Clairedeplume has been providing me with Catholic feedback.

As for a platform, I'm many years away from publishing the first novel and don't want to spend time building an online presence until I'm closer to finishing the book. I may try for a Christian publisher, but there aren't many of them, so I'll probably self-publish.

I think that covers it.

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My target audience is Catholic thriller readers

Q: Does Clairedeplume satisfy both conditions? (Catholic and thriller-reader)

Also, do you have a band within that spectrum? For example age strata or maturity within the available content?

For example, Project L is targeting "Vampire/Werewolf fans" but within that wide discipline, I'm chasing the market of Twilight fans who love/loved it but have grown tired of the genre. My target market is between ages 35-55 (Hence why I put the story in the 90s). I assume 75% female readership, so I conform to their needs (for example, I've read that my market is fed up with OW/cheating stories within the genre)

Ok, so for yours...

Q: are you writing to the catholic who will watch a violent Rambo movie and thinks Dan Brown is mild?

Q: if there is an ecstatic review in some blog or column, how old is that blogger? (This question is probably more important than it first seems)

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

I doubt Claire is a regular thriller reader, but I could be wrong. She's also not Catholic, but knows Catholicism from her younger days. She's definitely provided some good Catholic feedback.

As for the age range, it's probably not too different than non-Christians, roughly fourteen and up, provided I keep the violence under control. I have one advantage and disadvantage compared to Dan Brown. The advantage is that there is no fictional telling of the End Times from a Catholic perspective, except a book written over one hundred years ago. Many younger Catholics read the Left Behind series and think it's Catholic, which it definitely isn't. Interestingly, Pope Francis recommended the century-old book. It's called Lord of the World. The similarity to my series title is a coincidence, but it will help me on Amazon and other sites given the matching algorithms they use.

The "disadvantage" I have compared to Dan Brown is my book is much more religious than his, with more everyday Catholic elements, including a lot of praying. I had Connor pray silently for the dying cardinal, but I plan to go back and verbalize that, as that is more likely in a setting of so many religious characters in the room. They would want to join in. Those are probably a turnoff to secular readers, but I prefer it that way. One element to the story that will annoy serious Catholics is that I have a gay priest running an orphanage of boys, and the most senior cardinal in the Vatican allows it to continue. I have other elements that some Catholics won't like, such as God the Father accepting a new challenge from Satan that is winner-take-all. Also, the idea that Jesus will return as a boy. Those are not supported by Revelation, even though I found wiggle room in Acts 1 for the latter.

I didn't look for reviews before deciding on a largely Catholic story, but, now that you mention it, I'll look up reviews for Lord of the World. It's very different from my book, but avoids almost all violence and suffering. Basically, it skipped most of what's in Revelation. Fortunately, as I found in my research of Revelation study guides, Catholicism leaves it very open to interpretation, so I have a lot of room to maneuver.

EDIT: The reviews for Lord of the World were all over the place. Some loved it. Others thought it was awful.

Although I'm more than happy to have Rambo fans read the story, I'm definitely not worried about attracting them. If I was, I wouldn't be worried about the violence, and I would strip the prayers.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Star Wars 9.1 is up under short stories. Similar concept to my Dune story. I totally mess with canon but also explain why no one in the galaxy knows about it.

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I actually haven't seen 9. Gave up on the franchise. Rogue One had a pleasant ending, but that's been the only one I liked in the past 21 years.  Time to cut my losses lol

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Episode 9 was a decent wrap-up for the saga given the fact that they didn't follow a story arc for the last three films. It's asinine that they would do that with a multibillion dollar franchise. The best part about 9 is that Emperor Palpatine was back (as a clone). That was an asspull. The worst part was when Lando takes off to round up enough ships to take on the Emperor's massive new fleet. He comes back in no time at all with hundreds of ships, easily ten times the size of the fleet that attacked at Endor. People in the audience burst out laughing it was so bad. At least they retconned all the s--t that went wrong in episode 8. Not to be outdone, my story retcons the original trilogy. :-)

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Palpatine being back is actually consistent with the books, believe it or not. In Episode 3 they mention some Jedi/Sith can cheat death and he reasons that caving himself cloned is a decent backup plan for the unexpected ( But cloning Darth Vader is not ). Ironically, the books did the clone wars worse than the movies which kind of treaded lightly

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

After 45 years I finally looked up what a moisture farm is. It never occurred to me that it's exactly what the name suggests - farming for moisture. I know Frank Herbert complained about how much Star Wars ripped off Dune, but moisture farms are pretty blatant.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

A star wars staple (even in the books) is a desert world, which is pretty much impossible in a star-faring society.

Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars colonization series even nods to this because they take ice comets and do low orbit runs for like 20 years to build the planet's water reserves. It costs pennies to deflect a comet if you have broken the fossil fuel barrier. So ya, I can see Herbert's point-- at least he had a purpose for the desert world

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Kdot, I'm trying make my use of paragraphs more consistent. Below are two examples that I handled differently and I'm wondering which is more correct.

In the following, I describe actions performed by both Romano and Nnamani, then place their subsequent dialogue in separate paragraphs.

Romano and Nnamani summarized for the council the many supernatural events that had manifested around Connor, including his growing powers and the attacks against him.
Nnamani said, “I have no doubt God is working through Connor.”
“I agree,” Romano said.

Below, both men look at each other, then Nnamani speaks (Romano does not).

Romano and Nnamani looked at each other in alarm. “Explain that!” Nnamani said.

For consistency, I'm inclined to move Nnamani's dialogue into a separate paragraph.

Thoughts?

Thanks
Dirk

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Rented Star Wars 9 to watch on my new TV. Now that the nostalgia has worn off, I realize it is a horrible film. Half the film was about Rey and her friends racing from place to place trying to find the way to Exegol, the Emperor's hidden planet. I had mental whiplash given how much hopping around they were doing. They eventually stumble upon a Sith blade that leads them to Endor, where Rey uses the blade to home in on a specific part of the wreckage of the second Death Star lying in the ocean. That leads her to Palpatine's wrecked throne room, where a side room hides one of only two wayfinders leading to Exegol. Kylo Ren somehow found the other. The room with the wayfinder was designed to display it, meaning Palpatine must have placed it there decades earlier in case someone wanted to find Exegol. But why would Palpatine need a wayfinder to Exegol given that he boasted in ROTJ that the rebellion would be crushed at Endor and Luke would fall to the dark side? And who designed the Sith blade that magically points Rey at the right part of the wreckage?

All the plot holes in Gilligan's Island can't hold a candle to the crap in that film.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

You went to all that effort?  I didn't think it worth the effort to chase down all the plot gaps.  Or gasps

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Those are just the plot holes I noticed this time around. The worst plot holes were immediately obvious in the theater. In ep. 8, Leia sent a distress signal to the rest of the galaxy and absolutely nobody came. This time, Lando leaves for a few hours and returns with the largest "rebel" fleet ever seen, easily ten times the one that attacked the second Death Star. And let's not forget that Palpatine has been building/hiding the most massive "imperial" fleet ever (of course). Each ship is so advanced that it can destroy a planet, and all of them are hiding in the cloudy atmosphere at Exogol. However, these super-advanced ships apparently can only go "up" into space with the help of a navigation station/satellite, of which there is exactly one for the whole fleet. Ack.

Rotten Tomatoes gives the film 50%, which is incredibly generous. Anakin pouring his heart out to Padme in ep. 2 was less painful to watch. They all should have stopped after the original trilogy.