Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.
I renamed Cardinal Aristotele Gallo, the Vatican Secretary of State, to Cardinal Akachi Nnamani, a black man from Africa. Too many Italian names in the story. Akachi means God's hand.
Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi → The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.
I renamed Cardinal Aristotele Gallo, the Vatican Secretary of State, to Cardinal Akachi Nnamani, a black man from Africa. Too many Italian names in the story. Akachi means God's hand.
Yikes! Someone on my Catholic forum quoted a Christian definition of atonement which states that Christ atoned for the sins of all humanity. That almost broke my trilogy. If there's no one left to redeem, then my ending wouldn't have worked. Fortunately, someone else clarified that it was only the righteous who were redeemed.
Thank goodness for sinners.
Dirk
Yikes! Someone on my Catholic forum quoted a Christian definition of atonement which states that Christ atoned for the sins of all humanity. That almost broke my trilogy. If there's no one left to redeem, then my ending wouldn't have worked. Fortunately, someone else clarified that it was only the righteous who were redeemed.
Thank goodness for sinners.
Dirk
Is this the group that has you questioning the deaths / market?
Yes, although they're not pushing for it. It's my choice. Very few of them know I'm writing novels about the End Times.
Kdot, what's your opinion of my supernatural entity being able to change shape at will between demonic fog, the dark figure with glowing red eyes, human, and one other yet to be revealed? Basically he's a shape shifter and can take on whatever form he wishes. I plan to limit it to about four different forms, one of which doesn't appear until the end of the book.
Thoughts?
I'd only been suggesting a little danger so we know the church is not this impregnable bastion of goodness and light. Not sure you need a triple changer, but I'm willing to ride it out and give a better informed opinion once I see where you land
I think I've finally got it. All the deaths are suicide by various means caused by sheer terror at the prospect of going to hell. They came to believe that Satan was coming for their souls and that suicide would save them from that. Everything from poisoning, hanging, jumping off a bridge, etc. A little gruesome, but there will only be a total of six deaths. Maybe the first one simply kneeling in prayer, who died from actual terror without having to commit suicide. The centuries-old secret conspiracy then is a bunch of unexplained suicides of senior clerics, which of course is a ticket to hell unless you have a good excuse (e.g., fear of suffering). I like the circular reasoning of this.
I can die happily now. I think I'll go bury myself.
Dirk
Yours is a complicated world
Plans within plans.
I decided that my six suicides will not be obviously supernatural at first. I want the detectives to come to that realization slowly, even though the reader knows from the book's description that the Antichrist is stalking Connor and the Church. I found a cool Satanic symbol online that is actually an old Colgate-Palmolive logo. I'm thinking each victim has a ring on with that logo instead of a traditional cardinal's or bishop's ring. Rolled up within the logo are what could be three inverted sixes, although you have to really want to see it.
The tricky part to work out next is the sleuthing/hunting/chasing to be done to fill half a book. Each death is a scene. The historical conspiracy in the Church archives will fill several scenes. A bunch of false leads will add some more. Security footage is good for at least a scene. There will of course be the obligatory car and foot chases. Reporting to the higher ups will be a scene. The ending will run five or more scenes (that overlap with Connor). I may add the special ops team back in for added tension and action. Add a stake out.
Also, there'll be an early scene where Angelo first introduces Inspector Campagna to Connor at the orphanage before the kid leaves for the Holy Land with Romano. Connor looks suspiciously like what Campagna's stolen baby might look like at age fourteen. Of course, according to chapter one, Connor was almost killed in a car accident that took his parents' lives, so could he really be her son?
Hey Dirk. I thought about the dry ice and the foggy demon.
Father got a good dump of dust from the vent before Alessandro's seizure. Dust in his eyes can be very irritating, even causing "spots" and blurred vision intermittently as the eyes try to clear it. Every time he blinks, he's essentially spreading the dust over his cornea again while his eyes are trying to wash it out with tears. Think windshield wipers trying to clear a coat of pollen but your squirter system is only working at half capacity.
If you add in a mention or two that he's having some trouble with his eyes after the dust dump, then when he sees the demon, it makes sense that he THOUGHT he saw fog around the man because of his tearing up, irritated and dusty eyes. But, of course, he knows that people don't walk around with fog surrounding them, so he doubts what he saw and lays it off on the eye irritation.
Just a thought.
~Bobbie~
Thanks, Bobbie. As Yoda would say, "Meditate on this I will."
Actually, the fog isn't a problem. This is a supernatural being, not limited by lack of oxygen caused by dry ice. Romano charges into the mist but doesn't pass out, so he's left wondering if it was dry ice or supernatural fog.
Bobbie, here are some variants of that problem sentence:
Original: "The man, some form of demon, chuckled."
Option 2: "The man -- some form of demon -- chuckled."
Option 3: "The man -- a demon? -- chuckled."
EDIT: I went with option 4: "The man -- surely a demon -- chuckled."
Bobbie, here are some variants of that problem sentence:
Original: "The man, some form of demon, chuckled."
Option 2: "The man -- some form of demon -- chuckled."
Option 3: "The man -- a demon? -- chuckled."EDIT: I went with option 4: "The man -- surely a demon -- chuckled."
Hmm....yeah, I think 4 is probably the best bet. Although my first instant reaction was #3. But on pondering for a moment, I think 4.
On a side note: is there a way to set this so that the current posts come up when I click on the group? I'm having to go to page 18 in the bunch to get to the current.
If you see new forum posts in your groups list, instead of clicking on the post, click on New Forum Posts. That takes you to a page that gives everything in the forum. From there you can click on the words 'new posts' next to a particular thread. I think that works. It's still a few too many clicks, but you saw what happens when someone makes suggestions for improvements. Vern is particular annoying because he likes to shoot down any changes to the site.
Thanks!
I don't think I've run into Vern yet but I shall keep an eyeball peeled for him.
Bob
Kdot, I'll respond to your review later today, but I wanted to highlight one item in particular, which is the danger from the "demon". The scene with Vitale evolved from your suggestion for some sort of threat early in the book + your other suggestion for making the reader care about the victims before I kill them off. The scene is also the natural place to put it, since the sleuthing begins in the next scene. Obviously, I'm introducing the demon right at the start, but I don't know how else to introduce the victim before his death and makes the reader care about him before the investigating begins.
If it was a cheap horror flick, the camera would slowly approach Vitale from behind with ominous music and then kill him before anyone really cares about him. Theoretically, I could invent some other opening for Vitale besides sitting in the church (e.g. perhaps a ride to the church plus a conversation with his driver before he enters the church and is killed by some unknown entity that the reader doesn't see).
I reread the scene from the perspective of whether I should write it horror-flick style but I think the fact that the demon is shrouded in shadows keeps the key element a secret (the true identity of the killer), while building a up a good deal of tension. He's not really a demon, by the way, but that's not important yet.
Thoughts?
It's really still too early in the story for my observation
No need for a detailed reply to the review.
Important disclaimer: I could make such observations about just about any story (including current best sellers). That's why I suggested nothing to change
I made some changes based on your feedback, but not enough to republish. Thanks for your help.
My characters move around a lot so I've got filtering all over the place. *shrug* Some of narrators do it less. I see it in best sellers all the time (not that this should be a guide)
Just watched The Last Jedi for the second time. Once you ignore the fact that they threw out the rule book about how much power Jedi can have (e.g., Luke projecting himself to another part of the galaxy, Rey not needing to be trained, etc.), it's tolerable, albeit with some major weaknesses (e.g., no character arc for Snoke, Admiral Holdo waiting far too long before ramming Snoke's ship, etc.). No worse than The Force Awakens. I'll probably see the last one in a theater since it's the end of the saga. I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle Rey vs. Kylo Ren. The Legacy books had Jacen Solo fall to the Dark Side, and they killed him off. It would have been much more difficult and interesting if they had tried to redeem him. I stopped reading Star Wars books after that. I hope my stories turn out better.
Anyone have an easy fix for this? Ann told me to lose "otherwise coal-black" in the second sentence since he shouldn't be describing himself. Seabrass will flag it, too, if he sees it. I'm trying to avoid a mirror or reflective glass, since those are considered cliches. I've tried several variations, but this is the simplest.
As Romano passed under an air vent, the heating system rained dust on him. He glared at the ceiling as he did his best to shake the gray particles out of his otherwise coal-black hair.
Thanks
Dirk
How about:
He glared at the ceiling as he did his best to shake the particles out of his hair. The last thing he needed for coal-black hair was a head-full of gray dandruff.
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