1 (edited by corra 2017-06-06 02:48:46)

Topic: Well, Vern.

I had planned to watch your Shane as well as my mother's How the West Was Won this week, but I'm afraid I lasted about twenty minutes on both & frayed into this:

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It's me! Not the movies. I generally love classics {although not usually classics from the 1950s because cinema was going through a weird "let's make sure the women are all presented as chirrupy happy homemakers" phase that sets my teeth gritting -- the forties were a better decade for actresses, pardon me}, so I can't handle a Western from so long ago. I could tell from the over-the-top booming previews that these would not be for me, but I did try. Something about the style back then {sing-songy, over-the-top polite dialogue, strange extremely colorful background, and stiff I assume it's supposed to be intense acting} just doesn't work for me. A Western should be gritty, not so stagey. Not that I'm an expert! I haven't actually watched that many.

Anyway, I have stopped in here to confess my complete lack of knowledge on this topic, since I gave you a hard time in the other thread* & to inform the ages that I assure you, based upon the many impenetrable credentials I've outlined above, that {Dances With Wolves} is the best Western film of all time. I watched it today to cleanse my palette of the other films. My goodness, it's perfect. The scene with the wolf eating from his hand! The flag flying over his face. The deep friendships he builds. I don't know why anyone would watch those other sore thumbs when such a film exists.

My remarks are open to speculation.

Sincerely, corra.

*Pardon me, you asked for it.

Re: Well, Vern.

HI, Corra. You said your remarks were open to speculation, so... YOU asked for it. I dunno why, but I gotta weigh in here. SHANE is a masterpiece. Second only to THE SEARCHERS and maybe RIO BRAVO and LONESOME DOVE as bestest Western of all times. I know you were being facetious, but... DANCES WITH WOLVES doesn't even crack the top fifty. You positively gotta watch THE UNFORGIVEN, TRUE GRIT, and THE WILD BUNCH. Not to mention 3:10 TO YUMA, THE HATEFUL EIGHT, and THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES. Okay, that's enough. See you on the Ponderosa. smile

Cheers

John

Re: Well, Vern.

I've never seen Lonesome Dove. A proper suggestion. Do you know what else is good? The Assassination of Jesse James.

Bleh, Shane. I highly doubt I'll attempt it ever again. I might try the book. Then I can imagine it filmed my own way.

I have no desire whatsoever to watch The Searchers or Rio Bravo.

Re: Well, Vern.

I think I saw the Clint Eastwood / Morgan FreemanThe Unforgiven. I will not be watching the 1960 version. Really, the old Westerns are not my genre. Just looking at the trailers I begin to recoil. Life is too short. I'd rather watch Chaplin, or indeed, stare at a blank wall.

True Grit looks endurable. {I watched the 2010 trailer. Not sure if you were referring to something else. I LOVE the Johhny Cash in the background of the trailer.}

The 2007 3:10 To Yuma looks endurable, but I feel that I could live and die never seeing it and not miss much. I will never purposefully watch the prior version. Again, it's me, not the film. I can't stand the old western genre.

I like that Kurt Russell is in The Hateful Eight, but that's about all that interested me in the trailer. At least the trailer didn't shout at me that he was GOOD AND KIND AND JUST A LONELY MAN TRYING TO GET BY, as every single other trailer has done so far today.

The Outlaw Josey Wells looks more endurable than the others. I can't imagine I'd ever purposefully watch it. I'd rather be doing other things...

I stand behind Dances With Wolves. cool

Re: Well, Vern.

Hi, Corra, you gave it a shot, so that's all one can ask. Perfection is in the eye of the beholder, I reckon. My eye still sees Shane as the best and I'm backed up (almost) by John Hamler no less. Perhaps you needed a 1950s big screen portrayal to appreciate it. Things made back then -- to include impressions, lol -- lasted longer you know. Good thing is, you're still awesome even if you don't have perfect taste in westerns. Take care. Vern