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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Yes, but more a drawn out clump than a thump.  Or maybe a schlump.

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Okay njc, I'll 'soften' the sound! Geez, when you guys are not complaining about the lack of sound and smell, you're complaining about the exact sound and smell! *said with love, I know I need all the help I can get, but no admitting it loud or to myself!* smile

Question If Catherine kick or knee Peter in the groin, will he still be able to stop her from reaching her horse (which as per Amy's suggestion will in the next revision be with them in the mill)? *looking at the men for some guidance, please* Don't make me go to the big bad forum!!!!

Thanks for all the help!

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Depends on how hard.  Heck, if the kick were strong enough, it could kill him (shock to the vagus nerve, I believe).  But it has to be very strong, and very well executed.  More likely he'll be severely impaired for half a minute to several minutes.

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

As per the movie with Sandra Bullock...

All you need to know is SING

solar plexus
Instep
Nose
Groin

All of these are nerve bundles and can disable an opponent. Just realize groin shots are tough to kick through skirts. Fabric softens the blow.

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

I don't want her to incapacitate him and get away, he must still be able to prevent her from making a run. I'm thinking just to have her go for his groin and Peter blocking the blow. Any thoughts?

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Have him go down from her attack but grab a foot or something. She goes down to and then its a wrestling match with her vulnerable and at risk.

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

amy s wrote:

Have him go down from her attack but grab a foot or something. She goes down to and then its a wrestling match with her vulnerable and at risk.

I'm also considering her cloak even, bringing her down hard. But in short, we're thinking in the same lines - no running, more of a one-on-one fight she can't win.

Basically I'm left with two options:

(1) She doesn't go for his groin and make a run for it - everyone thinks how stupid, why didn't she kick him in the groin
(2) She goes for his groin and miss because he's a guy and guys protect that package by instinct more than anything else - everyone thinks how stupid, how exactly did she think she's going to out-wrestle a guy twice her size and why didn't she just run

At the end of the day, I just have to accept it's not going to satisfy everyone because the only guarantee to make that happen is for Catherine to clobber Peter into a pulp and get away. Which isn't going to happen. So the choice now needs to be: not selling Catherine short as much as possible. Which leaves me with option 2 and allowing her to get a few more punches and scratches in. I think at the end of the book, everyone will be happy-ish, they just need to get over this unsatisfying scene!

Thanks for all the help!!!

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Ammmyyyy!!!! Just a quick question, pretty please (when you have 5 minutes).

Deep cut in the arm, close to the shoulder, but could be anywhere as long as it's on the arm, I'm not too fussed over the exact location. Weapon: sword. Most of the blow was blocked, but still had enough to make a deep incision. How long would it bleed without intervention? And would it be fatal, just reducing ability to walk/talk/stand up kind of thing, or business as usual given an adrenalin rush. And then a-okay once it's bandaged.

I'd be lost without you!

*grrrrrr* You're not helping Hollywood movies!!!!!

Tah!!!!! xx

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

How muscular is Peter?  How tough are his muscles?  That can make the cut more difficult.

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

It can be as you deadly as you want it to be, depending on where the cut is. If you bag the brachial artery, the wound will bleed them out and the arm will rot off because that is the only pipe feeding the arm. (It branches off at the elbow)

If you hack the biceps or triceps, there is a lot of bleeding. You get to decide how much blood is lost. Make sure that arm is impaired though. They won't be able to flex elbow/shoulder (biceps) or extend elbow/shoulder (triceps). In a big laceration, this would be a permenant injury/disability.

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachial_artery

Good pictures.  'ventral' means the belly/chest side.

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

I like the reference that you provided to Janet. Good pics.

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

You guys really should play less with K! LOL Now, repeat after me: Not all characters have to die dead and savagely! smile Lucky for you lot, I love you all and appreciate all the help to boot! smile

This is actually Matthew bleeding, I should've mentioned that. My bad, sorry. So muscular - you bet! tongue I want him somewhat impaired and able to pretend as if he's not wounded until he moves his arm and gives the whole lie away. Does that make sense? And it goes without saying, he's not allowed to die!!!! So if it's just a muscle that got nicked, it looks like he has about 15 minutes before he needs/gets attention and it would be believable? I'll probably post this chapter over the weekend and then you can let me know if it works or not! But based on the replies so far, I think I'm okay-ish. I'll definitely know once Amy had a good lookover!

Thanks for all the help!!!

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

amy s wrote:

I like the reference that you provided to Janet. Good pics.

I was too scared to click on it, but eventually I did! For some or other reason, I'm under the impression what you think is good pics is somewhat different to what I think is good pics and might not be something I can stomach. If it wasn't njc, I'd probably never have clicked on it! LOL

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Now, repeat after me: Not all characters have to die dead and savagely!

I whole hearetedly agree.
At least one character should find 1000 ways to die (Marsha)
Some characters should cheat death and get the reader's hopes up only to die anyway. Preferably at some inconvenient time for the remainder of the cast
Some characters (Inga) need to find a fate worse than death
Some characters (K-j-) need to be so amazing even Amy and Black John can worship him

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Hence the reason I immortalized you as Lady Kay: mother of Caligula, the Mob's own Kim Kardashian (note the K's in the name), Imperial assassin, and author.

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Janet (AJ) Reid wrote:
amy s wrote:

I like the reference that you provided to Janet. Good pics.

I was too scared to click on it, but eventually I did! For some or other reason, I'm under the impression what you think is good pics is somewhat different to what I think is good pics and might not be something I can stomach. If it wasn't njc, I'd probably never have clicked on it! LOL

In general, WikiP references are safe to click on and not too explicit.  There are exceptions--certain pages on body modification, sexual practices, and so forth.  The math and biology pages are in general very good.

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Kdot wrote:

Some characters should cheat death and get the reader's hopes up only to die anyway. Preferably at some inconvenient time for the remainder of the cast

I once read a novel where this guy imprisoned his brother and took his place. The rest of the world assumed that his brother was dead, but he kept him locked up for YEARS, just in case. The entire first book has tidbits of the brother's life in a solitary prison and it even continues halfway into the second book with him escaping the first prison cell only to find himself in a secondary cell, etc. Then the main guy loses his powers (which he shares with his brother) and readers are led to believe that the brother in prison is the only hope left. So, of course, then comes the scene of letting the brother out of prison. It's all kinds of dramatic and going exactly how the reader expects, then BAM! Guy gets pissed off and shoots his brother so now he's actually dead like the rest of the world believes.

I stared at the page in shock for a good 10 minutes... Needless to say, this is now one of my favorite authors.

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Kdot wrote:

Now, repeat after me: Not all characters have to die dead and savagely!

I whole hearetedly agree.
At least one character should find 1000 ways to die (Marsha)
Some characters should cheat death and get the reader's hopes up only to die anyway. Preferably at some inconvenient time for the remainder of the cast
Some characters (Inga) need to find a fate worse than death
Some characters (K-j-) need to be so amazing even Amy and Black John can worship him

*sigh* I rest my case! big_smile

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

K A J O's big fat and flaming hooters! Sonebody put some boobs on that dude!

I'll give you worship, you you...

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Black John also worships his steak just before dinner ... Just saying. wink

Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

I've worked this whole weekend (again). I'm never going to catch up! sad But so help me, I'm going to try! smile Sorry I'm quiet, work is just bat shit crazy. I'm really hoping it settles soon.

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Give that bat shit some lithium.

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

Janet, the summer is still going on. All of us have taken a break from the chaos and are just starting to recover. Take your time. We'll be waiting for you.

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Re: NorthernSkies or NS - Janet

FYI, for me 11/19/02016 is now spoken for.