njc wrote:

Doesn't sound wierd to me.

That's probably because you studied or were taught grammar?

I think that most people naturally 'feel' that the word couple has a plural assumption.

So we wouldn’t say;

‘The boats is two in number’, we’d say, ‘The boats are two in number.
Or,
‘his testicles is swollen’, we’d say, ‘his testicles are swollen.’
Or,
‘Summer and winter is my favourite seasons’, we’d say, ‘summer and winter are my favourite seasons.’

And therefore we say; 'The couple are in their sixties,’ rather than, 'The couple is in their sixties.

So, turn of phrase speech patterns triumph over grammar all of the time. We use the language as it suits and so it evolves. Grammar is only ever playing catch up. 


Except for this man (the final speaker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QereR0CViMY

'The couple is in their sixties,' just sounds weird in any variation of English. I think it would jar the majority of readers unless written purposely within the dialogue of a character for whom English is not their first language.  English is a bastard of a langauge to learn (and I should know), for the very reasons this discussion exists. The right English used wrongly (or debatably) is often a trait of second language speakers/writers. It can be quaint within dialogue and a powerful device within characterization, if that 2nd langauge speaker is whom you want to depict.   

Sometimes speaking (or writing) English correctly, or to the letter of the grammar law, is wrong because that is not how the language is actually used.

And (sorry for keep coming back), I have to say that a positive relationship with said gracious lady author on this site, prompted me to read a library of books and take a Creative Writing Course at the National Library of Aruba. Changed my life. As simple as.

In any case, I'd far rather that an author politely informs me that he's not looking for new reviewers than snap at me.

I have to chuckle at the turnaround though. During my first appearance on the site, many years ago, authors used to love the non-writer reviewers because without work of their own, there was no need (or even possibility) to reciprocate the review out a sense of duty.

I did review a couple of novels, first chapter to last on the old site and I can't tell you how excited and gratified I was when the author (Nadine -- Brosna) incorporated a couple of my minor suggestions into her prose. I swelled up for about a fortnight.

Lynne Clark wrote:
kraptonite wrote:

I've recently been politely informed within a review reply, that the author doesn’t need reviews. That is appreciated, but I’d rather know before I pen the review because I’m trying to make the review meaningful (in so much as I can).

I wonder what they felt they achieved by posting their work on a review site, if they didn't want it reviewed? Readers are appreciated for their views, but for a writer to post work they don't want to hear anything about? Why? To me, that seems rather odd.

It was not impolite. Just the opposite in fact.Very genial.

A simple, “I'm not looking for new reviewers.” Which is fair enough and totally legitimate. Wouldn’t you rather know? Probably the piece is developed as far as it will be and no further critique is required. More likely my review was deemed inane. I just blathered on about how much I admire the writing and how good the story is. Which is totally true. I read the piece amongst many others and it was 'stand-out' and so I felt compelled to let the author know how it struck me. The author did invite me keep reading and reviewing the other chapters on meaningless basis if I need to accrue the points.

I did continue reading, but lesson learned, if I’m going to review I’ll do it for new pieces that pay decent points.

Booksie.com for readers. TheNextBigWriter.com for writers... and never the twain, I think is where the discussion ended.

Paid-up members 'insulted' that a freebie basic member can read content and leave a review. Also 'developer' writers wanting technical 'writers' reviews rather than 'readers feedback' -- not understanding why any ‘reader’ would want to read Works-In-Progress manuscripts.

The paid-up members have absolute precedence of course.

I'm an old/new member and at the moment also a Basic member on the same thin-ice as William. However, I do intend to go to a full writers membership at some point, but in the meantime I am reviewing in order to rack up a few points to allow me to post my stories. If this is an insult to you, or baffles you please message me and I'll avoid reviewing your work. I've recently been politely informed within a review reply, that the author doesn’t need reviews. That is appreciated, but I’d rather know before I pen the review because I’m trying to make the review meaningful (in so much as I can).

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“We’re gonna need all the towels Doris. The consumptive little bitch won’t stop trying to reach the spittoon atop the wardrobe from the doorway.”

*If you just ignore them, you can pretend the "little people" don't exist."

Dead funny captions when you look at that old picture. Tickled me, anyway.

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