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(12 replies, posted in Young Adult & New Adult)

Gail McNally wrote:

I like the idea and I'm tickled to join but Question if YA actually fits with my characters who are mostly 12 yrs old. Should I be looking for a different group or??? "Children's books" doesn't seem right for 12 yr old adventures

Yes, you are on the cusp. Lol I'd say teen even though they are 12. But I really have no idea. And I suppose it depends on the content.

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(35 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Basic)

I kind of agree with Linda, mainly because I write in 4 genres, NA/YA/Adultparanormal/horror-thriller. I post in three group now (plus premium and free). I set up my posts to go into one or two of the group categories depending on the genre (and where my review buddies are), but add the premium and free to every post. This leaves me group heavy for my Adult paranormal should a group open. I think maybe we are already getting group heavy. It seem some groups are posting just to have forums to talk on.

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(41 replies, posted in Young Adult Writers)

Also the pandora book set was amazing for sales and adding friends to my FB page. Wouldn't mind doing that again.

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(41 replies, posted in Young Adult Writers)

Riffle has definitely worked for me. They usually charge $125, but I think we still get a discount. I am about to use them again for a free day I will schedule for one of my books.  I'll let you know. If we do it's only $25. Well worth it.

You are absolutely right. The NA category was "invented" by, or with, or for, a publishing company to be able to add steamier romance scenes. And it worked. And yes, the violence in Ya books, video games, and movies is very graphic. Go figure. I guess if you're under 18 you can fight, maim and even kill, but god forbid you cross over that attraction line and jump into sex.

penang wrote:
Susan Stec wrote:

I wonder, since you have opened a YA group, should change this to just New Adult?

I think it's okay to keep this a crossover group smile

Okay. I posted Dead Girls in your YA group too

penang wrote:

Crap I think I accidentally reported a post when I really meant to quote it!!!!

Hahahaha. I've done that. You could delete it on the old site. Not sure here.

penang wrote:
Susan Stec wrote:

Also Ang, don't you think it is very important to tag your book properly when self publishing? I have had reviewers who tell me my Dead Girls YA series is NA just because of a bit of cussing and one very small scene sexual in nature. Yet they take my New Adult (Purgatory) series which has sex (not erotica), death, a hooker character, and some cussing, and have occasionally said it's borderline (what ever the hell that is) YA because it's not explicit enough.

I do think it is important to tag it in the blurb or tagline. Sometimes on Amazon I see very obvious erotica showing up on the Teen lists, or even non-romance books showing up on the romance lists. I guess people are trying to find new readers, but that will only get people frustrated that your book doesn't actually fit the genre they want to read.

Your example is exactly what I was saying about NA being so much harder to label, some people see it being about explicit sex/language, while others see it as the age of the characters or the experiences they face. I personally would put the Dead Girls series as mature YA.

I have also seen authors try to pass something off as something it's not. This is never a good idea. They do it with covers too. It just comes back to bite them in the ass as bad reviews. I try to lay it out like it is.
Yeah, Dead Girls is not enough to be NA, but too much to be Teen or even YA. I agree with a Mature YA tag, but is there a tag like that on a Amazon?

I wonder, since you have opened a YA group, should change this to just New Adult?

Also Ang, don't you think it is very important to tag your book properly when self publishing? I have had reviewers who tell me my Dead Girls YA series is NA just because of a bit of cussing and one very small scene sexual in nature. Yet they take my New Adult (Purgatory) series which has sex (not erotica), death, a hooker character, and some cussing, and have occasionally said it's borderline (what ever the hell that is) YA because it's not explicit enough.

As Per wikipedia:
New Adult: This category is intended to be marketed to post-adolescents and young-adults ages 18 to 30. This age group is considered to be the lucrative "cross-over" category of young-adult titles that appeal to both the young-adult market and to an adult audience. Publishers of young-adult fiction now favor this category as it encompasses a far broader audience. The chief features that distinguish the new-adult fiction category from young-adult fiction are the perspective of the young protagonist and the scope of the protagonist's life experience. Perspective is gained as childhood innocence fades and life experience is gained, which brings insight. It is this insight which is lacking in traditional young-adult fiction. The other main differences are characters' ages and the settings. YA does not usually include characters over age 18 or in college, but these characters are featured in New Adult books. New Adult can best be described as the age category after Young Adult.

Young Adult: is fiction written, published, or marketed to adolescents and young adults. The Young Adult Library Services Association (YALSA) of the American Library Association (ALA) defines a young adult as someone between the ages of twelve and eighteen. Authors and readers of young adult (YA) novels often define the genre as literature as traditionally written for ages ranging from sixteen years up to the age of twenty-five, while Teen Fiction is written for the ages of ten to fifteen. The terms young-adult novel, juvenile novel, young-adult book, etc. refer to the works in the YA category.

The subject matter and story lines of YA literature are typically consistent with the age and experience of the main character, but YA literature spans the spectrum of fiction genres. YA stories that focus on the specific challenges of youth are sometimes referred to as problem novels or coming-of-age novels. 

***I can tell you one thing. Having done several book signings, the readers (or in some cases, the MOTHERS of the readers) define these two categories quite well while perusing my books.

Just about every time, they will ask: Does this have strong language or sex? What about blood and guts gory?  Those seem to be the questions that define the separation of the two categories. LOL

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(12 replies, posted in Young Adult & New Adult)

Alrighty.

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(260 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Lou, go from the menu to reviews, then select in line posts to see a response for your review.

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(260 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

LouLou S wrote:

I left a review (yay!) but I saw no notification that I had received a comment in response. I happen to look in my review folder and noticed the author had left a comment. It also seems everyone can see these author review responses?

Am I missing something? Or is it we have to do abit of searching to find review responses?


But apart from that -love the inline reviewing, it suits my review style. I had no idea!
And also I love the mini group forums (so cute) big_smile


Want to add, I'm always using the iPad for this ( unless I have to post written work) so far iPad has been great for reviewing

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(12 replies, posted in Young Adult & New Adult)

I just opened this group so those of us who continuously swap reviews can do so without the point system.
If we can add moderators anyone/or everyone who wishes to be one can be (as soon as I figure out how to add you, lol)

If we want to change the cover - rules - or anything, really; no problem. We can make changes immediately or as we grow. Let's talk.

Should we be an open group? Or by invite only?
Any rules you want to adapt? Or should it just be, we swap review for review or beta read for beta read?
We work so well together, I doubt there will be issues we can't work out among us.

Soooo, weigh in, galls.  It is all about us.

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(260 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

c.e. jones wrote:

Wheeeeee! I made it! Now if only I could finish my next chapter . . . .

Hurry up, I need some practice putting in reviews, answering them too smile

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(260 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I am having such fun uploading books, pics, and hooking up. I even opened a group for my YA-New Adult buds. I love the site.

I have a review to post, I will tackle that next, and reviewing mine. So nice Sol. I am very pleased.