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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

No sweat. I do a great job of blowing myself out of the water. Since the Lesser King isn't a title he adopts until late in book 3, I'll still have to call him something (The Lord's Shepherd or the Staff of Christ), and the book blurb mentions his title (one of the two at the left) and asks "Is Connor the prophesied Lord's Shepherd, and can a young orphan accomplish all that in the time remaining?" The forged letter from Augustine has a similar issue. I don't want the prophesy at the beginning focused on whether Connor is the Lesser King but rather on whether he is the Lord's Shepherd/Staff.

Back to the drawing board. The Advent title can be my fallback.
So close!

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Kdot wrote:

Chronicles of Connor has a nice sound, but might be a little too zero'd in on MC

Fear not, I will find loopholes in everything or my middle name isn't trouble

I prefer "The Chronicles of Connor" more than "Connor's Chronicles". The first one sounds more noble.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Connor's new prophesied title in the forged Augustine letter: The Holy Emissary.

Although I also liked the Holy One, the latter is one of a million titles for Christ and would cause too much confusion,
whereas an emissary is "a person sent on a special mission..." Sounds like our boy. :-) Also, his title has a double
meaning. Connor pretends to be the Holy Emissary in book 1, but in book 3, he actually becomes
the Holy Emissary but sent by God the Father to rule over all those worlds filled with grave sinners.

I could potentially call the series "The Coming of the Holy Emissary," "The Holy Emissary Cometh," or "He Cometh."
The latter is obviously intended to draw a comparison between Connor and Christ.

Any preferences? Go ahead, blow these titles out of the water. :-)

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

To me it sounds like you're talking about the Pope. But you're not. He's not given that title that I could find. However, I wonder if many people would assume the story is about the Pope. That aside, it sounds good to me.

How about "The Chronicles of the Holy Emissary"!   :-)

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

The Pope's most relevant title to this is the "Vicar of Christ".
Not a fan of Chronicles. If the other titles were used, I might.

Possible series titles at this point are:

The Coming of the Holy Emissary
He's Here!

I prefer the first title.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Agreed - "The Coming of the Holy Emissary"

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Can you make it more thriller-ish?

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

How about
"The Dark Coming of the Holy Emissary"
"The Coming of the Unholy Emissary"

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

>> "The Dark Coming of the Holy Emissary"
>> "The Coming of the Unholy Emissary"

Those titles would give away the twist at the end of book one. Connor needs to be viewed as a holy figure, and although he won't pretend to be Christ in the second draft, he needs to be someone on Earth who is viewed as being Christ's lieutenant, which the forged Augustine letter refers to as them being in "harmonious communion." That allows Connor to say and do things "on behalf of" Christ as if the thoughts and actions were being communicated by Him to Connor in real time.

Not sure what other series title would sound more thriller-ish, though. "Hunting the Holy Emissary" and titles like it don't work because the series title is greater than just Satan et al pretending to hunt him throughout book 1.

"Wrath of the Holy Emissary" perhaps? I really like that, but he's primarily supposed to be gathering up followers on behalf of Christ from all corners of the Earth, not meeting out punishment (although that'll be part of his performance).

Regardless, I think the series title should include a reference to the Holy Emissary since the series is primarily about him, and his image will be on the cover of book 1.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

The Gathering Darkness Saga or Tales of The Gathering Darkness - by far the best series titles so far (thanks for the push, Kdot), with only a few false hits on Amazon if you include the word saga/tales. I'd love to rename the first novel to "Child of Light" or similar to steer readers away from thinking the kid on the cover is someone dark, but Child of Light and its variants have been heavily used.

Other alternatives for the name of book one might be:

The Holy Emissary
The Coming of the Holy Emissary
Advent of the Holy Emissary - perhaps too close to the idea of the Advent of Christ
Emissary of [the] Light.

Based on the above, I still prefer Connor's title to be the Holy Emissary (to get that clear connection to God), making the title "The Coming of the Holy Emissary" still the best, IMO, albeit just for the first book, not the series.

One advantage of "Child of Light" is that the word "Child" is least suggestive of the Antichrist, unless you recently watched the Omen. :-)

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Another change I plan to make to book one is that, rather than Connor getting sick without the weapon initially, then seemingly fine once he has it, then megalomaniacal until he's cured at Capernaum, it would be a lot simpler if it was a simple progression from normal to evil to cured. But, that seems rather similar to Frodo and the One Ring, where Frodo grows sicker and more paranoid the longer he wears it, until the volcano when he finally puts it on, until Gollum frees Frodo of it by biting off his finger. In my case, two of my characters (Moses and Antonio) snatch the dagger away.

Key differences between the two are:
- Frodo was clearly a protagonist right from the beginning
- Connor is the hidden antagonist

- The One Ring is a supernatural weapon imbued with Sauron's evil, actively trying to get back to its master
- The dagger is also a supernatural weapon, which in theory, is demonic and created by the Antichrist to stab Connor and introduce a poison that will turn him into a servant of evil, so it seems evil throughout the book
- You don't learn until the end that it was actually created by God the Father for Connor to decide the Last Challenge; thus it's a holy weapon

- The One Ring cannot safely be worn by others and must be destroyed, which can only be done at Mount Doom
- The dagger was supposedly imbued with a spiritual poison in the first draft (which I may change to a more flexible "demonic" poison); it's something people can safely touch (Father Romano, Father Bianchi, and Connor all do so), and they're reluctant to destroy it because they don't know the impact on Connor
- In reality, the dagger cannot be destroyed

- Frodo actually fell under the spell of the ring
- Connor faked falling under the dagger's spell

- Frodo is freed of the ring at Mount Doom but never fully cured
- Connor is "cured" at Capernaum by swallowing water from the Sea of Galilee

- The One Ring is very important to the plot as it's evil and would allow Sauron to take physical form if he gets it, turning Middle Earth to darkness
- The dagger is far less important in book one as it merely determines if Connor falls under the spell of evil; granted the role of the Holy Emissary will be played up as very important, but as an unknown character biblically speaking, the Holy Emissary could fall to darkness, and the Second Coming with all its trimmings would still occur
- even once it's known that the dagger is a holy weapon, it's still not nearly as important to the overall plot as the One Ring, although a dagger that can maim Christ would be a big deal to my target audience, but that would only happen at the end of book three assuming it ever did

- I'm sure there are other differences, but given all of the above, I think I'm safe to simplify/streamline mine; and if not, that's what do-overs are for :-)

Before:
He whittled the end of a fallen branch with the Antichrist’s demonic dagger, recently used by one of that tyrant’s minions to stab Connor. Its addictive poison still flowed through his veins and sickened him, like withdrawal from the fangs of a powerful addiction, whenever he strayed too far from the heinous weapon. There could be no doubt it sought to master him.

After:
He whittled the end of a fallen branch with the Antichrist’s dagger, which the youth had come by honestly enough – from a stab wound to his gut. With the weapon’s poisonous tentacles spreading insidiously throughout his body, seeking to enslave him to evil, and with no known cure, his only hope now lay in finding the source of the healing energy in these lands before time ran out.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Perhaps the biggest difference is the centrality of the ring compared to the dagger as you mentioned. The entire LOTR is centered on the one ring. Not so with the one dagger. The ring controls the story the dagger is a tool in the story.

And it does look different when two holy or crazy people snatch it compared to an obsessed lunatic creature biting off Connor's finger.

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Some refinements of the story:

- the real Last Challenge, where Connor decides at whom to throw the dagger, Christ or Satan, remains unchanged
- the fake Last Challenge, which is a part of the conspiracy, is that Satan supposedly bet God that the Church would be so corrupt by the End Times that God would be unable to find even one priest worthy of Heaven
- the role of the Holy Emissary, according to the Augustine letter, is therefore to cleanse the Church of corruption before the Final Judgement, become the Last Vicar of Christ, replace the clergy with children (child priests & priestesses), and then dispatch them to every corner of Creation to deliver the Lord’s urgent final call for all to seek refuge from the coming storm in the sheltering arms of the Church, led by Connor
- ostensibly, the reason Christ picked a teenager as the Holy Emissary is that he wanted someone innocent and incorruptible to lead the child priests & priestesses (imagine Connor as innocent and incorruptible, lol); it nicely explains why Christ chose him, though
- the reason Satan and his minions supposedly want Connor either dead or a servant of evil is that the Holy Emissary would essentially guarantee that God will win the (fake) Last Challenge since child priests & priestesses are all (or mostly all) worthy of Heaven; it would totally blow Satan out of the water if it weren't all part of his plan
- the (revised) poison in the Antichrist's dagger is supposed to be one that turns the victim into a servant of evil, which is what Connor will supposedly be fighting throughout his Holy Land trip; I'll probably punt all of the complexity of initially withholding the dagger from Connor, then giving it to him because Romano is desperate, then Connor feels better but becomes megalomaniacal, then is cured at the Sea of Galilee; instead, Connor's descent into evil will be a gradual thing from the beginning of the trip onward until he's cured in the water
- the above ties together Connor's supposed role (Holy Emissary) with his secret role, and allows him to purge the Church of real priests and replace them with children, whom Satan wants Connor to corrupt because they're easier to lead (astray) than real priests
- with the added focus on children in later books, I think the target audience could expand to include younger readers too (down to at least age fourteen if not a bit younger), which is something I always wanted. It's why I used corporeals instead of demon-possessed humans as the Star Wars-like stormtroopers of the story (they can't hit the broad side of a barn, they exist to be shot, and no one living is actually "seen" to die during shootouts); the only rather gross part is that corporeals dissolve into nasty remains when the demons flee the corpses; they'll even have the ability to allow their faces to melt while running at their shooter to terrify them (whenever Detective Campagna does the shooting)
- since Connor is no longer pretending to be Christ, very little (nothing?) will happen in book one that contradicts the Bible, so no more need to explain any of that away (no alternate timelines or any equally dissatisfying complexity); and once the conspiracy is revealed, there's nothing to explain away anyway
- these changes nicely streamline key elements of the story and tie them together much better and more believably than in the first draft; yay!

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

I was wondering about the age of the child priests and nuns. This reminded me of the Children's Crusade. This is from AI - The children involved in the Children's Crusade, which took place in 1212, were primarily between the ages of 10 and 18.

Is that the general age you plan to use? I couldn't find a range of child priest ages in what you wrote.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

>>instead, Connor's descent into evil will be a gradual thing from the beginning of the trip onward until he's cured in the water

There can be advantages to a gradual descent into evil. If your reader is analytical then they can get caught up with the agony of watching it occur. 'Oh no! Connor really is changing!' Or they're lulled to sleep and get a shock at the end. 'Connor's the AC?!?!'

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>>Or they're lulled to sleep and get a shock at the end. 'Connor's the AC?!?!'
Nobody would be surprised by that, would they? :-)

I read a bit about the Children's Crusade. Ugh! Many of them sold into slavery. The depravity of the human race knows no bounds, although slavery was a part of society long before that crusade (and still is). Converting your enemy through non-violent means sounds a little like what Pope Nnamani has in mind to retake the Vatican.

I had that age range in mind, although the whole idea of doing so really is just to further the plans of the Unholy Trinity: Connor takes over the Church, kicks out any uncooperative clergymen, and begins to pull together the "Lambs of the Lord" to do "Christ's bidding." Of course, since he bails on Satan halfway through book two, the Lambs never get off the ground.