Re: Northern Skies - Janet!
There are chapters tucked in the end of Book 1 that are meant for later books. If you care to start with -Kirsey Visits His Old Master at the Academy- I'd appreciate it.
Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi → Northern Skies - Janet!
There are chapters tucked in the end of Book 1 that are meant for later books. If you care to start with -Kirsey Visits His Old Master at the Academy- I'd appreciate it.
He writes an awful lot for someone who admits he has the attention span of a soap bubble.
This sounds an awful lot like a critique he gave me over a year ago (awwww he likes you too!)
njc wrote:Do please note that I'm stalled in a major revision pass.
Also, I haven't rreviewd romance before. (KH's stories don't count; they resemble the kind of romance Heinlein would have written.)
lol kaboom! Pow! Smooches!
As they are too busy to notice that the bridge is falling out from under them.
*panics* You're saying this as if it's a bad thing?! Because now I have to change my ending, like completely! It would've been beautiful. Catherine and Matthew were sorting out all their little issues and misunderstandings next to her mare that was fouling the whole time (like for hours and hours) only to have the stables caught fire just when they kissed. The whole roof and all the walls collapsed and they were engulfed in flames without them noticing. And just before it was too late, Matthew would sweep Catherine into his arms and take her to safety before he returns to drag the mare and foul with the other horses to safety as well. He did it, with only a moment to spare before it would all be lost.
Oh well, only need a few minor touches here and there and it would be good to go again ... *stops panicking*
If I don't know who Heinlein is, how big is the gap in my education? And will you still talk to me?
There are chapters tucked in the end of Book 1 that are meant for later books. If you care to start with -Kirsey Visits His Old Master at the Academy- I'd appreciate it.
This actually helps! I'm on it.
ps - I was worried there for a moment you were looking for all kinds of reasons to get out of this ...
But seriously, if it gets too tedious, just let me know! I don't mind doing reviews when it's not reciprocated chapter-by-chapter, I know romance is not everyone's cup of tea. But then again, I've been really surprised at the reviews non-readers of the genre gave so far despite their initial reservations ...
ps - Now I'm worried it looks like I'm also trying to get out of this ...
@K
*chewing my candy cane while not going anywhere* <----- negation was done on purpose here, which means I'll try to be more attentative with my writing on this one
Thanks heaps, that's some brilliance right there! [Just ignore amy and bimmy's replies for me saying you're brilliant, we know what we know! ]
Only sticky point is the names - I could get rid of pele and bring it in later when they approach Dacre Tower. South Tyne I'll have to think about, because it places them, Aiden Tower and Dacre Tower right on the big bold red "you are here in England" X. Matthew Dacre, Earl of Norwood is one name (really, it is - this is what I usually read *before joining TNBW anyways* and had gotten used to going back to the first five pages until the title-name combinations were familiar to me, so I should be ok especially since I'm only introducing one lord in the first chapter) ... Davie could also become a nobody as much as I like the lad. Aiden Tower I can probably also work out somehow ie "my brother's tower".
So that leaves, Tyne (which doesn't count IMO) - Matthew - Robert - George - Henry - Catherine for the whole chapter. Probably as good as it will get. I don't mind if Robert, George, Henry (and later Tom) blend into one person. Should I though? I hope not.
If Ben was going to see Catherine expecting trouble, and was taking some of his brawny buds with as back-up, you'd be introducing Ben - Catherine - buddy 1 - buddy 2 - Einhardt or Annette (to cause the trouble) - and I don't know where we are, but is ok with it for now, so I'll give you that one. Buddy 1 and buddy 2 will blend together, but they're disposable, so it shouldn't matter.
So, what I'm trying to say is, that is really my problem - Catherine and Matthew do not meet in a way or environment or genre to be able to get rid of naming characters, titles or the place. But who knows, maybe I'll wake up between 2-3am tomorrow morning with a brilliant idea of my own! But by getting rid of pele and Aiden (like in the tower), it's already an improvement?! *crossing little toes anxiously*
And as always, I really appreciate this! And yeah, it's helping. Lots.
Thanks!
amy/bimmy
I just laughed! And thanks for the support!
One day I'll tell you about my day job. Trust me, this is nothing! I don't have thick skin, I have graphene skin!
xx
Still too many names, and K isn't the only one (why am I not surprised). A new reviewer made a good suggestion - use a prologue. As much as I hate prologues, they have a time and a place. And I think it would solve a few of my problems I still have with the first chapter - names as well as the tension/stakes. So I'm seriously thinking to have a prologue where the villian plans the so-called raid to kill Matthew. This way, Matthew is already introduced properly by the time we hit a few more names and no one is uncertain of the where and the why. And every reader will go WTF when Catherine rocks up from nowhere with an arrow in her arm.
Do you guys think by going down the prologue route, I'm opting for the easy way out?! Or do you also think it will work?
Thanks!!!!
xxx
I'm in chapter 12ish atm.
Knowing what I know now, I can see you don't need both Henry and Robert in chapter one.You're safe to boil chapter one down to the following characters: The stakeholders and the scene-setters.
(Personally, I'd whack out about 5 more, but I'm a minimalist)
Ok, Robert also stayed home. Need Henry to treat the wound; anyone can go and sort out the villagers.
pft, minimalist. I disagree. You whack out 5 more, you just went to a raid by yourself. Black John would say: Brave or daft. Two guesses which one he'll be going for!
But serious again, I'm incorporating the comments/suggestions to see how it works out and if I can avoid a prologue. Thanks!
Do you need to tell us any more than you are telling now? If not, you probably don't need a prologue. In the review I mentioned a couple of little things you might add. A prologue would be conspicuous consumption excess for them.
Do you need to tell us any more than you are telling now? If not, you probably don't need a prologue. In the review I mentioned a couple of little things you might add. A prologue would be conspicuous consumption excess for them.
This was mentioned mostly by reviewers that had seen the original chapter in Catherine's POV. I've changed the POV, based on amy's suggestion, because Catherine's POV was very introspective and inner dialogue ie slowed it down too much for a first chapter.
I thought not knowing what she was doing there (this will come out in the next chapter) and that Matthew was going to take her back with him against her will, would raise the tension sufficiently. But like everything else, there's probably a balance between too much and too little. I think I should be able to address that with a few minor tweaks.
What you call a prologue, I call a new first chapter. Tomato, Tamata. If you feel it would flow better then put the plotting and murder attempt at the beginning
What you call a prologue, I call a new first chapter. Tomato, Tamata. If you feel it would flow better then put the plotting and murder attempt at the beginning
Too short to be called a chapter. I know what you're going to say now, who cares, right? But it will be a few paragraphs short. But I think I'm good now - Robert is gone, Matthew is mentioned sooner, so titles and river names and Davie excluded, we have Matthew, George, Henry and Catherine.
I have to say, I'm pretty happy with it - never thought I'd get to this point!
Where'd my post go!?
Frick
I said just call it chapter one! Lol! And i said....if you're doing a prologue it shoyld be in the past where Matthew locks up catherine.
There.
Where'd my post go!?
Frick
I said just call it chapter one! Lol! And i said....if you're doing a prologue it shoyld be in the past where Matthew locks up catherine.
There.
Sorry bimmy, no go (like the chains and stuff), you'll have to be patient!
Black john can be called that because he got burned in the fire.
I dare you bimmy LOL Just watch your back, he moves with stealth too hehehe
Black John...because he looks stunning in that color. Very slimming.makes his eyes pop.
K, Black John is used to women trying every trick in the book to get his attention, if not for that, he would've accepted your offer gladly and he would have pulled the lever himself!
ps - let me know if I need to activate any of the old chapters ... I took them away as I'm going to make huge changes and didn't want to create confusion ...
Would you like me to quit reading the first draft?
Would you like me to quit reading the first draft?
No! So I'll activate those chapters again. At this stage I think all of them would make the final cut, albeit in a different order, so it wouldn't be a waste of your time or a waste for me.
IOU millions!
Janet
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