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Hi all!
I'm new here, looking forward to meeting y'all and reading some of your stuff.
I'm working on my first novel, which is exciting and terrifying at the same time. Any advice?
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Hi all!
I'm new here, looking forward to meeting y'all and reading some of your stuff.
I'm working on my first novel, which is exciting and terrifying at the same time. Any advice?
Welcome aboard. It's a great site. Some advice:
1. You will need a thick skin to be here. People don't mind telling you what they think about your writing. And that it a great thing. Chances are excellent that you're not the next Updike or Hemmingway. So, get ready to learn and be corrected. It might take you a while to get a good handle on things.
2. Back up your writing. I lost a couple/few years of stuff when this website crashed.
3. I try to stay away from the Regular Reviews. You can be much more surgical by giving In-Line Reviews. AND DON'T TRY TO DO THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM. The Regular Reviews only require 50 words. The In-Line only require 5-comments. I try to give at least 20 In-Line comments. Some writers are so good that it's difficult for me to hit 20. I have one reviewer who would let me know how many comments he left me. I challenged him to make 100 In-Line comments on one chapter. HE ACCEPTED AND DID IT!
4. If I don't like your writing (too much sex and/or violence or whatever), then I will tell you and stop reading it. I've had interesting discussions with people concerning what they've written.
5. Leave a Public Profile. That can help me decide if I want to read your stuff.
6. Form a circle or group of people who you can help, and they can reciprocate. Join the more formal groups (e.g. medieval, fantasy/ magic) and then jump in with the postings. These can be very good.
7. Use book cover pics.
8. You will learn stuff that's beyond grammar. Be open to it. I've recently started cutting back chapters to about 1500 words because one author that I've read does it that way and I like it.
9. Join the contests. They're great for stretching your abilities.
Keep on writing!
George FLC
Welcome, Margo. The site is a little quiet right now as we lost quite a few users with the crash/recovery, but they're slowly coming back. There's a Young Adult/New Adult group that might interest you, but it needs more members before it gets any traction. As George suggested, consider joining the medieval fantasy/magic group. It's actually for fantasy, magic, and sci-fi (anything fantastical, really, which covers a lot genres). That group will be renamed in the near future to something more appropriate. Based on the content summary of your book, I think that group would be a good fit. Some of us use the forum there for brainstorming with other writers in the group. See my forum thread there entitled The Archangel Syndrome to see how I use it.
Also, I suggest joining the Writing Tips & Site Help group. You can ask any writing/site questions you like, and there are a few of us lurking there to try to answer your questions. If you want as many eyes as possible on your question/concern or need information in the hurry, feel free to post directly to the Premium forum. No one there bites.
Many of the groups on the site are stale/abandoned, so if you join a group and there's zero activity, chances are it will be going away sometime next year when we purge abandoned groups. For now, check out the thread "Group Cleanup - Feedback Please" in the Premium forum to see what groups are likely to remain (and what they'll be called once we do the cleanup/purge). Feel free to join any of the groups listed there as being ones that we'll keep.
Welcome!
To follow up on George FLC's comment on grammar, and since I'm mostly lurking these days, here's my minimized lecture on grammar:
Grammar is not just a thing right or wrong. Grammar is a tool of the writer. In English's magnificently rich grammar there are usually many ways to present a structure of ideas. In a complex sentence, we choose which idea deserves the high seat of the main clause, and which ideas should support from subordinate clauses. We decide which modifiers deserve the weight of a relative clause, which justify a prepositional phrase, and which can be budgeted an adjective or adverb, according to how much of the reader's attention we want to spend on each. We order our clauses and sentences with care so that the prose flows smoothly through one topic and into the next, with a minimum of jumping back and forth.
Grammar is not just a thing right or wrong. Grammar is a tool of the writer. In English's magnificently rich grammar there are usually many ways to present a structure of ideas.
Call me Ishmael.
That is a great summary, njc.
Hello Margo,
I only have one rule to share with you: Write the book, short story, or poem that you would want to read and you should be ok. As for reviews, you do you. That's about it, except don't let anyone here discourage you from writing. They are not professional reviewers, they're just giving you their opinions. And you know what they say about opinions.
Finally, Margo, just have fun.
See ya out there,
dagny
Hello Margo,
I only have one rule to share with you: Write the book, short story, or poem that you would want to read and you should be ok. As for reviews, you do you. That's about it, except don't let anyone here discourage you from writing. They are not professional reviewers, they're just giving you their opinions. And you know what they say about opinions.
Finally, Margo, just have fun.
See ya out there,
dagny
Well said, have fun.
njc - well said. Perhaps I should go over your grammar in this comment. :-)
njc - well said. Perhaps I should go over your grammar in this comment. :-)
Have at it.
George FLC wrote:njc - well said. Perhaps I should go over your grammar in this comment. :-)
Have at it.
The top is what you wrote. The bottom is what Grammarly suggests:
Welcome!
To follow up on George FLC's comment on grammar, and since I'm mostly lurking these days, here's my minimized lecture on grammar:
Grammar is not just a thing right or wrong. Grammar is a tool of the writer. In English's magnificently rich grammar there are usually many ways to present a structure of ideas. In a complex sentence, we choose which idea deserves the high seat of the main clause, and which ideas should support from subordinate clauses. We decide which modifiers deserve the weight of a relative clause, which justify a prepositional phrase, and which can be budgeted an adjective or adverb, according to how much of the reader's attention we want to spend on each. We order our clauses and sentences with care so that the prose flows smoothly through one topic and into the next, with a minimum of jumping back and forth.
Grammarly
Welcome!
To follow up on George FLC's comment on grammar, and since I'm mostly lurking these days, here's my minimized lecture on grammar:
Grammar is more than just a thing, right or wrong. Grammar is a tool of the writer. In English's magnificently rich grammar, there are usually many ways to present a structure of ideas. In a complex sentence, we choose which idea deserves the high seat of the main clause and which ideas should support from subordinate clauses. We decide which modifiers deserve the weight of a relative clause, which justify a prepositional phrase, and which can be budgeted as an adjective or adverb, according to how much of the reader's attention we want to spend on each. We carefully order our clauses and sentences so that the prose flows smoothly through one topic and into the next, with minimal jumping back and forth.
Please, anyone, tell me what you think.
Look at the few differences and decide for yourself which is the more vigorous prose. Grammarly dropped a comma; tell me which reads better.
My guess is that my vivid, energetic prose defeated or flustered most of its algorithms. It fell back on a stylebook comma rule and the reduction of more colorful prepositional phrases to adverb and adjective modifiers. Its first change also turned a precise description (with an elided 'that is') into flavorless, stale mush of the sort favored by academics when pushing agendas
'budgeted as an adjective' reads like someone trying to hide a staff party in the quarterly budget. Has Grammarly has been helping with too much academic administrivia?
The Great Crash destroyed the only complete copies of my Comma Heresy Manifesto. I should reconstitute it.
Perhaps Grammarly's last name is Mediocre?
njc: Grammarly is not perfect but is great for catching 'simple' errors and rephrasing sentences. I liked your initial post. I won't argue with you. After Grammarly graces my prose I try to go over the writing tips that reviewers have given me.
How does one put art into a program? There is that certain aspect mentioned called flow. You can tell when a story flows. Will even AI be able to cause prose to flow? Good conversation.
Actually, there is one copy of my Comma Heresy Manifesto, here: https://www.thenextbigwriter.com/forums … tml#p34847 . Read it if you dare!
Hi all!
I'm new here, looking forward to meeting y'all and reading some of your stuff.
I'm working on my first novel, which is exciting and terrifying at the same time. Any advice?
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