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bonus points if the lover's name is Andrew

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Close. It's Antonio, formerly Davide. I didn't like the latter. I would leave out actual mental dialogue, but I think haunting Romano with whispers and ghostly appearances of Antonio would be good.

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Kdot, I tried using international time as opposed to American in the story as you suggested, and it turns out, international time is mostly used for official purposes (e.g., airports, train stations, etc.). In Italy, spoken time is so complex it's not worth the effort to convert it to English. I had a mishmash of different ways of presenting it (one for narrative, another for spoken when am/pm is obvious, another when am/pm is not known, etc.). I finally settled on hours:minutes a.m. and hours:minutes p.m. I can die happily now.

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Eh. A story set in Italy that Americanizes the culture for me might as well be set in Little Italy, New York. Audrey voice: "You can dooo eeeet"

In related news, Project L which is set in Earth Prime (eg our Earth) I'm really enjoying the writing process because it has terms like "midnight" and "o'clock". You wouldn't believe how awful it is to write around time references.

On the other hand, it's taught me (forced) to learn to downplay time.

A: When are you headed to the masquerade?
B: When the second hour tolls

So awkward! No way for B to answer this without using Earth terminology, so I make sure A doesn't ask with such precision

A: Are you going to the ball?
B: Tonight's? Of course

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

I have things like time of death for the corpse, which falls in a range of specific times. It's not just the Italians. I speak German and would need to convert their way of expressing time to American if writing in English. Think of it as UK time.

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I have a new, small prologue up, and scene 3.1, the funeral of Romano's former lover. I've been looking forward to writing scene 3.2, where Campagna first meets De Rosa's godson. She's going to spiral as badly as Romano in 3.1. After that, Connor "observes" an exorcism. :-)

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Had to take 3.1 (the funeral) down. Turns out I wrote almost all of it in the form of telling. Duh. Should be back up later this week.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Scene 3.1 is back up.

Thanks
Dirk

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The cardinal deaths came to mind again while reading a recent review by Clairedeplume. I've been trying to minimize the violence in this story to make it as palatable for my target audience (mainly Catholics & Christians) as possible. It was one of the reasons why I chose suicide over murder as the cause of death for all four cardinals that will die in the story. It's also the reason I limited the number of deaths to four (two before Connor goes to the Holy Land, and two after he's there, eliminating him as an obvious suspect given his supernatural powers). It's eventually revealed that, historically, over the decades (centuries?) there were many dead cardinals who appeared to die by suicide.

Buried alive is my favorite of the bunch, which normally would be considered quite gruesome (the detectives think so), but I show the burial as it's happening and the cardinal just lies there peacefully praying while being buried. He can't fight the satanic being who wants to kill him (the being is too powerful), so he decides to allow himself to be buried to avoid extreme torture, which is an acceptable excuse for suicide according to the Church. In other words, he'll still get to heaven. FYI, the reason the satanic being doesn't want to kill him outright is that killing a prince of the Church comes "at a cost" (suffering) for the being.

I've been debating since the beginning making the cause of death non-violent for all the cardinals. The first dead cardinal could still show up in the cemetery, so most of the story remains unchanged. Even scene 1.2 (Cardinal Vitale's death) may be partially reusable, up to but not including his actual death, which would have to occur before he's buried. All of the cardinals would be positioned in the form of an upside down cross and would wear a ring engraved with the numbers 666, the mark of the Antichrist.

What do you think? Can a thriller maintain tension if the cause of the four deaths isn't violent or gruesome? I was thinking if no one knows how they die, that would maintain the tension. In other words, someone is stalking cardinals and killing them, probably using some unknown poison. The trick becomes how the Antichrist gets the poison into them without it being obvious.

Thoughts?
Dirk

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I wish I had a better understanding of the finer points of the genre hmm

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Did you ever watch Angels & Demons directed by Ron Howard, based on the book by Dan Brown? That film is the definition of a thriller. However, it included numerous deaths of police officers, three gruesome deaths of cardinals, and a fourth one that Tom Hanks foils. And let's not forget the hidden antimatter bomb that would kill thousands in St. Peter's Square.

EDIT: The film is way better than the book at maintaining suspense/action.

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No never watched or read those

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It occurs to me that I still have the attacks against Connor for thrill (e.g., my new prologue) and the cardinal deaths for murder/mystery. Only the manner of death will change. While I was relying on the different types of "forced" suicides to give the book some variety and avoid it becoming repetitive, I'll have to see if I can find other ways to maintain interest in the murder/mystery. Gives me something to think about this weekend.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

After researching poisons, I decided to settle on good old cyanide. It's relatively painless if you take a lethal dose, which doesn't take much. So, basically, the dark being is going to be handing out cyanide (and water bottles?) to his victims. A painless form of suicide, which minimizes the amount of suffering that the dark being, in turn, experiences for killing cardinals. The undigested capsules will be discovered in the stomachs during autopsy, so the big question for the detectives and the Church is why cardinals are taking cyanide. I originally thought to have them wear a 666 ring and position them like an upside-down cross, but part of me wants to keep knowledge of the Antichrist's involvement completely out of the early killings and have the clues be more subtle and slow in coming out. That probably requires more deaths, which I've been trying to avoid. However, now that the deaths are all painless suicides, I may have a little freedom to kill a few more cardinals, if necessary. It would also mean losing all of scene 1.2 (Cardinal Vitale's encounter with the dark being). Regardless, the reader is ahead of the detectives since the book summary already states that the Church concludes it and Connor are being stalked by the Antichrist, so what's the point of delaying when the detectives learn the truth?

I'm going to take a crack at rewriting scenes 1.2 and 1.4 using cyanide rather than burying Vitale alive to see if I like it. Once those are written, I'll decide if I want to keep the Antichrist out of the picture completely until later.

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Sorry to wake up so late on the point.  Read Dorothy Sayers' =Gaudy Night=.  Nobody actually dies during the story (though not for want of trying),  but the sense of menace can crush you (like the chess set).

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

In my case, the cardinals have to die because it's the End Times and the Unholy Trinity are trying to conquer the Church from within. Satan has been working on this for decades (or maybe even centuries), moving his minions into positions of power. I plan to make them responsible for the sexual abuse. I'd make him responsible for the Protestant split from Catholicism, but that would piss off Protestants, so I won't be going there.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

The revised chapter 2 (scene 1.2) of Cardinal Vitale's death by poisoning is up.

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After a discussion on my Catholic forum, I decided to revert to the previously planned deaths (buried alive, hanging, ???, and ???). They don't like gruesome deaths, so I'll try to minimize that aspect, but one of the other members of the site reminded me that Revelation is a violent book. Which begs the question: how do I keep a Catholic audience if I do a relatively accurate portrayal of Revelation in my books two and three?

Chapter two now up on the site excludes the cyanide element but adds other changes, including the dark being identifying himself as the Antichrist and a cross-shaped grave. Not much else has changed.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

After thinking about it some more (and with encouragement from Seabrass), I decided to completely punt scene 1.2 from the book. The first appearance of Vitale will be as a corpse in scene 1.4. The reader will learn about the Antichrist during the course of the detectives' investigation. I wasted a lot of time writing and rewriting this chapter only to toss it. Poor Temple started her review before I could take the scene down from the Home page. At least she got points.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Unless you've been living under a rock, you know Connor is the focus of my story. He displays an increasing number of supernatural powers as the story progresses (comforting the grieving, healing the sick, casting out demons, etc.). However, he has no knowledge that he may be Jesus returned to Earth as a boy, although Church elders increasingly think it's possible.

My latest prologue is a peek ahead to two weeks after the start of the story, when he is travelling in the Holy Land, retracing the footsteps of Jesus. The scene has him surrounded by frightened members of the Holy Land tour as a demonic swarm of locusts bears down on them. Each locust has a stinger like that of a scorpion, as described in the Book of Revelation (locusts don't naturally have stingers). Connor has yet to realize his full potential, so even he's not yet sure what he can and can't do.

When it comes to the locust attack, I mention that everyone is huddled around Connor, hoping he can save them. Everyone except Connor is trembling. It's the trembling I question. Although he's not yet reached his full potential, he has an unswerving faith in God, and prays for a miracle. Shouldn't he be trembling, too? After all, he's not Christ-like yet.

I'm inclined to have him tremble, in spite of his faith in God. This affects more than just this one event. His powers increase from event to event, increasing his confidence with each miracle.

Thoughts.
Dirk

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No real need for him to tremble unless you have a particular story-wise need

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Depending upon the number of such events/attacks (TBD), I think I'll let his confidence evolve with each miracle. So, if the above scene takes place early on, I'll have him tremble because he doesn't know his own powers. Him struggling with his imperfect faith could be a good character arc for him. If the event takes place later, he'll no longer tremble. I've only begun to figure out how many ways he is attacked, especially in the Holy Land, where he's supposed to be safe from the Antichrist who is still killing cardinals in Rome. There's no way the Antichrist can be doing both, so some think Connor is being hunted by the False Prophet. I wish I could get rid of the latter character from Revelation since his potential presence is complicating the story/mystery.

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Snow? My X-Ice tires laugh at snow. Bring it on!

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So now that I've punted scene 1.2 (Cardinal Vitale killed by the Antichrist), I have three back-to-back scenes with Father Romano/Connor as follows:

- 0.0 Prologue - Connor saves the tour group in the Holy Land from the locusts
- 1.1 Connor cures Alessandro's epilepsy
- 1.2 Cardinal Vitale is killed by the Antichrist (deleted)
- 1.3 Connor and Alessandro share breakfast and become friends

I've been trying to alternate between Father Romano/Connor scenes and Inspectors Campagna/De Rosa scenes. I wrote Vitale from his own POV, but considered it part of the murder mystery.

Does it matter that I have three opening Romano/Connor scenes (spanning two chapters and 13 pages) in a row? Campagna and De Rosa don't appear until the last scene (1.4, 7 pages) of chapter one when Vitale's body is discovered.

I'm considering adding a one-page scene in place of 1.2 where the Antichrist enters the Church and confronts Vitale, but ending it before the killer reveals who he is. I could re-use that same approach for the other three killings.

Cardinal Aristotele Vitale sat alone, praying before the high altar of Basilica Papale di San Lorenzo fuori le Mura, his titular church in Rome. Father Coppola, the parish pastor, had already left for the night, locking the doors behind him.
Heavy footsteps approached Vitale from behind. He waited, thinking Coppola had returned. “Did you forget something, Father?”
A sonorous male voice said, “Good evening, Your Eminence.”
The cardinal turned.
A dark being stood a few feet away. Light barely penetrated to his face or clothes, as if he was shrouded in deep shadows where none existed. He was tall, with a large build.
Vitale frowned and struggled to stand. “Who are you?”
“Allow me to introduce myself.” The temperature dropped considerably, the lights dimmed, fog swirled around the being, and his eyes glowed red.

I could also end scene 1.2 right after he says "Good evening, Your Eminence."

Thoughts?

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If it helps, I followed no such patterns in book 6, bringing in Marsha-1's POV for the first time in like chapter 8, and generally picking whichever POV best fit each scene (as opposed to alternating). Large chunks of the opening chapters had one POV. No one commented on it, so not sure it mattered