1 (edited by Norm d'Plume 2018-05-26 15:53:06)

Topic: "Event" transitions?

I've been told more than once by reviewers to lose words like "Just then" when transitioning from one event to another in my story. For example,

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane! They just put the fate of humanity solely in the hands of Emperor Bastardus!”
Just then, an explosion rocked the prison. Everyone ran out of their cells and looked for the source. A siren began to wail.

I'm told a new paragraph is sufficient to serve as the transition, but I disagree. To me, a new paragraph is a continuation of one story event, whereas "Just then" is a more explicit break signalling a new event. Here it is without "Just then":

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane! They just put the fate of humanity solely in the hands of Emperor Bastardus!”
An explosion rocked the prison. Everyone ran out of their cells and looked for the source. A siren began to wail.

How do others handle these transitions?

Thanks
Dirk

2 (edited by Sideman 2018-05-26 17:34:19)

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Hi Dirk,

I try to avoid them when I can. Following is my take on the short scenario you offered:

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane! They just put the fate of humanity solely in the hands of Emperor Bastardus!” Joseph's words had barely left his mouth when an explosion rocked the prison. Everyone ran from their cells and looked for the source as a siren began to wail.

I also replaced "out of" with "from". I think it's more concise.

My opinion, for what it it's worth. Hope it helps at least a little bit. Good luck with your story!

Alan

PS:  Also, if you're interested, here's a pretty good article referencing transitional phrases. I use it when my own thought process fails me. You'll notice that of the many transitional examples they suggest/recommend, "just then" is not one of them:

https://smartblogger.com/transitional-phrases/

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Thank you, Alan. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes me to master this.

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You're welcome. Based on your forum posts, I get the impression you're a pretty smart guy - I think you'll find your comfort zone with that, and any other things that give you pause - very quickly. I've not read any of your writing per se as it's not a genre I typically read. But I'll head over sometime this weekend and check out your work. See ya then ...

Alan

5 (edited by Deckland Oz 2018-05-26 23:06:20)

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Transitional phrases are one of those tools writers unconsciously use as a crutch. They seem like a natural way to move from one scene to another, but often as not, they only make your writing sound amateurish. Sometimes they simply can't be avoided, or can be tweaked to sound fresh. Otherwise, the best way to deal with them is probably not to simply replace one over-used phrase with another (i.e., “just then” with “the words had barely left his mouth”) but to stand back and look at your approach to writing scene transitions in general.

In the scene cited, you introduce the new event with the phrase “an explosion rocked the prison.” This phrase as a piece of narration is problematic in a couple ways. First, it’s as much a cliché as “just then” or “the words had barely left his mouth.” For that reason alone you should probably cut it out. But the real problem is that it’s pure narrative summary, (aka, telling.)

The way to segue into a new scene without falling back on a tired transitional phrase is to show the new event as experienced through your POV character, rather than simply telling the reader it has occurred.

For example, I’m standing minding my own business in some prison when somewhere in the vicinity something explodes. How do I experience that? Of course, it depends on various factors, mainly proximity to the explosion. But one way to approach relating my experience is like this:

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane! They just put the fate of humanity solely in the hands of Emperor Bastardus!” A loud POP! broke the air. Joseph rocked on his feet, ears ringing. A siren wailed. “What the Hell was that?” Prisoners ran from their cells. “Explosion!” one of them yelled.

Far from perfect, but I hope it shows what I mean. The reader experiences the explosion along with Joseph rather than simply being told about it. The fact it was an explosion at all could be expressed later or via dialog as above.

Anyhow, just my take on a very thorny technical issue. I hope it helps.

Deck

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Deck, there's a big difference between a loud pop breaking the air and an explosion rocking the prison. The former sounds like someone passing gas. :-)  Seriously, I switch to telling for action sequences. Check out the sub-article embedded in the one Alan linked to above. It goes on forever with examples of transitional phrases, although primarily for non-fiction.

Alan, I'm between books at the moment, so there's not much to review. Seabrass and Kdot are helping me wrap up minor changes in acts III and IV of my Galaxy Tales story before I shelve it. I decided it needs a complete rewrite some time in the distant future. I'm currently planning a supernatural thriller series based on the Bible's Apocalypse that I want to work on next. It could be up to 3 months away before I'm ready with the first chapter.

Thank you, both.
Dirk

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Dirk,

I've never been a big fan of supernatural; but when you start posting again, I'll check it out. Going back to the link I provided in my earlier post, the article, as you note, is more oriented to bloggers/non-fiction authors, but there's a lot there for novelists to consider as well.

You have some excellent folks helping you tidy up Galaxy Tales - good choices and great of them to help! Best to you,

Alan

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

Deck, there's a big difference between a loud pop breaking the air and an explosion rocking the prison.

With all due respect, I think you missed my point. As I said, my attempted rewrite is far from perfect. Nevertheless, an individual's experience of an event can be expressed in a variety of ways. I was near an explosion once and perceived it exactly as a loud POP!  Another person might describe it differently. My example was only intended to demonstrate the technique of expressing a transition via character perception rather than narrative summary. The phrase "an explosion rocked..." has been used a million times in a million books. I merely suggest that exploring a different approach to this problem may result in more engaging prose. But you know best for your own work. Just trying to help.

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BTW: Here's an article that takes a more  critical look at the virtues of transitional phrases.

https://kidlit.com/2018/03/05/avoiding- … s-writing/

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I would think using transitional phrase would be akin to using the oft maligned "was". It's not the use, rather the overuse which becomes the problem. Let's face it, we live and talk in a world where the transitional phrase evolved as part of our language. It serves a purpose like everything else, but, of course can also become a crutch like "was" when taken for granted. If the transitional phrase is limited, it will become as invisible as "said" being used as a speaker tag.

There are lots of ways to mix things up to avoid the transitional phrase to limit its use much as rewording sentences to restrict the use of "was" to those times where nothing will do the job as well. As mentioned, dialogue can be a great way to rearrange things, but that too can be rearranged to showcase things differently. For example, Deck's version could perhaps  be changed slightly to more align with your vision:

***

"... solely in the hands of___" The shock wave rocked Joseph on his feet. "What the hell was that," he yelled as prisoners fled from their cells.
He thought he heard "Explosion!" through the wailing siren and ringing in his ears.


***
Or such.

No one way to make everyone happy, just try various alternatives until You are satisfied with the words read aloud. As with anything, a pinch of salt is generally better than a shaker full. And a little pepper may be even better. Just my opinion. Take care. Vern

11 (edited by Norm d'Plume 2018-05-27 00:22:41)

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Thanks again, all. I appreciate the advice.

12 (edited by Norm d'Plume 2018-05-27 01:26:35)

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Hmm. Three of my common transition phrases are way at the top of the cliche list of another online article: all of a sudden, just then, and suddenly. Fortunately, I've known for quite some time that many of the writers I review don't use them, so they should be easy to spot.

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I've been told more than once by reviewers to lose words like "Just then"

Guilty as charged, so I guess I should weigh in.
Disclaimer: I overuse "just", "then", and "so". I've trained myself to spot them on 2nd drafts.

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane..."
Just then, an explosion rocked the prison

As Deckland says, this "Just then" replaces the actual shortcut word "Coincidentally". It allows two dissimilar events to occur without build up. This is valid in rare or high-stakes situations. Used elsewhere, it's a shortcut.

Using it in an early draft is great. Now you can search it. Every time you find it, ping yourself with another -coincidence-

I recently caught myself having characters walk in on conversations at opportune moments: "... as if summoned, X rounded the corner...". Next draft, I'll be able to solve that by introducing X to the scene earlier, or mention X's imminent arrival at the start of Y's conversation.

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane! They just put the fate of humanity solely in the hands of Emperor Bastardus!”
An explosion rocked the prison. Everyone ran out of their cells and looked for the source. A siren began to wail.

I don't have a suggestion for this one. Sometimes, "Just then" is really the perfect phrase. If this was Star Trek, it would be:

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane! They just put the fate of humanity solely in the hands of Emperor Bastardus!”
[Cut scene to unrelated holodeck substory. Picard at a sleazy bar while Data learns to tell standup. Data gains some new insight or reveals a character growth.]
An explosion rocked the holodeck and the images flickered. Picard ran out and looked for the source. A siren began to wail.

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I have no argument against the use of 'just then' or any other phrase in particular. It's when the phrase catches the reader's attention enough to stop the flow of the story that it's wrong. That's what our reviewers and beta readers are for--to let us know when something doesn't sit well.

It's especially grating when a writer uses a phrase like 'the following Monday' or 'It was two weeks later' instead of using action to show that time had elapsed. 'She worried all weekend, wondering if she would get the job.' or 'He spent days organizing and planning to make sure everything was in order for the big event.' When the action continues, the reader understands how much time has gone by.

Sometimes using those phrases seems no more literary than writing January 1, January 2, January 3, etc., although I see examples of that, as well.  That works when the story is a countdown of some type. When I come across days, times, or other measures of time posted as headings in a story, I tend to ignore them, which I think foils the author's intent.

But maybe that's just me.

15 (edited by dagny 2018-05-27 20:13:13)

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Norm,
I agree with JP.

Because of the explosion, I assume you're writing a syfy thriller. Thrillers need to thrill, right? Experiencing the unexpected is thrilling.

'Just then...' telegraphs that something is going to happen. Not so thrilling if you expect something to happen.

I read a lot of John Sandford. He's my favorite mystery/crime novelist. He has a talent for introducing violence into a scene that you do not see coming. For example, in one of his books there's a scene that starts out pretty tame, people sitting down in a living room having coffee and pastries.

One of the characters reaches for a pastry, her favorite kind btw, and before it gets to her mouth she's been shot between the eyes and dies. There's no reason for her being shot, she's not a main character or someone being stalked. She's there to interview victims, and was not the intended target. It also took me into the scene, I shared the surprise and horror of the other characters in the room.

And...perhaps this is the most important thing..I still remember that scene years after reading the novel.

Hope this helps... smile

16 (edited by Dallas Wright 2018-05-27 21:43:35)

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

I've been told more than once by reviewers to lose words like "Just then" when transitioning from one event to another in my story. For example,

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane! They just put the fate of humanity solely in the hands of Emperor Bastardus!”
Just then, an explosion rocked the prison. Everyone ran out of their cells and looked for the source. A siren began to wail.

I'm told a new paragraph is sufficient to serve as the transition, but I disagree. To me, a new paragraph is a continuation of one story event, whereas "Just then" is a more explicit break signalling a new event. Here it is without "Just then":

Joseph terminated the feed. “They’re insane! They just put the fate of humanity solely in the hands of Emperor Bastardus!”
An explosion rocked the prison. Everyone ran out of their cells and looked for the source. A siren began to wail.

How do others handle these transitions?

Thanks
Dirk

“Just then,”  “suddenly,” and “all of a sudden” are crutches for writers who don’t want to bother with putting the effort into coming up with something creative.

Any writer worth her salt could put a think on it and come up with lots of better ways to transition:

A scream rang out as....
The floor shook as the...
Maria clutched my arm as the...
The chandelier shook as the...
A window shattered as...
A brilliant light...
Shrapnel burst through the glass as...
The floor settled beneath his feet...
“Why did you—holy shit!  What the hell was that!”

Just then???  Come on...