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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

We noticed.  smile

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

njc wrote:

We noticed.  smile

I haven't sad LOL

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Pfft to you both.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

I love you guys.

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Norm d'Plume wrote:

Pfft to you both.

Blowing raspberries all over the screen is Amy's thing.
Dig deep, Dirk, and find your true self! wink

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

I just farted.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Classy.  However, Janet and I both have 2 boys each. Farts are part of waking up and daily conversations. Better than Folgers coffee in the morning.

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

Classy.  However, Janet and I both have 2 boys each. Farts are part of waking up and daily conversations. Better than Folgers coffee in the morning.

I have four brothers and will be sharing the above statement with my mother later. lol

-Elisheva

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

amy s wrote:

Classy.  However, Janet and I both have 2 boys each. Farts are part of waking up and daily conversations over dinner usually. Better than Folgers coffee in the morning.

Fixed just a little oversight! wink tongue

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

From which we may learn that Norm D' is a little boy ... cool

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Let me get serious for a moment.  I suspect I have a couple of years on Amy, and that I'm at least twice EF's age (and maybe three times; I can't tell).  Point is ...

I've had more years to learn vocabulary, to pick up idioms, and generally learn language.  We learn most of our language in our first ten or twelve years, but that's no reason to stop learning.  Once out of formal education, reading is our primary arena for learning, and the best thing is to read a wide variety of authors.  I think I first saw soi-disant in Stranger in a Strange Land.  I'm not sure where I learned to invert 'if he ever' into 'if ever he'.  Maybe it was in Lerner&Lowe's If Ever I Would Leave You, a song, but I probably regarded that as poetry and did not consider it for use until I saw it somewhere else--and that somewhere might have been in an essay.

Good essayists and good history writers are good language teachers.  Note that many essays are position papers on editorials.   You don't have to agree with either Thomas Friedman or Victor Davis Hanson to learn from their writing.  And in fiction, Dorothy Sayers is an education in herself.

With rare exceptions, you won't get these lessons from movies, television, and radio.

I'm blessed with better-than-average language skills: about 70th %ile on the GRE so many years ago.  I suspect this is true of everyone here.  These days I don't read enough--but I do continue to read.  I just wolfed down Susan Cooper's The Dark is Rising a few weeks ago--the entire set.  And of course, I read a fair amount of material from authors here.  Even as I argue for someone to move to a plainer, more economical style, I may be learning elegant expression for those times when I need it.

To quote the author of How to Write 240 WPM in Pitman Shortand, you can do it too!

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

njc wrote:

Let me get serious for a moment.  I suspect I have a couple of years on Amy, and that I'm at least twice EF's age (and maybe three times; I can't tell).

I am just a couple of weeks away from my 23rd birthday. I know I'm a newblet in life as well as writing. smile

Once I get moved into my new apartment and visit some doctors (eep!), I'm hoping to take some literature classes, as well as some other subjects. Eventually, I'll understand all your references, njc. wink

-Elisheva

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

He  has a lot to teach, but every now and then he gets lost in understanding the prose about ringing bells and needs an interpreter. There's a place for you, Elisheva.

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

My b'day is also a couple of weeks away! *fist bump* It'll be my 21st 21st birthday, and most of the time, I need to re-read most of njc's references to make sense of it, so (1) you're not alone, (2) it's not because of your age, it's a combination of things and (3) that'd teach me reading Romance novels instead of educational stuff. smile

njc wrote:

I'm blessed with better-than-average language skills: about 70th %ile on the GRE so many years ago. I suspect this is true of everyone here.

I'm surrounded by thesauruses or thesauri and dictionaries at all times. English being, theoretically, my 2nd language - I have so much in common with Canadians, it's not even funny hehehehe (side-note: I can't really claim this for at least the last 15 years at all, but sometimes it rears its head, and that's my excuse, and I'm planning to stick with it).

But I have the same problem as njc, I would love to read more, but since deciding I'm going to write a book or three, I don't find time for reading too often, and when I do, I just want to switch off, not learn. Since 'meeting' njc, it has picked up again somewhat. He has a lot of references, and he remembers ALL of them!

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

I only remember the ones I remember.  There are so  any more I wish I remember.  I'm embarrassed sometimes over going back to the same references again and again.

And I hope that everyone gets their own set of Wonderful Exemplars.  Then we can share them with each other.  Hey, learning pushes us sometimes, but it's great.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Oh, about twenty years ago, my boss at work called me in.  It seemed that some of my ESL colleagues had complained that I used too many big words.  I said, "Am I being accused of erudition?"

Boss said, "I guess so."

Then there was the time that we got word of a new policy about how we were to develop our software.  It was going to force me to be in the lab in the wee hours every day (it got me a lot of unneccessary OT) and I told my colleagues that "This is going to play merry hob with our development schedule."

For the next two weeks, the phrase "play merry hob" got slipped at least once into every conversation we had.  (Pick your emoticon here.)

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

njc wrote:

I used too many big words.

You do, but it's nothing to complain about. (I haven't analysed the bias of being on a writer's site fully before posting this comment).

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Pony up, New Jersey.  How old are you?

K?  (the mysterious man who releases a fact each month in the hope that someone will show up at his doorstep and freak him out)

To answer the same question as I'm asking, I am also 21. I've been 21 almost 29 times, in fact.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Old enough that I have to do the calculation!  Just a few weeks older than Sputnik 1, a child of the Atomic Age.

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

All we need is K to be in his thirties, and we have all the decades covered, sort of-ish.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

I'll have to read the new posting at least two more times before commenting on it.  I'm a very visual creature and I'll need that to interpret it.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Just so that I know you saw it.

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

I put a really short story about Collin onto the site called, "Translation".  It's only 300 words. I've been having a hard time coming up with 1000 word teaching moments, but little things keep popping up. Figured that they are material too and could be inserted between the longer material. What do you guys think of it?

Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Cute! All your stories about Collin are pretty neat, I think. smile

-Elisheva

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Thank you. I think your dragons are pretty cool too. I'm kinda jealous, in fact. You're dragons don't nag me for a Wii U and throw a temper tantrum in the store because we aren't walking out with the gaming system:-)