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William Safire was known to write "Meet my pet, Peeve."  I guess it was rubbing his ankles, too.

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In the next few days, I plan to catch up on a passel of reviews and do some badly needed fixes on early chapters.

After that, I have two big things to work on: Erevain's chapters, which are changing quite a bit, and the long-story arc, which you won't see immediately.  Both Merran and Jamen will get some time studying with Kirsey too: Merran because she can use it and Jamen ... well, Kirsey will find some latent talents there.  But there's a lot to do on the way.

I still have to finish the head-amp in the hope of selling the spare turntable, I've got two computers to get running again, and the other work will be never-ending.

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Merran can deal with bedbugs.  She's a sorcerer.

She and Jamen can't deal with notoriety, although they'll get some as they go along.

She and Jamen are skipping town anyway, fast.  Nor do they look like the pair in question.  And the little bit of story checks out, sort of.

What Merran cannot do, unlike Amy_s's Katerin, is reweave her clothing with the wave of a wand.

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KHippolite wrote:

Hah, well surely you see why I wasn't running parallel to charactrer logic.

I picture myself getting off the bus with a date... a couple pssts at me from an alley. "Hey guys, wanna swap clothes?" "Why?" "We commited a minor felony in ours and the cops might be looking for us"

Here's my thought process before turning to my date and saying "hell yes!"
1) This is pretty shady to start with.
2) I don't even know these people. What if they have bedbugs riding them.
3) Do I want attention from the cops?
4) If they're willing to deceive the cops, they must also be willing to deceive me as to the nature of the crime

If the answer to all these questions is "don't care" then I will probably agree. If they fail any single one of these, I turn tail and run.

That anyone else might think differently would fascinate me

Agree wholeheartedly. Except:

5) Same clothes, different faces and other physical attributes (that should count for something?) "Surely mr. Policeman, it wasn't me, it's just a coincidinc (sic) that we are wearing the same clothes. We were waayyyy over there minding our own business when this hideous crime you are referring to happened."
6) We prefer some minor attention from the cops rather than the attention we're getting now ...

Then again, in fiction, it doesn't have to be possible beyond doubt, just possible even if very unlikely ... To me, it was just waayyy too easy to bump into two people who wanted to change clothes, but I can let it go on the basis it's very unlikely, but possible.

Just my 2 cents.

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njc wrote:

In the next few days, I plan to catch up on a passel of reviews and do some badly needed fixes on early chapters.

After that, I have two big things to work on: Erevain's chapters, which are changing quite a bit, and the long-story arc, which you won't see immediately.  Both Merran and Jamen will get some time studying with Kirsey too: Merran because she can use it and Jamen ... well, Kirsey will find some latent talents there.  But there's a lot to do on the way.

I still have to finish the head-amp in the hope of selling the spare turntable, I've got two computers to get running again, and the other work will be never-ending.

Work. Whoever came up with that idea, needs to be shot. Dead. And then shot again. Dead-er. It keeps on interfering with my writing time and reviews ... and all the other stuff that's way more fun. Anyways, how old are the computers njc? Is it for your use?

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janet reid wrote:
KHippolite wrote:

Hah, well surely you see why I wasn't running parallel to charactrer logic.

I picture myself getting off the bus with a date... a couple pssts at me from an alley. "Hey guys, wanna swap clothes?" "Why?" "We commited a minor felony in ours and the cops might be looking for us"

   ...

Here's my thought process before turning to my date and saying "hell yes!"
1) This is pretty shady to start with.
2) I don't even know these people. What if they have bedbugs riding them.
3) Do I want attention from the cops?
4) If they're willing to deceive the cops, they must also be willing to deceive me as to the nature of the crime

If the answer to all these questions is "don't care" then I will probably agree. If they fail any single one of these, I turn tail and run.

That anyone else might think differently would fascinate me

Agree wholeheartedly. Except:

5) Same clothes, different faces and other physical attributes (that should count for something?) "Surely mr. Policeman, it wasn't me, it's just a coincidinc (sic) that we are wearing the same clothes. We were waayyyy over there minding our own business when this hideous crime you are referring to happened."
6) We prefer some minor attention from the cops rather than the attention we're getting now ...

Then again, in fiction, it doesn't have to be possible beyond doubt, just possible even if very unlikely ... To me, it was just waayyy too easy to bump into two people who wanted to change clothes, but I can let it go on the basis it's very unlikely, but possible.

Just my 2 cents.

In that neighborhood, there might be a dozen couples looking to swap!  But these two either never went to bed or woke early from fear.  Don't assume a 20th-century law enforcement model, either.  Or even a 19th century model.

Merran and Jamen aren't on a date.  They are on a journey, and they are improvising###########making it up as they go along.  Sometimes they'll take risks.

Anyhow, Merran and Jamen are making themselves scarce.  Shank's mare is a Standardbred in this case.

Still about 3 hrs from home.   I'm 3 hrs late because of construction and drivers who don't understand, or don't care, or don't care to understand, how their actions affect thouands of other drivers.

To quote Nero Wolfe, 'Pfui!'

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I'm going to use that sound in my book!

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Credit Rex Stout.  But your ordinary mooks still say 'phooey'.  It's only Kha or Geron who 'pfui', and never on cue.  Or ... maybe Airen or one of Saundon's retinue?

I like the bedbug idea, though.  I may use it sometime.

And, as The Great Schnozz would remind us, co-inky-dinks do happen!  (Evverrybody's got ta get inta de act!)

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Maybe I'll use both. Alda is very undecided sometimes

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Oh, now isn't that a good thought...

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Actually, I was thinking he was talking about NJC's world. He uses the greek symbols to name his worlds. It is unlikely that all discoveries of these worlds were made by the same people. As disparate and arguing as the Sorcery school is, why would they follow such a rigid naming system?

NJC? Care to comment?

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Yes.  I actually explain this in the story.  It was people of one world who first discovered how to move across the sundered worlds, and they gave most of the world names in the style of their own place-names.  I chose Slavic, and in particular Russian, as my prototype.

But there should be a few worlds that are exceptions.

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Bob's World?

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More likely Big Sky and Bitterwater.  Though someone might name pocket worlds after his daughters.  (Or after his hounds.)

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Pinkie poo world

Wiggle butt world

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Read =Albion's Seed= by, I think, David Hackett.  Before the 19th century in the Appalachians there were places with names like Tickle C*** Branch.

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A sequence from Book 2 is nagging me.  I'll try to commit part of it to paper over the next few days.

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Waiting...!

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Okay, a snippet is up.  The last snippet, as it happens.  Look for two or three before it.

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'cuz that's not the kind of story I'm writing.  Your characters bang around like balls in a pinball machine.  Not for me.

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In snooker the cushions don't spring out and whack the players.

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Say, you didn't review the chapter called =Books for Pengrit=, did you?  What did you think of it?

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This is an ensemble story, and not everyone will come together at once.  Much of the story involves people working with limited information.

Kirsey is a Force.  We'll see his powers; we'll see his limits.  And he's got to get to that library to investigate what he saw.  In the Pike/Kirsey chapter as now outlined, he doesn't know what that vortex is.  But that might not work with the timeline.  Or it might.  His first visit might not provide the answers.  His second, in the scene I've got with Threkesrom, might do it.

In the meantime ...

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I'm still working on Melayne's visit to the Void of Fire.  I'm having a hard time putting my vision in words and covering all the story logic.  (Amy, Melayne has a grave reason to keep Pengrit well-sorceled until Melayne is gone.  Melayne is carrying those Gems.  Okay, Pengrit -shouldn't- be able to sorsee them after Melayne Barricades her, but Melayne is also at risk of becoming a fugitive, and she doesn't want to be seen.)

Once I get that much done, I've got to form it into steady narrative and then clean it up.  I'm working backward from the chapter I last put up.

You'll be seeing world-names in the story as I revise it.

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OK, if Melayne has to sorrel Pengrit because she might reveal the gems that she carries, then I find myself condemning Melayne even more.

Here's the reason. The gems are made out to be important. Melayne hides the gems from the sorcerers on the same path. However, she choses the least competent and weakest of them (Pengrit) to sorcel. She doesn't magic the functioning sorcerers, limit them, bind them, or isolate them in random worlds. She choses a child and runaway to bind, risking that child's life for selfish reasons.

You're going to say that I don't understand how important these gems are. If that is the case, then I want a good and firm reason to justify Melayne's actions. The end of the world as we know it. The death of her only child. Destruction of multiple universes. That justifies binding Pengrit. However, it doesn't justify abandoning her. Giving the kid a sackful of gold, arranging for a family to care for her, taking her along to a trusted friend and having this person teach Pengrit…all of these are actions of a parent and responsible adult. Binding the kid and thinking, 'she can work as a drudge or a sex slave to survive…not my problem. It just matters that she is locked into this nowhere dimension and can't escape. Now I'm safe to carry these gems where they need to go."…this isn't the POV of a hero.

And I see Melayne as a hero. Did I explain it this time?

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True.  She avoids the others.  Pengrit she can't avoid.

In this universe, I don't think 'sex slave' would occur to Melayne.  Maybe it should, maybe not.  (Depends on the World.  Not an issue in, say, Klonziea.)  But 'drudge' isn't so bad, especially compared to  being a felon######rogue sorcerer.

Melayne's a hero, not a palladin sans puer sans reproach.  (Sorry for the spelling.)  She's got to grow into the role, same as her daughter.  They all make mistakes.