Topic: Project R

Laura is shelved. Probably for 5-6 years.

Switching to an antagonist POV

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Why did you shelve it?

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Complicated.

Project L is a basic vampire werewolf story. Not much different from Twilight meets Underworld of any of the other million supernatural love stories before them. Reviewers here are clearly not reading Twilight so I'm getting reviews I can't use effectively.

Issues: . Laine is internally happy. She doesn't brood. She's not selfish or mean, and is coming from "low" to her magic and the millions in the bank locked away for all her life.

Makes sense to post a story I can get more mileage out of. Project R is more of Underworld meets Constantine. The MC is losing everything and will do anything to get it back. There is no formula of boy meets girl or even a hero win. No formula allows me more freedom to onboard suggestions. Better suited for this site.

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Heh ShutterStock (where I buy some cover properties) is sneaky. I bought the 5-image pack. Turns out it has an auto-renew and automatically bought me 5 more images back in March

I logged in while working on another cover and found these extra downloads about to expire. It would have kept rebilling me until I caught it on my statement. Although I check my statement monthly, my "usual billers" such as Google, Amazon etc dont get much scrutiny. I mostly check for large bills and unexpected/unrecognized transactions. They could have snuck another 2-3 through before I found it

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@Rachel: I did some digging into the gender issue.

So scholars generally say angels are androgynous. I dug into why they say so, and it seems to boil down to the bible using a male pronoun, so no one's really too sure if gender really applies to them.

In other words, we don't believe there are female angels simply because the bible never mentions any. I find this assumption rather fascinating to be sure.

Of, so since I have created my own gender problem, I have been careful throughout both Project L and Project R to never cal them "men" and "women" which would be human terns created long after angels existed. For the record, I'm unconcerned with achieving biblical accuracy, but I wonder if scholars have penned themselves into a logical quagmire where if a female angel one day showed up, they may have to ask her to cease to exist.

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Hah so I finally figured out why everyone's weirded out at my male character named "Sara Mindus". I was a little puzzled by this confusion but was prepared to roll with it an choose a new name, until a reviewer clarified that Mindus looks like a last name. Sara's a prefix not unlike "ibn" lol

I had no idea people were reading it as "sarah" or similar. Holy tunnel vision!

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Sara Selg is the name of one of my reviewers.

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Slugging my way through [A r c h a n g e l s K i s s] since that writer not only a best seller, but widely accepted as a leader of the pack in UF/Angel series.

Now, this is a Book II and best seller writers tend to know where their bread is buttered, so I walked in knowing ahead of time I was going to get the same formula as the other... but the plot has been surprisingly thin. I'm about 200 pages in, and it's all burning gazes and dour faces. I checked goodreads -- always good for fun. Sure enough people are like "This entire book is sex and dismembered limbs"

I'd go one step further and add "...and angry people". So much anger in there... like the head of the vampire pack was turned against his will,  so he has a pretty decent reason to be dour. But the six minor characters who work with him are all taciturn grumblers fond of steely gazes and stony silences. And these are the good guys. The villains are also angry mofos with chips on their shoulders, and I can only imagine when they're not on camera, they're eating stones or sleeping on thumbtacks.

There's a lesson for me in there somewhere because I also have a lot of angry characters. Looks like Patty's getting a promotion to a more prominent role

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UF?

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Urban Fantasy

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Hmmm going back to the well for another shot for J3nna cover. Third time's the charm?

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I suggest she wear a blue outfit. tongue

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You aren't the only one thinking there should be blue in her outfit... the only problem is I haven't been able to make it work against a primarily green background. Also the specific scene in the story portrayed on the cover, she's wearing black and white (I'm a big fan of that energy rush when the cover-scene unfolds in the story).

I think someone also suggested Blue lettering

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Weird uptick in kindle sales in the past 4 weeks. I haven't released anything new since August, so it's not like I can say it's anything I did. Maybe the economy finally waking up from Covid?

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Even Dune took time to gather a following. Do you do any book signings?

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Hah, book signings would be hard, given the assumption I'm a woman. But even if I did any, I still haven't done one to explain the weird new sales

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Getting close to the end of R2. As I mentioned in my latest review, I really have no idea where the story is going. It's been mostly action-oriented chapters in various settings that don't connect well for me. I'm not sure how much of this is part of the genre and involves stuff I should already know as background.

To me it's a lot like a new TV show so far, with many apparently unrelated episodes, generally set in the same universe and involving some of the same characters, but you don't really know where anything is going for a season or two because the writers/showrunners often themselves don't know. The importance of non-main characters is also not knowable for a time until they reappear, if ever.

I read the content summaries of all four R books so far and reread the one for L. Nowhere is there a real summary of what the story (as a whole) is about. The third post in this thread is as close as you've come to a description, which is most noteworthy for saying your not following a formula. Since you're going to have to write a real blurb eventually, why not take a crack at it and drop it into the content summary of book one?

Naturally, I'll keep reading, but it would be nice to have a better idea of what to expect so that I can see a progression in the plot and characters, and not wonder if the latest series of events have any lasting impact on the story as a whole.

Hope this helps.
Dirk

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Getting close to the end of R2. As I mentioned in my latest review, I really have no idea where the story is going. It's been mostly action-oriented chapters in various settings that don't connect well for me. I'm not sure how much of this is part of the genre and involves stuff I should already know as background.

To me it's a lot like a new TV show so far, with many apparently unrelated episodes, generally set in the same universe and involving some of the same characters, but you don't really know where anything is going for a season or two because the writers/showrunners often themselves don't know. The importance of non-main characters is also not knowable for a time until they reappear, if ever.

Yep, R2 is definitely the weakest of the five, mostly because the entire thing is an extended introduction to her initial state. In a normal story, you'd expect the intro to the character's home then the adventure to the first mission. In some ways, I've gone backwards. The unpredictability doesn't do me any favours.

Fionneche, in particular, is a huge problem because her story arcs fizzle in R3. So she teases the eye by seeming important but ultimately is not. This was an unintentional consequence of the MC being a stronger presence than she looked in the outline. I foresee demoting Fionneche to "5th business" next draft.

I read the content summaries of all four R books so far and reread the one for L. Nowhere is there a real summary of what the story (as a whole) is about. The third post in this thread is as close as you've come to a description, which is most noteworthy for saying your not following a formula. Since you're going to have to write a real blurb eventually, why not take a crack at it and drop it into the content summary of book one?

I checked the posts you mention, and can see the lack of clarity. Project R is a fallen angel story.

a blurb might wrote:

They took everything. My friends, my memories, my wings-- even my mother. But I have come to fight back. From the raw streets of one of Earth's toughest cities, I shall rise to vanquish evil. The only question is: once the dust settles will I have a home to return to?

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Also, Rabbit Girl from R4 is on the way out the door. When I penned the outline, she seemed a logical extension of the beastlands... but felines are so strong in R3 that I think I'll streamline the leporids out completely. Elm can be from Trag's rival pride (not that Trag has a pride but I can change that too).

The harpies are out. I was checking other stories (eg the competition) and found them too common. I'll use "crower" instead.

Sirens are headed out. Also too common. I like their footprint on the story, so they can turn into mermaids (assuming mermaids can attain human form) which will put them in the class of water demon which aligns that spectrum of the world. Or I could make them selkies, which would be awesome but would eat a lot of page space

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Kdot wrote:
a blurb might wrote:

They took everything. My friends, my memories, my wings-- even my mother. But I have come to fight back. From the raw streets of one of Earth's toughest cities, I shall rise to vanquish evil. The only question is: once the dust settles will I have a home to return to?

I like it. Thanks.
Dirk

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It's probably too much to change at this point, but inverting the introduction to start with home, followed by adventure, would probably help make it a more traditional story. Currently, things definitely seem to come out of order. You could set up her fallen status, her mother's death, her family, and the losses she's suffered up front, then fill in missing details as the story unfolds. It avoids a lengthy break for character development once the action gets going. That doesn't stop you from having a short action scene at the start. I use that in Galaxy Tales and Saving Connor to hook the reader long enough to get through the slower MC introductions.

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Oof!

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Oh hey... I'm back online. Wow. Laurie's been scrubbed from existence

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Kdot wrote:

Oh hey... I'm back online. Wow. Laurie's been scrubbed from existence

I'm randomly back to work on the backup site. I deeply regret not getting to that sooner sad