jack the knife wrote:

I reviewed your original Chapter 1, but you apparently deleted it, along with the reviews it garnered. I never received a response from you regarding my review, even though you used some of my suggestions in the rewrite. If you want to attract and keep readers for your story, this is not the way to do it.

While whinging will endear you to all...

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vern wrote:

A bit of a contrarian, I suppose, but in my opinion, the best book on writing you can read is the book you write on whatever subject you are passionate about -- novel or non-fiction doesn't matter. If you write the book you want to write in your words, then take sage advice from those you trust to tweak it as need may be, then you have just graduated from the best creative writing course there in the known universe. Might be a best seller or might be less than well received by the public at large; it is still yours and the personal goal will be met regardless of the monetary finish line. Just the way I see it. Take care. Vern

aka “recipe for inertia”

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jack the knife wrote:

Again, my caveat: When gurus write these how-to books concerning novels, you should research their own history of writing - novels. Or memoirs, or whatever, besides how-to books. Donald Maass, for example, should stick to books about being a successful literary agent, and stay away from books that supposedly teach one how to write a successful novel.

I agree with you that it always helps to research the history of the writing of those giving advice.

For example, if Donald Maass’ books had these stats, you’d definitely want to be wary of his advice...
Published November, 2016
16 Reviews
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,092,546 Paid in Kindle Store

But you might want to try this book by Donald Maass if you are trying to become a successful author:
https://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Craft- … B001JASU0W
Written December, 2016
107 Reviews
4.8/5 rating
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #33,934 Paid in Kindle Store

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https://www.amazon.com/Memoir-Writing-D … or+dummies

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

Malcom, where's your portfolio? Tick tock. :-)

“Malcolm”
You were so close, Nom. ;-)
Sorry, occupational hazard.  This is an editing site ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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“turbulence”
Sorry, occupational hazard.  This is an editing site ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Norm d'Plume wrote:

I'm in the middle of planning a Christian trilogy, and I would like a devout Catholic teenager to listen to Battle Hymn of the Republic by Lee Greenwood. What are the rules in a case like that? Do I need the artist's permission? The song is in the public domain. My reason for wanting to name this particular singer is to promote his version of the song. He sings the historical Civil War lyrics, not the modern version.

Thanks.
Dirk

Type:  ”Can I reference a real song artist in a work of fiction” into Google.  You’ll get your answer in less time than it took to write your post.  The Internet.  It’s magic.
The answer to your question has been asked and answered a million times—by experts.

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Reach out to Andrew Hixson.

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lol

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wow

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vern wrote:
Malcom Reynolds wrote:
vern wrote:

So, the discussion is now where it belongs imo; whether "roar" is appropriate or not within the sentence. This is what imo the reviewer and/or author should be asking as opposed to an obscure (for most folks) rule which in essence would add little if anything to the description in this specific case though that assertion may not be true for all sentences with similar structure.

We can have different opinions of what exactly defines a "roar" and if a particular definition is what the author is trying to present to the reader. It is all good and from this perspective, there is no right or wrong, merely what is in the eye of the beholder. The author would/should make that final calculation after considering the various angles from reviewers. Quite interesting me thinks. Take care. Vern

“Agree!” the parakeet roared.

Until it was hoarse and could roar no more. Take care. Vern

“Ooh! Ooh!” the orangutan tweeted.

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vern wrote:

So, the discussion is now where it belongs imo; whether "roar" is appropriate or not within the sentence. This is what imo the reviewer and/or author should be asking as opposed to an obscure (for most folks) rule which in essence would add little if anything to the description in this specific case though that assertion may not be true for all sentences with similar structure.

We can have different opinions of what exactly defines a "roar" and if a particular definition is what the author is trying to present to the reader. It is all good and from this perspective, there is no right or wrong, merely what is in the eye of the beholder. The author would/should make that final calculation after considering the various angles from reviewers. Quite interesting me thinks. Take care. Vern

“Agree!” the parakeet roared.

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Kdot wrote:
Malcom Reynolds wrote:

So, I put the question out:  would a good writer, after actually hearing the sounds of a cheetah, describe their sound as a “roar”?

Hmm... Charles Dickens spoke of the waters of Niagara as a roar. Not sure he meant feline noises, and equally unsure I can prove he was any good at his craft.

It’s very likely Dickens clearly understood the definition of roar:

—verb (used without object)

to utter a loud, deep cry or howl, as in excitement, distress, or anger.
to laugh loudly or boisterously: to roar at a joke.
to make a loud sound or din, as thunder, cannon, waves, or wind.
to function or move with a loud, deep sound, as a vehicle: The automobile roared away.
to make a loud noise in breathing, as a horse.
—verb (used with object)

to utter or express in a roar: to roar denials.
to bring, put, make, etc., by roaring: to roar oneself hoarse.
—noun

a loud, deep cry or howl, as of an animal or a person: the roar of a lion.
a loud, confused, constant noise or sound; din; clamor: the roar of the surf; the roar of lively conversation from the crowded party.
a loud outburst: a roar of laughter; a roar of approval from the audience.
—Related forms

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Kdot wrote:

Amazon forums will tell you it's a no-no, and "padded" only applies to creature with paws. Would you allow padded to be applied to humans?

I might reach out beyond “Amazon Discussion Boards” for writing advice.  That’s kind of like limiting your news to “The Onion”

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Kdot wrote:

Cheetahs make a weird snarl sound. If I read "roar of a cheetah", it's exactly this sound I would picture. Same with an elephant... "roar of an elephant" would give me images of an elephant making a loud elephant noise (eg not a lion noise). Third example: Katy Perry saying "hear me roar"... well humans aren't good at that activity but I can still visualize it.

I suppose I'm asking if the quote in OP was presented in a symbolic nature or factual?

A good writer aims for precision in descriptions.  A good writer does research when creating descriptions.  Following are representative sounds of a cheetah:
https://youtu.be/E6Qh3VTmtxU
https://youtu.be/wW-FJrSjNMg
https://youtu.be/f29XHnPHKj8
So, I put the question out:  would a good writer, after actually hearing the sounds of a cheetah, describe their sound as a “roar”?