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(8 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

DD - Absolutely. If the 'real' cop is trying to seek help, even from a 'wanna be' he might use any means UNLESS he's sharing info that would jeopardize the investigation.

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(8 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

DD - That is plausible and realistic. In your original question you didn't mention the 'detective' was actually a private investigator instead of a fellow cop. For us cop types there's all the difference in the world. We have several names 'them'; i.e. 'wanna be' and 'rent-a-cop', etc., but we don't consider them much more than a pain in the ass. And, when you're dealing with your PI, remember he doesn't have any more authority then the citizen on the street.

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(8 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

DD - JP and RM are right on. This kind of situation would be so situation specific there is no way to provide a 'catch-all' answer. The possible scenarios leading up to making a decision are endless. If you intend to include something in a story that creates the moment of 'decision', and you want the officer to disarm the detective, make sure you have establish some plausible rationale.

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(2 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

My bad. Thanks much for noticing I posted the same chapter under two different numbers. You have once again proven you're a genius.

I have no idea what thread to post this under so I'm making it a new 'stand alone' post.

Sol - I read about the way Review points are awarded and the mysterious 'word density' formula. But I have to ask about a couple of chapters I just posted. Chapter 14 contained 1834 words (per Word) and paid 1.14 points.  Chapter 15 contained 1504 words (330 fewer words) and paid the same 1.14 points. Seems that would take more Voodoo math than I can understand. Any insight?

Reflecting on my opening sentence, two things: we now have five pages of threads with little or no organization by topic. Me posting a new thread is adding to the 'slush pile'. Is there any way to corral what appears to be a runaway situation?
If I wanted to make an effort to post a question for you in an older related thread, and chose one from page 5, what are the odds you'd see it?

Suggestion:
In the following example: Lovell County A Detective Virgil Aslin Story, Chapter 16, ... Would it be possible to create some way to denote to readers that the work is complete, and not simply another chapter has been posted?

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(8 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

John and R.M. Hello and welcome. John, I'll be happy to provide any help I can. R.M., sounds like you may be the source of a lot of experience and knowledge. Welcome aboard both of you.
Allen L

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(2 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

This may be a tempest in a teapot, but thought it worth mentioning.

When I first go to the Home page and hit 'log in' I get the drop down. I begin my log on and it auto fills, but I have to manually type in my password. This may be because of my browser setting and that's OK.

However, on the home page if I go to the bottom and click on one of the subjects (Strongest Start 2015, etc) BEFORE logging in, I get a screen that has my log on and password already filled in, asking me to join the site. Apparently those pages are recognizing my computer. To escape the page I click on TNBW in the upper left header which takes me back to the moon page. Then when I click on Log In the drop down is already completed. All I have to do is click on 'sign in'.

If having to manually type in my password to gain access to the site is a security measure, then what I described seems to be by-passing it.
Allen

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(3 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

J P - You do ask interesting questions. I worked a case where the suspect was identified, but he never went to trial for the murder. If not being ID'd is what you mean, then I don't know. If never being tried for it counts, then remind me in a month or so after I've posted my next story and I'll tell you about it.
Allen

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(8 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

Amy - You are correct in your observations. Three things jump out.

One: Efforts are made to get all the info as fast as possible. When I was in CID (Criminal Investigation Div) we worked with the theory that if an arrest, or at least ID'ing the suspect did not occur within 2 days, odds were it would not happen. This was/is widespread among investigators because it has proven to be true. There were exceptions, but not often. This approach/theory is the basis of the TV show 48 Hours, which came about as a result of that reality.

Two: Gang related, and unfortunately all ghetto crimes, are generally viewed as much more difficult. Years of history have proven that victims in this socioeconomic group are not inclined to divulge all the details or fully cooperate with police. Reasons; will get revenge themselves, general dislike or distrust of the police, and/or fear of retaliation. Because of decades of this attitudinal conditioning officers tend to react and deal with these victims in a like manner.

Three: The vast majority of victims know their assailant. The exception is the victim of random street violence, which is a growing segment.

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(8 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

j p - Long answer to a short question. As a general rule, that is a TV and movie thing. It sounds good but isn't really practical. On most major crimes (shooting, robbery, assault) only one or two uniformed officers respond in the beginning, depending on the size of the department and availability. They have to do several things seemingly all at once; render aid, determine the safety of the location (is it still dangerous), call for backup and ambulance, then seek suspect info from the victim (if he's alive and/or can talk).

If suspect info and/or vehicle info is available, the uniformed officer will broadcast it over the radio (as an aside, we were taught to broadcast vehicle info using the acronym CYMBAL - color, year, make, body style, and license)

Usually a uniform supervisor will then respond and he/she will make the determination to call for an investigative unit and crime scene personnel. Normally an investigative officer arrives anywhere from a few minutes to an hour or so later.

If the uniform supervisor is sharp/well trained, and there is a crowd of bystanders, he/she will tell his officers to ask simple stuff like; were you here when this happened, what did you see/hear, do you know the victim, etc. Primarily when this is done by uniformed officers they focus on getting names and contact info so follow-up can be done by the investigators.

Groups of people at a crime scene, especially outdoors, are usually difficult to control and keep rounded up.  There is normally no way a few officers can manage a large group of people and still maintain the integrity of the scene, which is primary. Of course if an eye witness is discovered, they are usually handed off to an investigator immediately.

Kids don't have to have parents present when these kinds of questions are asked. Normally parent presence is required when/if kids are questioned as suspects or if they are very young and are talked to in depth. If a kid is a suspect he/she can be detained, but not questioned in depth. That is normally handled by a Juvenile Officer who is trained and up to speed on all the laws governing juvies.
Allen

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(4 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

I've been slowly adding chapters to my story, "Virgil's Path; Threads of Life and Death in Oklahoma", but I've stopped posting to the Cop
Shop due to the point cost. I just posted the latest chapter to Premium Group for 4.08 points. When I clicked on post to group (Cop Shop), the cost went to over 40 points. This is why you haven't been seeing the new chapter postings on Cop Shop (they are on Premium under Historical Fiction if anyone wants to read it). Am I doing something wrong or is it that costly to post to a private group?
Allen L

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(3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Sol, Thanks and that makes sense. Another question. I just posted a new chapter to my work under the Premium Group. I started to include one of the Connection Groups, but found that the posting cost went from 4.08 to over 40. Is that possible??

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(3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

When selecting something to read I find Genre and Type, same as always. Under 'Type' I find Novel and Book. What's the intended difference?

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(3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I just completed another review and tried it again. Same result- the <...> brackets and everything inside them was missing. No big deal, I'll use some other method to notate what I want to comment on. Apparently what NJC said is true; either that or it could be related to the fact it's raining in Texas at the moment smile
Allen

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(3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

NEW PROBLEM
I wrote a Regular review and copied some text from the story to include in the review. I placed the copied text inside brackets <...> then made my comment. After submitting, I checked and the review was posted at the end of the chapter, BUT, the text inside the brackets was missing so my comment referred to nothing the author could see. I wrote a supplemental regular review, even though I was told I would not get credit for it, and submitted it, BUT it does not show up at the end of the chapter so I have no idea if the author got it. Any idea?

Sol - I still don't seem to be able to make an 'original' response to an 'In Line Review'. There is no box to write a response either above or below the in-line. When I click on 'View Complete Review' I can update or edit my response, but still have no way of making an original response. HELP.

Anyone (including Sol) - On the Premium group site we are now posting threads to the third page. It's not going to be long before the list has grown unmanageable. Is there any way to separate these threads by topic and have some sort of index or directory like on the old site? If a person doesn't remember what thread a question or reply was posted under he might have to read all of them. If it already exists, somebody enlighten me.

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(25 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Sol- Thanks for getting back so soon - The review I have is an In-Line. To view the complete review I have to click on
View Complete Review, when I do that, I can read the whole thing, BUT there is no box before or after the review that allows me to make my original reply. There is a box AFTER the review, but as stated, it is for Updating or Editing my original response, which I can't make.
Allen L

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(25 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

HELP - Two issues, and forgive my lack of whatever. One; I published a new work today (first time using the new site) and the cover was auto generated. That's neat, BUT, due to the length I guess, the last word of the title did not show up on the cover. How can that be fixed?

Second; I received a review and wanted to reply. I found, at the bottom of the review, a place I can write something, BUT it says Edit or Update Your Reply. How do I simply make the original reply. I don't want to Edit or Update anything. Guidance anyone.
Allen L

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(30 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

Glad to be on board. I have been a cop for most of my working life, retired now. My experiences span everything from working the street in uniform, being a detective, moving into supervision then mid and upper level management. My career ended as the Chief Deputy of a Texas sheriff's department in the Dallas-Ft Worth metroplex area. I then started working for the U.S. Dept of Justice and they sent me to Bosnia for five years to train local officers and the international police who were present during the re-building of the infra-structure after the war.

I'm open to questions and more than happy to lend any help I can to anyone needing it. I continue to struggle with writing in a manner that someone will read and enjoy. I've posted and taken down a couple of stories - they stunk! After six months of trying to learn the craft I am about to re-post one of them. It will be under Historical Fiction. The title is Virgil’s Path; Threads of Life and Death in Oklahoma. It's actually a fictionalized autobiography, but there's not really a place for that. Hope someone reads it.
Allen L

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(8 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

When you ask how it started, I think of how I became a cop. It's an interesting story, but the short version is I was laid off from my job but the company had a program that supplemented my state unemployment and I was eligible to draw it for 9 months. So, basically, being in my mid-20's I viewed it as a vacation. The mayor of the small town I lived in asked me one day if I would consider being the city policeman. I'd casually thought about being a cop, so, not really needing the income, I said OK and started to work for $40 per week. As they say, 'the rest is history'. That led to a 25 year career that ended up taking me to Bosnia for five years where I trained their police.

As for when I started trying to write, that was about two years ago. I'm continuing to struggle with that trying to perfect something worth the reader's time. I chose the cop genre because that's what I know.
Allen L

For theatrical releases I'll have to go with the Tommy Lee Jones stuff. His portrayal of Dave Robicheaux in "In the Electric Mist" has to top my list. He's mean as hell and not given to over the top unrealistic theatrical antics. I know you aren't including TV stuff, but I have to admit to using One Adam 12 as a training vehicle in my early days.
Allen L