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(20 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Well I also have severe problems with grammar because I was not taught it due to a UK 'teaching fashion' in the 60's. I believe grammar is important, BUT, it won't make unimaginative writing good, my Mum was a school teacher who proof read for me and corrected everything.  There were times though I had to stand by my writing, I wanted a rhythm to the sentence, an out of field alliteration. Just be honest to what you want the pace and rhythm to be. Look at James Joyce if you really want to free your nodes, after all he didn't do too bad...

I've just had exactly those same words Michelle. THEY NEED TO GO!!!

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(5 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Basic)

You can contact Rowanvale books with 2,000 words at (Attn, Cat Charlton) info@rowanvalesbooks.com they will assess for free from the sample and give you an estimate for proof and copy editing (double checked). I got a quote of around £270- 340 for a 50-70,00 word novel, based on my submission, obviously the better the draft the less work they see being needed.  It won't get you a cheaper deal but you can mention that I sent you there. I am likely to use them, as it is I believe a cost that has to be paid or one won't have a good enough manuscript. Best of luck Duncan Gough.

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(2 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Another question;  do they,are they reading from the point of view of the average TNBW reviewer? Do they want the separated paragraphs and 'review' layout that is normal for workshopping in TNBW?   As I have attempted to say in various ways; though good for review the format is not really like a 'published' format.  The two are read differently, story arcs and hooks are different. Are we who enter, trying for the best, reviewable series of chapters OR are we trying for the best first 3 chapters of a published novel?  I am sorry, but they are not the same thing.  Personally I would like to submit a separate file (.doc or .pdf even .mobi) that was my book submission for the competition - before deadline - and that was it. Dunecan

Well I guess I got told. Cheers guys.

Thanks for your thoughts Dirk.
I guess I'll just do a FIX of my own in the pre chapter blurb to say please review Chapter x if you would like to read up to it then here it all is in one continuous document at 'LINK.' Maybe others will do the same particularly those wanting reviews of a high chapter number. As you say one has limited time often and I'm afraid the thought of ploughing through chapters  I am not reviewing in the site format is very off-putting, it is fine for reviewing but not for a good continuous book read.
I have published a full-colour glossy paperback travel book 'BackRoads of Spain' then converted it for Kindle (and the rest through Smashwords) and last month a Travel Short in full colour for Kindle Select and Print On Demand through Create Space so if anyone has any questions about the process I'll be pleased to answer.

My point is that I have got my first 4 chapters pretty much as good as I want them, when the book is complete it will all go to professional proof/editing anyway. What I need now is reviews of Chapter 5 rather than has happened yet more reviews of the first four.

Thanks for that Dirk.  'Paragraph spacing' - I just mean that in book form the layout would be different in my view, not spaced out not broken up so much and I certainly will have longer chapters. (I figured there were others who also don't want to spend a big slot of time on long chapters so I artificially broke my first two up).
I find going through all the review pages to get through ten chapters a bit of a drag and again doesn't really read like the book.
I tend to do revisions as I go and as a lead in to writing time so for me after a certain point reviews of early chapters when I need the later ones done is a problem, which is where having the early ones available to read but not review would be handy.
But my best wish would be to read the work through perhaps from a .mobi file on my E-reader simulator or whatever or .pdf ss in the link I put in the earlier message. Then choose the Chapters to revue.  Hope that makes my complicated thoughts clearer. D

Sure. 2) e.g. I am looking to review a Chapter 11 in a book, I have not read the first 10, going through them one by one in the review pane is tedious.  I would like to be able to go somewhere the whole 10 chapters are continuous and easy to read through before reviewing Chapter 11. An added plus could be that the layout would be more like the finished product. If you care to go to http://dunecangough.wix.com/back-roads- … gress/c1pz you can see what I mean by clicking on 'Fire in the Blood'.
2a) Currently on site can I make the first 4 chapters not reviewable but still available to read thus promoting reviews of Chapter 5?
Thanks D

Two parts;
1) It seems to me that there is a discrepancy between the generally rather short chapters and heavily paragraph spaced content for review and what the actual book would look like - longer chapters with bigger end hooks and longer story arcs, probably less paragraph separation. I agree to an extent that the way it works now makes reviewing easier and I can see that long chapters may put some reviewers off. SO:-
2) Would it be possible to do one of the following; put an external link to a webpage (for instance an In Progress page) on an Authors website where the whole work can be read in a more 'e-reader' style and presentation?  OR could we have on site a location for the 'whole work' just for reading? I know one can go through chapter by chapter to get to the last one needing reviewing, but its a pain. Do other writers find like I do that a high chapter number does not attract as many reviews? I know I tend to always start at 1 and then may or may not get round to doing anymore, an easy way to read through to Chapter 10 to review 11 would I think work.
2a) Failing any of the above, is it possible to de-activate for review some chapters but leave them for reading?
Thanks in advance for consideration and any thoughts on this. Dunecan

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(22 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Hi Madison,  well done. I'm interested to know if you are doing Print On Demand as well (Create Space)? I recently put a Travel Short on Kindle and did the POD, I was able to do all the layout and file conversions myself but it didn't take that long (and it has a lot of pictures).  I don't really expect to sell many if any POD but it did mean I could order up hard copies at a very low cost that I can either re-sell with 'Author signed' or use for promotion in my local bookstore.  Seems worthwhile to me. Dunecan

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(7 replies, posted in Historical Fiction)

Thanks for your thoughts on it. Because it starts with three consecutive days it felt right originally for the first three chapters to cover a day each as they are pretty intense. They were then about 4-5,000 each.  Currently I found reasonable places to split the first two into four but I don't think the hooks are quite as good.

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(10 replies, posted in Historical Fiction)

Brilliant, yes I'm like that with films and theatre having worked in both.  My wife says all I look at is the lighting and the continuity.

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(7 replies, posted in Historical Fiction)

I put Fire Head in last year or the year before but didn't get anywhere.  I did wonder if it being a teen-age western, (I don't like the term western because it seems to be seen as a rather low form of historical fiction) made any difference as it had got to the last hundred or so from 3500 entries in a Waterstones competition.  Still I'll give it a go with Fire in the Blood.  Only thing is deciding whether to go back to the longer chapters which for a book as opposed to on-line reviewing I think better.

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(10 replies, posted in Historical Fiction)

Hi Ann, your welcome to ask me anything you want when you get to wales.  I often take a spin up there on my motorbike and can take photos of areas of interest and I have found some interesting resources in my research for Dinas Mawddwy. Another movie hate for me is is in the sound dept, whu oh why use incorrect eagle and owl cries in a pathetic attempt to heighten or signal action!

I don't see a prob with people wanting a leg up but I do wonder if it wouldn't be possible to have separate page where all such requests whether for Amazon reviews or grubstaking were (in a 'gallery' ?). Here any rewards for support etc would be stated.
Passed on messages to 'connections' would provide a reasonable start notification but also one could go see what members were getting published etc.
These requests would also not quickly get subsumed somewhere in a forum thread.

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(16 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Thanks Dirk, will do

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I am also heading for publication with book one of a series, I hope on 1st december.  Thing is I am looking hard at what is the most important thing to buy in and that seems to be the editing/proof reading, I have been quoted (from a free check of the first 2,000 words) around £2-300 for a 50-70,000 word novel which seems reasonable to me, so for that I think it's important to do as much nit-picky editing as possible to limit how much they estimate they need to do. I have to admit I can do my own cover and typeset as I already have done so for books self-published on Amazon.  The thing I think will cost most is getting the marketing on social media working cos I probably need to pay for that as I don't know enough and don't want to spend the time I could be writing on it. What are other peoples thoughts on the way forward and its costs?

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(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Yes, good idea.  Also couldn't we go back to new work posted of any genre perhaps the latest 10 or 15 and then by genre afterward. Probably get a wider pool of reviewers and review more widly.

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(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Thanks Dirk, that does make it clear to me.
On a slightly differing note I think having the newly published list categorised by groups rather than as by order of submission of any genre is a bit self-defeating, if you want to only read things in your genre you probably would go that group listing and are quite likely to be told of postings anyway due to connections etc As it is now, one has to make a positive decision to go look at other genres rather than your own which makes it less likely for you to review outside that and vice versa thereby lessening the number of potential new reviewers reading one's work

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(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Well reading through the forum has been very useful, I think I now know why I have had far fewer reviews on the new site.
I was just opening my Chapter selecting it all and pasting in the new edit, though I did change the title to reflect this.
So in fact I need to create a new Chapter 1 from scratch and delete the old?
But does this then mean that I have to pay again for the whole chapter even if I have only made a few tweaks in response to reviews?
Confused am I...

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(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:

Maybe elimination of posting to "groups" is a good idea. Post in Premium only. Forums (aka groups) should be for discussion. JMO, and I don't want to get off topic.

I agree, I find it confusing, the old way where it was a list of various types of writing as they were uploaded meant that when you had time to review you looked through a number of pieces of work/genres and chose the ones you liked and then reviewed, it meant a bigger spread of genres per reviewer probably which meant a wider feedback pattern and the wider the feedback the better as far as I am concerned. I don't want to only be reviewed by writers in my genre, thats preaching to the converted to an extent.

I concur, really great writing I've enjoyed reviewing them this morning.  I'm in 1840's at the moment...

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(7 replies, posted in Historical Fiction)

Aiming to get Fire in the Blood there if I can. I have found a semi-derelict cottage that just fits for 'her' house so am re-writing some of the descriptions to suit, it makes it all feel so much more real, though I had done sketchs and plans of my first imagined one.  A bigger challenge has been designing The Plas mansion as there is no plans or records of its size or appearance. But I am basing it around an extant medieval welsh hall. I shall read soothsayer soon, as it is I shouldn't be here... Ooops get back to WRITING BOY...

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(10 replies, posted in Historical Fiction)

It is a very interesting question and I think a personal one as to where as a writer you draw the line between absolute fact and creative story. I am currently moving a well documented mans life by 10 years so he can come into my story but on the other hand I am trying very hard to find details of housing, road conditions etc in 1841 in Dinas Mawwdwy a (now) small town about 50 miles north of me where my story starts. By the end of this book (Fire in the Blood - working title) Rhianon will be 'married' to an Apache in Arizona. I have done immense research on the Apache and the area but am going to have to use more artistic licence as I cannot yet at least walk the trails myself.  Then again so many things will have changed.  So any one needing info about Wales do ask me.